C6 Z06 brakes are on 2nd gen
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C6 Z06 brakes are on 2nd gen
Here's some pics of my new brakes on my 74 CamaroStock C6 Z06 (14 " fr rotors and 13.5 rr).Since the car is Classic White GM with Hugger('69) stripes I decided to paint the calipers and fuel rail covers Hugger as well. I'm using a C5 mast. cylinder and all new 3/16 " lines . The plumbing is almost complete , then slight machining on the master ( 1/16")- it's a little bit too much slop for the pushrod and then it's time to fill/ bleed/ drive. I'll update with more pics of the cars final stance ( got 1" drop blocks for the rear) . I'm going with the C5 Z06 wheels( 18 x 9.5 fr- 18 x 10.5 rr) , high polished with Vredstein tires( 275/35/18 fr 295/35 /18 rr/ .. those have been mounted I'll take pics tomorrow. Again much thanks to many on this board and Tobin at KORE 3 for his brackets , Patience , knowledge.
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Did you have to use the same rotors for both sides in effect making the cooling vanes backwards on one side? I had heard for some reason you have to do that to get the C6 Z06 brakes to work.
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I have a set of those brakes waiting to go on my car too! And they will be painted hugger orange (or close enough to it) before I put them on. Sweet to see them orange on your car. And they are HUGE aren't they?!? Looking good. I have 18" C6 Z06 wheels and will probably still need a small spacer to get the wheel spokes to clear that monster caliper housing. Did you have to do anything fancy to get the rear calipers to bolt up? I have the adapter brackets to get the fronts to work but have not looked into the rears too much yet.
They only make the rotors with the veins in one direction. And their direction does not make that big of a difference (if any) with the brake cooling.
They only make the rotors with the veins in one direction. And their direction does not make that big of a difference (if any) with the brake cooling.
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I have the rear brake bracket from these guys:
http://www.kore3.com/index.php
Nice fellas and they have some nice stuff.
Here's my C6 Z06 fronts mounted on the ATS tall spindles...
http://www.kore3.com/index.php
Nice fellas and they have some nice stuff.
Here's my C6 Z06 fronts mounted on the ATS tall spindles...
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Question is: What did you do for the rear e-brake cable? I've got the C5 brake combo going on my 1970 ElCamino and have yet to install it, but I've heard the parking brake cable routing may be an issue...
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The rotors don't change nor do the calipers ...just like a stock C6 Z06. Even in C5 appl. or LSI THE CALIPERS CHANGE ONLY - you can use the same rotors- no vane change.
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[QUOTE=Hugger Z;8001836]I have a set of those brakes waiting to go on my car too! And they will be painted hugger orange (or close enough to it) before I put them on. Sweet to see them orange on your car. And they are HUGE aren't they?!? Looking good. I have 18" C6 Z06 wheels and will probably still need a small spacer to get the wheel spokes to clear that monster caliper housing. Did you have to do anything fancy to get the rear calipers to bolt up? I have the adapter brackets to get the fronts to work but have not looked into the rears too much yet.
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I used the KORE 3( (800) 357-5467 ask for Tobin ...tell him Nick sent ya) -rear bracket - beautifully simple...however I'm not running an E brake. Just take off approx. 1/8 " off your axle flange( I left mine on) the rotor hat will slide right over your axle flange-if you have a 2nd Gen
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I used the KORE 3( (800) 357-5467 ask for Tobin ...tell him Nick sent ya) -rear bracket - beautifully simple...however I'm not running an E brake. Just take off approx. 1/8 " off your axle flange( I left mine on) the rotor hat will slide right over your axle flange-if you have a 2nd Gen
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Originally Posted by NX74LS6
however I'm not running an E brake.
Somebody mentioned earlier the fact that both left and right rotors are the same. That is correct. So in on one side the vanes actually work the way they should, and on the other side they're backwards. I'm sure during development, GM tested this, and I'd bet that under most conditions braking performance isn't compromised by too much. If you're racing, you probably won't want drilled rotors anyway, so check out RacingBrake. They've got 2 pc C6 ZO6 rotors available, I think in slotted or drilled, with straight vanes that cool correctly regardless of rotation direction. They also weigh a bunch less since the "hat" is made of aluminum. Stock C6 ZO6 rotors weigh like 27 lbs, that's alot of rotating / sprung weight, and alot of rotational inertia.
Nice setup though....
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Here's some pics of my new brakes on my 74 CamaroStock C6 Z06 (14 " fr rotors and 13.5 rr).Since the car is Classic White GM with Hugger('69) stripes I decided to paint the calipers and fuel rail covers Hugger as well. I'm using a C5 mast. cylinder and all new 3/16 " lines . The plumbing is almost complete , then slight machining on the master ( 1/16")- it's a little bit too much slop for the pushrod and then it's time to fill/ bleed/ drive. I'll update with more pics of the cars final stance ( got 1" drop blocks for the rear) . I'm going with the C5 Z06 wheels( 18 x 9.5 fr- 18 x 10.5 rr) , high polished with Vredstein tires( 275/35/18 fr 295/35 /18 rr/ .. those have been mounted I'll take pics tomorrow. Again much thanks to many on this board and Tobin at KORE 3 for his brackets , Patience , knowledge.
