Whats was the LAST 02 Camaro off the line
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Whats was the LAST 02 Camaro off the line
When St. T closed in Aug 2002, does anyone here know what the last Camaro
sequence number was? What model it was?
Posed the same question to the Bird guys and they don't seeem to know.
sequence number was? What model it was?
Posed the same question to the Bird guys and they don't seeem to know.
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The last Camaro off the line was a Z28 convertible and the last six of the VIN are 172467, pics below of it coming down the line
Here it is in the GM Heritage Collection
Here it is in the GM Heritage Collection
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I have the 25th from the last 02 f body. VIN 172442. From what I've been able to research the last Camaro (like the guy above said) was kept by GM in the heritage center along with the 2nd from last f body which was a red Trans Am convertible. The 2nd to last Camaro and Trans Am were auctioned off for charity. All of the other ones were sold as regular Camaros/Trans Ams. The only way I ever found out about how close my car was to the end of production was because I just happened to see the VIN of the last one and realized how close it was to mine. There's very few if any people other then GM and whoever bought the ones at auction that know how close to the end their car is.
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The last Camaro sold to the public was auctioned at the Kruse ACD Festival auction on Labor Day, 2002 in Auburn, IN. The winner paid $70K-somthing for it. It was a red Z28 t-top. The actual car delivered to the winner was still in final prep on the date of the auction and was delivered to him the following week (f-bod production halted in August, just weeks before). At the auction, they had an identical stand-in red Z28 t-top on the turntable. I have a picture of my wife standing in front of that car.
Not nearly as bad as us Firebird owners.
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I know it may sound gay but I felt bad when I saw the "last built" picture :-( lol
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Z28 nailed it, here is a nice breakdown on this one if you are interested.
http://www.camaroz28.com/2002-camaro...ction-numbers/
http://www.camaroz28.com/2002-camaro...ction-numbers/
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I've always wondered what the VIN # of the sunoco Camaro is (widebody navy blue car with yellow graphics). It was internally referred to by GM's media department as the 2003 Camaro. I've never managed to find the VIN anywhere.
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Cool find!! This is really interesting. The last Camaro (that was advertised as saleable to the public) was the VIN ending in 72461 and this one ends in 72465, so I wonder what the story is there? Maybe the last US saleable Camaro was 61, and the last Canadian was 65? I've never paid attention or had an interest in knowing what was done with the last few cars until today. It's really weird, because I thought the last cars were ALL either white or red. How'd this black one go unnoticed in the pictures from the last day?? I don't have any photos from that day saved that show any black cars. Also, why does it have a Hurst shifter, Camaro SS keychains & dash plaque (uninstalled, but included), SS car cover, and 35th Anniversary deck mat? It is almost as if somebody gave them some leftover items for some odd reason from SLP. I suppose it is more likely that someone purchased these items for the car... but it isn't an SS... so why...? Why install a Hurst shifter on a car that isn't going to be driven? Why buy SS accessories for a car that isn't an SS?
But let me see if I can organize the last few cars into something I/we can digest. I have some other info saved that has confused me for years, so I'll integrate that as well. I'm literally going with the info I've saved over the years and nothing else (other than the classified listing posted above, which is a fantastic missing piece to the puzzle (that I didn't know was a puzzle)). I'd probably be better off doing research on forum posts from 2002, but that would take more time and interest than I can devote.
The VINs of the last three cars correspond to being the 72,465th, 72,466th, and 72,467th f-body cars built for the 2002 model year. In other words, there were a total of 72,467 f-bodies produced for the 2002 model year. So that's how I'm going to order them below.
72461--The last Camaro sold to the public was also supposedly the last Z28 coupe, and was a bright rally red Z28 coupe with black top (and t-tops), ebony leather, chrome wheels, automatic transmission, VIN 2G1FP32G822172461. Came off the line on August 27, 2002 most likely, this car was sold at KRUSE auction in September 2002 for $71,500. It is sometimes incorrectly referred to as the last Camaro, which is confusing, especially since it looks exactly like the last one... other than the fact the last one was a convertible...
72462--I assume this was a Firebird of some kind, but don't know that for a fact
72463--I assume this was a Firebird of some kind, but don't know that for a fact
72464--I assume this was a Firebird of some kind, but don't know that for a fact
72465--The second to last Camaro was a black Z28 convertible with black top, ebony leather, chrome wheels, manual transmission, VIN 2G1FP32G822172465, came off the line on August 27, 2002. This car was a Canadian Camaro with kilometers per hour speedo and such.
72466--The last Firebird was a bright rally red Trans Am convertible with black top, ebony leather, chrome wheels, automatic transmission, VIN 2G1FP32G822172466, came off the line on August 27, 2002. GM has this in their collection as far as I know.
72467--The last Camaro was bright rally red Z28 convertible with black top, ebony leather, chrome wheels, automatic transmission, VIN 2G1FP32G822172467, came off the line on August 27, 2002 at approximately 8:49 am. GM has this in their collection as far as I know.
As far as I know, the last three cars to come off the line were technically 72461, 72466, and then 72467. Why... I don't know. But in photos it's a red Z28 coupe with t-tops followed by a red convertible T/A, followed by a red convertible Z28.
Here's a great photo from that seller's ad: It's a letter from GM of Canada saying (basically) that the black Z28 convertible is the 2nd to last Camaro built and 3rd to last convertible F-body built. Very interesting! I'm going to ask Scott Settlemire if he remembers anything about all this.
