Engine wont get out of it's own way
#1
Engine wont get out of it's own way
Just finished my 4.8l install after alot of crap, it runs but runs like crap, any ideas? I got my tune from Jesse at Wait4me Performance, I have like 50+ PSI fuel pressure at the rail, it is an 05 4.8 with 02 DBC intake and stuff on it.
Thanks Guys
Thanks Guys
#4
This is the way it started, 1st run. it just doesnt have ANY power at all, it runs fine at idle and when you hit the gas, it just feels bogged down and sluggish. the tune was done a while ago.
#5
You should have 58 PSI at the rail. Less than that and the engine will do all sorts of weird stuff. One key on / off cycle should net 58 PSI and it should hold that while not running. Eventually it will leak down but you should be able to watch for a minute or two and not have much drop.
Is your MAF plugged in? Do you have any codes? Is you wiring correct and WELL grounded?
I know it sounds stupid and obvious but if your voltage is low and / or your battery terminals aren't up to par, the engine will likely run like dog poo. The alternator should be charging between 13.2 and 14.4 volts with the engine running...
Not trying to sound like a know it all but I can't emphasize the importance of good grounds, good electrical connections and proper fuel pressure. If you are having electrical or slight fuel pressure issues (especially if they are intermittent) you may not get codes.
Is your MAF plugged in? Do you have any codes? Is you wiring correct and WELL grounded?
I know it sounds stupid and obvious but if your voltage is low and / or your battery terminals aren't up to par, the engine will likely run like dog poo. The alternator should be charging between 13.2 and 14.4 volts with the engine running...
Not trying to sound like a know it all but I can't emphasize the importance of good grounds, good electrical connections and proper fuel pressure. If you are having electrical or slight fuel pressure issues (especially if they are intermittent) you may not get codes.
#7
What does the fuel pressure do when you give it gas? When you say 50ish, exactly how much do you have? What kind of fuel setup are you running?
It starts so that's good, sounds like it's starving for gas to me......
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It starts so that's good, sounds like it's starving for gas to me......
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#8
The computer, injectors are all tuned to be at 58psi.. less then 58psi would explain why idle is good. but as soon as you hit the gas a bit.. there is not enough fuel being sprayed and you are most likely having a lean condition.
As some electrical expert once told me.. 99% of electrical problem are bad grounds. So.. having good grounds were needed is a Requirement ! not a I guess this will work !
So.. what eveyone is getting to and saying. Start at the beginning if you expect help from us. And make sure all fuel and electrical requiremetns for the engine are meet (Fuel pressure, Battery voltage, etc). Check for vacuum leaks also...
Good luck..
P.s... i have a jessie mail tune also, it fire right up 1st time and have had no problem (but could really use a dyno tune for that last bit of power)
As some electrical expert once told me.. 99% of electrical problem are bad grounds. So.. having good grounds were needed is a Requirement ! not a I guess this will work !
So.. what eveyone is getting to and saying. Start at the beginning if you expect help from us. And make sure all fuel and electrical requiremetns for the engine are meet (Fuel pressure, Battery voltage, etc). Check for vacuum leaks also...
Good luck..
P.s... i have a jessie mail tune also, it fire right up 1st time and have had no problem (but could really use a dyno tune for that last bit of power)
#9
Look here.
Im having the same problem and same pcm tuned by Jesse @ waitforme. Take your time to read.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...situation.html
Im having the same problem and same pcm tuned by Jesse @ waitforme. Take your time to read.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...situation.html
#10
I have 54psi at the rail, but it fluctuates too, the engine is running like the timing is way off, in the computer, the o2 sensors dont show a code and they are not installed. when i take the plug off the MAF sensor, no codes at all, nothing changes. I made sure the engine grounds are clean and tight, one on each side of the engine to the frame, the harness ground behind the intake cleaned and tightened.
the engine runs bad at idle too, like the timing is way off. but also wont get out of its own way. my mechanic says all other sensors are correct.
no codes are set at all, that is weird
the engine runs bad at idle too, like the timing is way off. but also wont get out of its own way. my mechanic says all other sensors are correct.
no codes are set at all, that is weird
Last edited by Clyde65; 04-09-2010 at 11:00 AM. Reason: codes
#17
I found this info on
http://www.fbparts.com/ls_general_info.htm
The 4.8L crankshaft is an iron crankshaft with 2.1” rod journals and 2.65” main journals. The stroke is 3.267” and is designed to work with a connecting rod length of 6.275”. They started out with a 24-tooth reluctor wheel and this was used through the 2007 model year in the classic 800 series trucks. However, in 2007 starting with the 900 series full size truck, they were changed to the 58-tooth reluctor wheel.
http://www.fbparts.com/ls_general_info.htm
The 4.8L crankshaft is an iron crankshaft with 2.1” rod journals and 2.65” main journals. The stroke is 3.267” and is designed to work with a connecting rod length of 6.275”. They started out with a 24-tooth reluctor wheel and this was used through the 2007 model year in the classic 800 series trucks. However, in 2007 starting with the 900 series full size truck, they were changed to the 58-tooth reluctor wheel.
#18
I have 54psi at the rail, but it fluctuates too, the engine is running like the timing is way off, in the computer, the o2 sensors dont show a code and they are not installed. when i take the plug off the MAF sensor, no codes at all, nothing changes. I made sure the engine grounds are clean and tight, one on each side of the engine to the frame, the harness ground behind the intake cleaned and tightened.
the engine runs bad at idle too, like the timing is way off. but also wont get out of its own way. my mechanic says all other sensors are correct.
no codes are set at all, that is weird
the engine runs bad at idle too, like the timing is way off. but also wont get out of its own way. my mechanic says all other sensors are correct.
no codes are set at all, that is weird
Clyde65, when did you buy that computer? I think I bought mine early december 2009.
Last edited by Spike-Z; 04-09-2010 at 04:29 PM.
#19
I got it when I got my motor in August 2009. Just doesnt make sense to me.... If I had another "stock" computer without a tune, what would the engine do? run then die?
BTW what does it look like when the rear o2's are removed in the tune? By what my mechanic says he doesnt think they are removed.
BTW what does it look like when the rear o2's are removed in the tune? By what my mechanic says he doesnt think they are removed.