Conversions & Swaps LSX Engines in Non-LSX Vehicles
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Simple accessory drive done!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Dec 27, 2008 | 02:46 PM
  #1  
garys 68's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Junkie
15 Year Member
Photogenic
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 3,724
Likes: 39
From: Camdenton, MO
Default Simple accessory drive done!

I just finished the accessory drive on my 68 vette.
Simple, only needed a AC and alternator drive. I added the 2 idler pulleys at the last minute to be sure I got enough belt wrap around the balancer. The belt is tensioned by the alternator swinging up and away from the engine.
Reply
Old Dec 27, 2008 | 05:26 PM
  #2  
TTLS1GP's Avatar
TECH Apprentice
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 310
Likes: 1
From: Winnipeg, Manitoba
Default

What idler pullies did you use? I only see two connection points on the alternator. What is stopping the alternator from pivoting and falling down? Is the bottom bolt a thru bolt?
Reply
Old Dec 27, 2008 | 05:40 PM
  #3  
garys 68's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Junkie
15 Year Member
Photogenic
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 3,724
Likes: 39
From: Camdenton, MO
Default

I used 2 standard idlers (70mm F body ribbed, and Gates #38018 70mm smooth). They're mounted to the water pump tensioner bolt holes.
The alternator pivots on a spacer block through a head bolt hole. The spacer is monted on the 2 outside head bolt holes. There's an adjustable upper arm link that swings the alternator up and out to be used as a tensioner. It also had some flex in the alternator, so I added another link to the front bolt hole of the alternator to stabilize it.
The alternator works like the SBC setup.
I've got about $100 in it, but $70 of that is in the 2 adjustable rod ends. I tried using the SBC stuff, but there was too much flex.

Last edited by garys 68; Mar 13, 2009 at 12:18 PM.
Reply
Old Dec 27, 2008 | 05:44 PM
  #4  
TTLS1GP's Avatar
TECH Apprentice
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 310
Likes: 1
From: Winnipeg, Manitoba
Default

the ac plate is out of aluminum i would assume? why plate that insead of adjustable arms? so you'd have mounting points for the idlers?
Reply
Old Dec 27, 2008 | 06:58 PM
  #5  
garys 68's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Junkie
15 Year Member
Photogenic
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 3,724
Likes: 39
From: Camdenton, MO
Default

Aluminum plates costs me $0, and the plates are very solid. You could probably lift the motor by one of those plates. The added idlers were just in case of slippage without enough crank ballancer wrap.
I used adjusters on the alternator simply so I could have adjustment without a spring tensioner.
Originally Posted by TTLS1GP
the ac plate is out of aluminum i would assume? why plate that insead of adjustable arms? so you'd have mounting points for the idlers?
Reply
Old Dec 27, 2008 | 09:36 PM
  #6  
ChucksZ06's Avatar
TECH Resident
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 976
Likes: 1
Default

Looks good...I love innovation.
Reply
Old Dec 28, 2008 | 10:50 AM
  #7  
JoeyGC5's Avatar
TECH Addict
iTrader: (24)
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 2,645
Likes: 0
From: St Joe, MO
Default

cool
Reply
Old Dec 28, 2008 | 11:57 AM
  #8  
NemeSS's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
iTrader: (127)
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 6,889
Likes: 9
From: Houston,TX
Default

cant see pics
Reply
Old Dec 28, 2008 | 04:43 PM
  #9  
sparkwirez06's Avatar
TECH Regular
iTrader: (18)
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 440
Likes: 0
From: brunswick, ohio
Default

do you have a pic from the top?
Reply
Old Dec 28, 2008 | 05:39 PM
  #10  
garys 68's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Junkie
15 Year Member
Photogenic
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 3,724
Likes: 39
From: Camdenton, MO
Default

I'll shoot a few tomorrow. It was set up to use the truck accessories and mechanical fan, so I fitted an air tube to use a cowl intake.
Pics to come.

Originally Posted by sparkwirez06
do you have a pic from the top?
Reply
Old Dec 28, 2008 | 07:05 PM
  #11  
67RS/SSx2's Avatar
Staging Lane
 
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 62
Likes: 0
From: Central Oklahoma
Default

Great job!

How thick does an aluminum plate need to be for this type of application?
Reply
Old Dec 28, 2008 | 07:44 PM
  #12  
garys 68's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Junkie
15 Year Member
Photogenic
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 3,724
Likes: 39
From: Camdenton, MO
Default

I used 1/4" plate for both the front and reat Vintage Air AC compressor plate. I had to add a 1mm spacer plate to get the compressor to align with the crank pulley grooves.
The difficult part with old vettes is keeping the accessories under the hood, but not having belt interference problems with the vetttes A arms.

Originally Posted by 67RS/SSx2
Great job!
How thick does an aluminum plate need to be for this type of application?
Reply
Old Dec 29, 2008 | 09:58 AM
  #13  
ErikSOCAL's Avatar
Staging Lane
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 86
Likes: 0
From: Now in VA
Default

I take it you are running a manual steering box?

very cool
Reply
Old Dec 29, 2008 | 04:02 PM
  #14  
garys 68's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Junkie
15 Year Member
Photogenic
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 3,724
Likes: 39
From: Camdenton, MO
Default

Yep, manual steering. I do about 90% hiway, so power steering was not worth the cost or effort.

Originally Posted by ErikSOCAL
I take it you are running a manual steering box?

very cool
Reply
Old Dec 29, 2008 | 04:34 PM
  #15  
garys 68's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Junkie
15 Year Member
Photogenic
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 3,724
Likes: 39
From: Camdenton, MO
Default

Top images.
Alternator mount:

Vintage Air compressor:

The whole thing with fan:
Reply
Old Dec 29, 2008 | 11:03 PM
  #16  
68 RS Convertible's Avatar
Launching!
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 259
Likes: 0
From: RI
Default

Just curious, it looks like you are running and F body water pump with a truck style pulley. Are you going to run the mechanical fan or electric? What is your plan for running the upper radiator hose without interfering with the mechanical fan?
Reply
Old Dec 30, 2008 | 12:12 AM
  #17  
garys 68's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Junkie
15 Year Member
Photogenic
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 3,724
Likes: 39
From: Camdenton, MO
Default

Yep, I swapped the pulleys on the water pump. I'm running a mechanical fan with an electric one too that's actuated by engine temp or the AC compressor. I cut off the top outlet so I can run the hose inside and around the fan.
Originally Posted by 68 RS Convertible
Just curious, it looks like you are running and F body water pump with a truck style pulley. Are you going to run the mechanical fan or electric? What is your plan for running the upper radiator hose without interfering with the mechanical fan?
Reply
Old Dec 30, 2008 | 10:12 PM
  #18  
lsxyj's Avatar
Launching!
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 200
Likes: 0
From: clovis nm
Default

looks good
Reply
Old Jul 24, 2009 | 08:46 PM
  #19  
djsanchez2's Avatar
TECH Addict
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 2,727
Likes: 0
From: Simi Valley, CA.
Default

Is that all that holds it up, the 2 adjustable rods? Or is there a third mount in the rear?
Reply
Old Jul 25, 2009 | 01:09 AM
  #20  
G-Body's Avatar
sawzall wielding director
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 3,145
Likes: 12
From: Downers Grove, IL
Default

Looks to me like the lower adjustable rod has a bolt that goes through it, the alternator and then into the head.
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:48 AM.