But let me see if I can organize the last few cars into something I/we can digest. I have some other info saved that has confused me for years, so I'll integrate that as well. I'm literally going with the info I've saved over the years and nothing else (other than the classified listing posted above, which is a fantastic missing piece to the puzzle (that I didn't know was a puzzle)). I'd probably be better off doing research on forum posts from 2002, but that would take more time and interest than I can devote.
The VINs of the last three cars correspond to being the 72,465th, 72,466th, and 72,467th f-body cars built for the 2002 model year. In other words, there were a total of 72,467 f-bodies produced for the 2002 model year. So that's how I'm going to order them below.
72461--The last Camaro sold to the public was also supposedly the last Z28 coupe, and was a bright rally red Z28 coupe with black top (and t-tops), ebony leather, chrome wheels, automatic transmission, VIN 2G1FP32G822172461. Came off the line on August 27, 2002 most likely, this car was sold at KRUSE auction in September 2002 for $71,500. It is sometimes incorrectly referred to as the last Camaro, which is confusing, especially since it looks exactly like the last one... other than the fact the last one was a convertible...
72462--I assume this was a Firebird of some kind, but don't know that for a fact
72463--I assume this was a Firebird of some kind, but don't know that for a fact
72464--I assume this was a Firebird of some kind, but don't know that for a fact
72465--The second to last Camaro was a black Z28 convertible with black top, ebony leather, chrome wheels, manual transmission, VIN 2G1FP32G822172465, came off the line on August 27, 2002. This car was a Canadian Camaro with kilometers per hour speedo and such.
72466--The last Firebird was a bright rally red Trans Am convertible with black top, ebony leather, chrome wheels, automatic transmission, VIN 2G1FP32G822172466, came off the line on August 27, 2002. GM has this in their collection as far as I know.
72467--The last Camaro was bright rally red Z28 convertible with black top, ebony leather, chrome wheels, automatic transmission, VIN 2G1FP32G822172467, came off the line on August 27, 2002 at approximately 8:49 am. GM has this in their collection as far as I know.
As far as I know, the last three cars to come off the line were technically 72461, 72466, and then 72467. Why... I don't know. But in photos it's a red Z28 coupe with t-tops followed by a red convertible T/A, followed by a red convertible Z28.
Here's a great photo from that seller's ad: It's a letter from GM of Canada saying (basically) that the black Z28 convertible is the 2nd to last Camaro built and 3rd to last convertible F-body built. Very interesting! I'm going to ask Scott Settlemire if he remembers anything about all this.
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I would be curious to know how close to the last my 02 Z was. Door tag indicates production date of 08/02 and VIN is 2G1FP22G722170121. I’ve searched for a few decoders in here, but nothing that seems to have the info I’m looking for like production count. I’m assuming it was decently close to one of the last based on production date. Anyone suggest a way to know for sure?
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I asked Scott Settlemire about it and he said that the body shop at Saint Therese was an open body shop. Which meant that they could assign VIN numbers out of order. So this black one "technically" has the 3rd-to-last VIN, but that does NOT mean it was the 3rd-to-last F-body built. It came off the assembly line before the "last saleable" Camaro. By the VIN it is 3rd to last, yes, but in reality, it was built earlier.
The 3rd-to-last F-body built was, in fact, the red t-top Z28 that was sold at KRUSE auction. So in this case, 72467 was last (red Z28 vert), 72466 was 2nd to last (red TA vert), 72461 was 3rd to last (red Z28 t-top). He also went on to say that the last 2 weeks of production were only V6 and Z28 cars, no SSes.
As far as I know, you can still pay www.compnine.com $5 or something like that to decode your VIN and show all sorts of information. Looks like your car was among the last ~2300 F-bodies built based on the VIN number. The last 2002 F-body was 72467, so just subtract 70121 from it.
I would be curious to know how close to the last my 02 Z was. Door tag indicates production date of 08/02 and VIN is 2G1FP22G722170121. I’ve searched for a few decoders in here, but nothing that seems to have the info I’m looking for like production count. I’m assuming it was decently close to one of the last based on production date. Anyone suggest a way to know for sure?
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FWIW, mine is a black, t-top, ebony, M6 Z28 with all power options. By no means do I believe it to be a rare combo, just mainly curious how many of them were produced that month, and how many of my combo were there.
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Yeah, definitely not a rare combo, but the curiosity of everything intrigues me constantly, so I get why you're wondering as well. I don't know how many were produced each month. There were almost 42,000 Camaros for the 2002 model year. I don't know what month production started, but if we assume they started September 1, 2001 and they ended August 27, 2002... then from September 2001 to August 2002 they must have been making around 3,500 a month. And that's just Camaros. Firebirds were made the same place at the same time. So that's a whole lot of cars. That's approximately 175 Camaros a day if they worked a 5 day work week. That's a LOT.
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Yeah, definitely not a rare combo, but the curiosity of everything intrigues me constantly, so I get why you're wondering as well. I don't know how many were produced each month. There were almost 42,000 Camaros for the 2002 model year. I don't know what month production started, but if we assume they started September 1, 2001 and they ended August 27, 2002... then from September 2001 to August 2002 they must have been making around 3,500 a month. And that's just Camaros. Firebirds were made the same place at the same time. So that's a whole lot of cars. That's approximately 175 Camaros a day if they worked a 5 day work week. That's a LOT.
Thanks for the insight. I really never thought they were producing that many cars back then. By our math, if mine was one of the last 2300 produced, at 175/day on average, that makes its production date somewhere in the last 14 days of production. Pretty close to the end. Cool to get in near the end of the run. We currently own a 67 camaro that my dad bought when he was 18 years old (he’s 59 now) and now I’m curious to track down how close to the beginning his was produced lol.
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