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Old Feb 17, 2012 | 08:05 AM
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I guess some updates....

ls1 soun a bearing, so i picked up an lm7 for the time being and rebuilt the ls1.


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Been a while, but got around to rebuilding my LS1. After tearing it down, i was amazed it ran in the first place.

Stock ls1 cam - Decent sized knick is rear intake and exhaust lobes
Stock lifters - They were so weak and collapsed, you could push them with your pinky
Valves - Three were bent
Valve springs - Only measured at 60lbs, give or take 10-20%
Valve seats were banged up from valve float
Oil pump - stock from 1998
Crank - trashed 4+6 journals
Rods- trashed 4+6
It had mismatched bearings for mains and rods and most were 40 over.

Needless to say, i was pretty upset that it looked so good on the outside and so shitty on the inside. I contacted the previous owner and told him, he was eager to hear back from me the first few times after i had it running in the chassis but when i tore it apart and listed everything that was wrong, he completely ignored my emails from that point on. I wasnt asking for anything from him, just stating that the engine was not a good rebuild.

New Specs:
20022004 LS6 Cam. I: 204 E: 218. I: .550 E: .550. 117.5.
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Old Dec 15, 2012 | 04:50 PM
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Old Dec 15, 2012 | 05:29 PM
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Congrats on getting it back together.
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Thank you.

Bought the car an xmas gift this year.

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Old Dec 27, 2012 | 10:22 AM
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I was so happy when you finally decided on a rim/tire package so we could finally see some actual progress pictures. Congrats on the swap, sucks about the **** rebuild but that's life man... Come on a rebuilt LS1 for 450 just sounds fishy lol. Good luck with the next one.
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I have two bmws, and i like wheels, so changing them out is something i like to do each year.
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I have two bmws, and i like wheels, so changing them out is something i like to do each year.
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Did you end up with a 5.3L then? What kind of gas mileage do you get?
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Did you end up with a 5.3L then? What kind of gas mileage do you get?
Ls1. 23city/30high
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Isn't that basically what they got from the factory?

I need a new daily driver. Perhaps I should consider a 318ti. How long will the stock 4 bangers go mileage wise? Should I be leery of a high mileage one? I've never had a BMW, do you like driving it?

After I'm done with my 6.0 turbo build in my silverado, I'll have my factory 5.3L. Will the extra weight of the iron block be troublesome?

I have some googling to do.
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I've had 4 of them in the past 6 years, they're very versatile. I was seeing 21-25 on a daily basis, drove from Maine to Ohio with the 1.8/5spd/3.45lsd/ 205-55-16 and made 37 mpg at about 80-85mph. The autos are garbage, they're gm transmissions and suck gas, are much heavier than a t56, just poop. The 4 bangers seem to come apart at about 200k. Had one chuck a rod, one spun a bearing, one lost a plastic chain guide and jumped timing, the other was DOA. I've ripped all mine out and put something else in.

5.3/t56/4.10 is a nasty combo and the car feels great on m3 suspension. The ls, you don't notice the weight like the lm.
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All the ones I've found on Craigslist have about 200k on them. It would be nice to have a daily driver that gets mpg. People complain the 4 cylinder is a turd, but it's got to be better than buying a corolla.

I wonder how much a rebuilt 4 cyl would be. I could get into a high mileage one, swap to a low mileage engine, drive it around for a few years and collect parts.

So, avoid automatics. Anything else to look for?

I like this one:

http://www.carsforsale.com/used_cars..._197221513_620

Thoughts?

Thanks for the build up thread btw, I'll be studying if I end up going this route. Step 1 has to be reliable daily driver though. Oh, what's with the overheating problems?
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Stay away from autos, the one in the listing is an auto. I'm sure you can get a high mileage and be fine, just have to replace maintenance items. Chain guides, timing can guides, Pcv system, filters, belts, and cooling system. All euro cars use a lot of plastics for the cooling system, so they break down. Everything is more premaintenance rather than waiting for it to go wrong. Picking up a 95 5 speed is the best option if you want to swap anything into it. Chassis changes haven't been made that hinder a differential upgrade, obd1, simplistic, most all options are preinstalled. Otherwise, get a 96+ sport model, you get suspension, larger rims, body kit, interior kit, special vin, overall a better version of the car but the same engine. 95 you can chip the ecu for 42$ to liven it up, 96+ is a flash and much more expensive.

They're a lot more fun than a corolla.
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Awesome! Thank you. I was thinking that was a manual, it says it is. But looking at the picture and turning the brightness up, I see it's an automatic. Bummer.
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Yea, you want to start with a manual, if you're stuffin manual back in it. The chassis harness gets changed and has some wires that need to be Rewired to work lights and get the engine to start. Limited slip comes from older 3/5/7 series for about 250$. Brakes and suspension are really easy to come by, just get it all from a 6cyl e36.
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Sweet. I have a vacation coming up. If I can find a 1995 318ti I'm white somewhere in the US, I'll fly there and drive home. Sounds fun.
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Originally Posted by Tony Nichols
Stay away from autos, the one in the listing is an auto. I'm sure you can get a high mileage and be fine, just have to replace maintenance items. Chain guides, timing can guides, Pcv system, filters, belts, and cooling system. All euro cars use a lot of plastics for the cooling system, so they break down. Everything is more premaintenance rather than waiting for it to go wrong. Picking up a 95 5 speed is the best option if you want to swap anything into it. Chassis changes haven't been made that hinder a differential upgrade, obd1, simplistic, most all options are preinstalled. Otherwise, get a 96+ sport model, you get suspension, larger rims, body kit, interior kit, special vin, overall a better version of the car but the same engine. 95 you can chip the ecu for 42$ to liven it up, 96+ is a flash and much more expensive.

They're a lot more fun than a corolla.
Why is a 95 better for swaps? Simpler wiring or something? What's the chassis difference? I've googled and I'm reading that they're the same suspension wise. Is there a mounting difference?

I'm having a hard time finding a 95. There's one in Georgia. That's a long drive to Oregon. LOL. I do have family in Missouri though. Maybe a 5 day road trip is in order. I'm a bit leery of flying to Georgia and then driving an 18 year old car 2800 miles.

What makes the swap harder in the newer versions?
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