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Old Jan 24, 2010 | 05:48 PM
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before: I was having a problem where the nova stopped running and wouldnt start again. no spark, no injector pulse. I had build the harness my self. I changed every single sensor with one off a running truck. still nothing. tried different ecm to no avail.

Now: I kept on thinking it was my harness so we got a new professional built stand alone harness. Put it in and it started right up. Started multiple times throughout the afternoon. Last time we started it, it just stopped running. Now no spark, no injector pulse, and I cant connect to the ecm. i tried two other ecms and still nothing.

So WTF is wrong with this thing?
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Old Jan 24, 2010 | 06:02 PM
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Grounds? How many do you have and are you sure they all are tightened down?
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Old Jan 24, 2010 | 06:11 PM
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i would just check fuses,
all connections..ground and positive,,but you probly already did that,,right..
i think your def not getting any power/ground to ecm, check from there

electrical is pain,,
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Old Jan 24, 2010 | 07:08 PM
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cant connect to the ecm
Start there. Check PCM power and grounds first
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Old Jan 24, 2010 | 07:55 PM
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i have checked all the powers and grounds. I literally didnt change anything from it running to not running. I cant work on it again until friday but i will be added ground and ground from the battery directly to the block. I truely hate this car
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Old Jan 24, 2010 | 08:56 PM
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Electrical gremlins are the gear head's Ultimate Nightmare.
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Old Jan 25, 2010 | 12:49 AM
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Sounds like something burned up..hope you get it worked out.
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Old Jan 25, 2010 | 12:56 AM
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Don't let it kick your *** man, sounds like what I like to call, "new pair of eyes syndrome" You know, and I know it's probably something simple thats getting overlooked. The more it aggravates you and the more you think about it, the easier it gets to look past something simple. I do it all the time, and often someone will stop by with a thought/ idea from a different mindset and many times it solves the problem and you laugh about it afterwards...give it a few days. We both know it's no secret underhood ninja....make sure you let us know when you get it and you sit back to enjoy an ice cold one!
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Old Jan 25, 2010 | 04:39 AM
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I literally didnt change anything from it running to not running
That doesnt mean you didnt pop a fuse or something. They're quick tests with a multimeter
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Old Jan 25, 2010 | 06:31 AM
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Agreed.^^^

I drove for months after a conversion, then blew a fuse that shut me down. Traced it to my fuel pump relay, replaced the fuse drove another 2 days, popped it again. Cleaned grounds, replaced the relay and haven't had a problem since. Bad grounds can cause weird problems.

I learned in the car audio world that self tapping screws are NOT good grounds.
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Old Jan 25, 2010 | 07:45 AM
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As an experienced mechanic i can not stress how important grounds are..

Take a multimeter and measure the loss of voltage on both the plus and minus side of the ecm and make your way through the wiring, fuses and relays. "simple as that"
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Old Jan 25, 2010 | 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by gofastwclass
I learned in the car audio world that self tapping screws are NOT good grounds.
It's not the screws..it's the surface you use them on..if you screwed into bare clean metal then you would be good.
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Old Jan 25, 2010 | 08:48 AM
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Possibly a bad ignition swtch not powering up the pcm.
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Old Jan 25, 2010 | 09:52 AM
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I have checked all the battery leads and ign to the ECM. They are good. I am going to put on some new grounds and see what happens
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Old Jan 25, 2010 | 09:57 AM
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Put a carb on it... LMAO ... j/k
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Old Jan 25, 2010 | 10:43 AM
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did you have the security taken out the new ecu? I know I had to have mine programmed before it would start
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