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Here's some pics of my new brakes on my 74 CamaroStock C6 Z06 (14 " fr rotors and 13.5 rr).Since the car is Classic White GM with Hugger('69) stripes I decided to paint the calipers and fuel rail covers Hugger as well. I'm using a C5 mast. cylinder and all new 3/16 " lines . The plumbing is almost complete , then slight machining on the master ( 1/16")- it's a little bit too much slop for the pushrod and then it's time to fill/ bleed/ drive. I'll update with more pics of the cars final stance ( got 1" drop blocks for the rear) . I'm going with the C5 Z06 wheels( 18 x 9.5 fr- 18 x 10.5 rr) , high polished with Vredstein tires( 275/35/18 fr 295/35 /18 rr/ .. those have been mounted I'll take pics tomorrow. Again much thanks to many on this board and Tobin at KORE 3 for his brackets , Patience , knowledge.
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Also keep in mind, if you guys retain the c-clip rear axles, you will have wicked pad knock back if you run the C6 Z06 fixed rear calipers. Remember, a Vette has bolt in hubs, so the axles don't move. With c-clip rear axles you have a good amount of axle movement when going around corners. For this reason, I prefer floating rear calipers with c-clip axles, and I run LS1 4th gen f-body brakes on my 70 GTO with the C6 Z06 fronts on ATS spindles.
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Also keep in mind, if you guys retain the c-clip rear axles, you will have wicked pad knock back if you run the C6 Z06 fixed rear calipers. Remember, a Vette has bolt in hubs, so the axles don't move. With c-clip rear axles you have a good amount of axle movement when going around corners. For this reason, I prefer floating rear calipers with c-clip axles, and I run LS1 4th gen f-body brakes on my 70 GTO with the C6 Z06 fronts on ATS spindles.
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http://www.kore3.com
Also keep in mind, if you guys retain the c-clip rear axles, you will have wicked pad knock back if you run the C6 Z06 fixed rear calipers. Remember, a Vette has bolt in hubs, so the axles don't move. With c-clip rear axles you have a good amount of axle movement when going around corners. For this reason, I prefer floating rear calipers with c-clip axles, and I run LS1 4th gen f-body brakes on my 70 GTO with the C6 Z06 fronts on ATS spindles.
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Also keep in mind, if you guys retain the c-clip rear axles, you will have wicked pad knock back if you run the C6 Z06 fixed rear calipers. Remember, a Vette has bolt in hubs, so the axles don't move. With c-clip rear axles you have a good amount of axle movement when going around corners. For this reason, I prefer floating rear calipers with c-clip axles, and I run LS1 4th gen f-body brakes on my 70 GTO with the C6 Z06 fronts on ATS spindles.
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Can anyone provide me with more info on rear floating calipers (what year vehicles had them? Where can I find them?) I have a 70 chevelle with a 12 bolt I am trying to attach either c5-c6 rear calipers & mounts or 1998-2002 rear calipers & mounts.
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Ok cool, thats what I meant, 1998-2002 camaro rear calipers and mounts. So those are "floating" calipers..... Thx for that info.
I have a set of 1997 or 96 rear calipers and brackets. I purchased a set of Baer Decelar Rotor 55043-020 because I thought they would fit the camaro calipers. They wont fit the 97 & below but do you or anyone know if they will fit the 1998-02 camaro rear calipers & mounts? I am running c5/c6 front calipers so I ordered the rotors for those.
And I believe I need to find an abutment bracket for the front vette calipers. (Abutment, I think thats the name of them but I may be wrong)...
I have a set of 1997 or 96 rear calipers and brackets. I purchased a set of Baer Decelar Rotor 55043-020 because I thought they would fit the camaro calipers. They wont fit the 97 & below but do you or anyone know if they will fit the 1998-02 camaro rear calipers & mounts? I am running c5/c6 front calipers so I ordered the rotors for those.
And I believe I need to find an abutment bracket for the front vette calipers. (Abutment, I think thats the name of them but I may be wrong)...
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Ok cool, thats what I meant, 1998-2002 camaro rear calipers and mounts. So those are "floating" calipers..... Thx for that info.
I have a set of 1997 or 96 rear calipers and brackets. I purchased a set of Baer Decelar Rotor 55043-020 because I thought they would fit the camaro calipers. They wont fit the 97 & below but do you or anyone know if they will fit the 1998-02 camaro rear calipers & mounts? I am running c5/c6 front calipers so I ordered the rotors for those.
And I believe I need to find an abutment bracket for the front vette calipers. (Abutment, I think thats the name of them but I may be wrong)...
I have a set of 1997 or 96 rear calipers and brackets. I purchased a set of Baer Decelar Rotor 55043-020 because I thought they would fit the camaro calipers. They wont fit the 97 & below but do you or anyone know if they will fit the 1998-02 camaro rear calipers & mounts? I am running c5/c6 front calipers so I ordered the rotors for those.
And I believe I need to find an abutment bracket for the front vette calipers. (Abutment, I think thats the name of them but I may be wrong)...
Andrew
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4th gen LS1 brakes on the back of mine and C6 Z51 on the front, with Kore3 conversion spindles and Wilwood 6 pot calipers. The Spindles are upgrades from "standard" Kore3 spindles, with bigger outer bearings to handle road race abuse. The whole package fits inside 17" wheels (with 2" spacers) without grinding.