SBF into a 98-02 F-Body
05-11-2010, 08:25 PM
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Im not building this as a " drag only car ", its just a high HP build with parts I already have. If you can pull me an 1100 hp LS motor out of the bone yard for cheap I'll do that... hell, If you can find me a pan to intake complete 1100 hp LS engine for 8k I'll do that to.
I'm not sure what TGO is but I don't have anything prostreet and the last car I would ever spend a cent on would be a 3rd gen lol.
I'm not sure what TGO is but I don't have anything prostreet and the last car I would ever spend a cent on would be a 3rd gen lol.
This is the thread I was talking about
http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/en...i-think-i.html
05-11-2010, 08:26 PM
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I think this is awesome man. More power to you. I can't stand "brand nut swingers" no matter what brand they are supporting. I give respect where it is due and anything that makes 1100+hp is cool in my book.
GL with the build. I look forward to seeing the results.
GL with the build. I look forward to seeing the results.
05-11-2010, 08:47 PM
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Really dont like fords. There are alot of young punk *** kids around here that think they have the baddest mustang when they are just....junk. I was born a chevy person will die a chevy person and I cannot understand any part of a concept of why someone would want to put a pos ford into a fbody.
IMHO the only thing ford has done right is their rear ends. Our 7.5 rear ends are a joke...Chevrolet should have taken some lessons from Ford in that department. Chevrolet should have also taken lessons in financial responsibility then maybe Chevrolet wouldnt be controlled by the government.
IMHO the only thing ford has done right is their rear ends. Our 7.5 rear ends are a joke...Chevrolet should have taken some lessons from Ford in that department. Chevrolet should have also taken lessons in financial responsibility then maybe Chevrolet wouldnt be controlled by the government.
My opinion though, is that the LS engine is the only good thing about this chassis. Except maybe the suspension design. Big fan of the gen3, hate the 90's camaros.
I know a thing or two about ford efi, and I'm subscribed. Does the f-body computer use a hall effect cam sensor or vr? They are both available for your ford as factory replacement parts, and they're infinitely clockable.
05-11-2010, 09:04 PM
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Thats what I am going to figure out as well. 90% of the factory LS harness will fit onto the SBF. Its really the only reason I even made a post on here is for the tech on the GM electrical once I get it all on the drawing board. The worst part of this build is going to be the headers as someone else mentioned before. I wish I could fit a standard SBF blower under the hood because they are a dime a dozen and super cheap. Putting a 88 or 91 on it with a mild turbo cam should yield nice results and be plenty streetable with no maint.
05-11-2010, 09:55 PM
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Thats what I am going to figure out as well. 90% of the factory LS harness will fit onto the SBF. Its really the only reason I even made a post on here is for the tech on the GM electrical once I get it all on the drawing board. The worst part of this build is going to be the headers as someone else mentioned before. I wish I could fit a standard SBF blower under the hood because they are a dime a dozen and super cheap. Putting a 88 or 91 on it with a mild turbo cam should yield nice results and be plenty streetable with no maint.
If the guy wants to do this I think the best suggestion is to run with a carburetor, points based distributor and no ECM or run a ford ECM setup. He could run TBI with an aftermarket fuel setup such as the one Holley offers.
On a side note. Good luck with a vehicle producing 1100 horsepower and no maintance....
05-11-2010, 09:59 PM
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With a custom 24x reluctor on the crank and LSx sensor it should work on any engine
Cam sensor would need to be addressed as well
For the rest, using LSx sensors like MAF/MAP etc should fool the LSx PCM into thinking it was running a chevy
Hammering out a tune depends on how good your tuner is. Early ford EFI systems have been converted over to SBCs before, no reason the largly universal LSx system cant be converted back
If all else fails you can build a stand alone ford harness and splice it into the Fbody wiring like any common swap
Cam sensor would need to be addressed as well
For the rest, using LSx sensors like MAF/MAP etc should fool the LSx PCM into thinking it was running a chevy
Hammering out a tune depends on how good your tuner is. Early ford EFI systems have been converted over to SBCs before, no reason the largly universal LSx system cant be converted back
If all else fails you can build a stand alone ford harness and splice it into the Fbody wiring like any common swap
05-11-2010, 10:15 PM
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05-11-2010, 10:17 PM
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Thats what I am going to figure out as well. 90% of the factory LS harness will fit onto the SBF. Its really the only reason I even made a post on here is for the tech on the GM electrical once I get it all on the drawing board. The worst part of this build is going to be the headers as someone else mentioned before. I wish I could fit a standard SBF blower under the hood because they are a dime a dozen and super cheap. Putting a 88 or 91 on it with a mild turbo cam should yield nice results and be plenty streetable with no maint.
05-11-2010, 10:26 PM
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With a custom 24x reluctor on the crank and LSx sensor it should work on any engine
Cam sensor would need to be addressed as well
For the rest, using LSx sensors like MAF/MAP etc should fool the LSx PCM into thinking it was running a chevy
Hammering out a tune depends on how good your tuner is. Early ford EFI systems have been converted over to SBCs before, no reason the largly universal LSx system cant be converted back
If all else fails you can build a stand alone ford harness and splice it into the Fbody wiring like any common swap
Cam sensor would need to be addressed as well
For the rest, using LSx sensors like MAF/MAP etc should fool the LSx PCM into thinking it was running a chevy
Hammering out a tune depends on how good your tuner is. Early ford EFI systems have been converted over to SBCs before, no reason the largly universal LSx system cant be converted back
If all else fails you can build a stand alone ford harness and splice it into the Fbody wiring like any common swap
05-11-2010, 10:53 PM
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I wana know what SBF you built that is making 1100fwhp without the power adder on the motor for $8K? I know a lot about LSX motors but I also know a few things about SBF motors and it isn't that much cheaper than building a LSX motor!! You said you have a dart block 368ci? What heads, duration cam, intake etc. Not saying B.S. yet but I know what it takes to make a SBF run!
05-11-2010, 10:57 PM
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