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Old 06-18-2012 | 12:38 PM
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The Camaro is looking sweet! Alot of nice parts went into that car for sure. There is one of those parts I am particualrly interested in if you don't mind me asking. The clutch master, did you fab the bracket or buy the bracket that mounts it to the firewall?
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The Camaro is looking sweet! Alot of nice parts went into that car for sure. There is one of those parts I am particualrly interested in if you don't mind me asking. The clutch master, did you fab the bracket or buy the bracket that mounts it to the firewall?
Thanks man. The whole clutch set up came as a kit from american powertrain. Its a really nice piece. Here is a link to the parts. I dont know if they will sell just the mount youd have to call them. Thanks, Steven

http://americanpowertrain.com/i-8521...viper-t56.html
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Thanks! I may end up going with the Tick Performance adjustable master but the Hydramax seems to have a bit more flexibility as far as mounting is concerned.

The rear shot of the Camaro looks mean as ****!
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Man,car looks great!!what suspension u go with??
Old 06-20-2012 | 10:07 AM
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Man,car looks great!!what suspension u go with??
Thanks man. Currently the car had a ridetech 4 link rear set up and in the front its all stock other than a pair of QA1 coilovers.. That will be changing soon enough thought to either a full DSE, Speedtech or stock sub w/ all ridetech equipment... once I can shake some more money off my money tree out back..
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Really,not happy with ride tech??im thinking about going with full ride tech setup!
Old 06-20-2012 | 12:35 PM
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Never mind,I re read,your talking front end!
Old 06-25-2012 | 01:07 PM
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Congrats! The car is looking GREAT! I know you must be psyched to have that engine fired up, all the hard wok is paying off! Can't wait to see more on this build for sure!
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looks like its coming along great!
Old 08-04-2012 | 05:14 PM
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So I disappeared for awhile but have been working on the car. After a week at injection connection Dale called me and said there was a couple issues with the car.

1) The brakes where locking up and won't release.
2) The motor threw the belt
3) Both axel seals are leaking
4) The ecu is throwing a crank relearn code and won't take the relearn.

So I went and picked up the car. He did put a rough tune on it to keep the car running. I brought the car home took all the brake lines apart and blew everything out with air and bleed them all again. Fixed the issue. The crank pulley I'm not really sure on this one. I changed the crank pulley to another one which I don't think did anything. The crank pulley is still in 3/16". I'm still working on this issue. I called moser and got new axles seals and was told on the phone that the fill on there rear is NOT on the rear cover. It's located on the passenger side pumpkin. So between installing the old seals without a seal installer and it being way over full. That issue has been fixed. The crank relearn me and my buddy John tried to fix with a tech II but again is didn't take. Luckily Dale figured out that the values can be turned to 0%, which is what we did.

So once all these issues where addressed. I set up to bring the car back on August 3. That's what we did. Got the car there around 11 and was all done by 3. Great experience with injection connect. Dales got a great crew and is very knowledgable with these cars. Being that it was 90+ outside and high humidity Dale feels there is a bit left on the table, so there might be a retune in the fall..now I was told the car made around 540hp & 570tq at the wheels. But when I look at the graph it shows differently..who knows. Here a quick dyno video and the graph.


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So now I still have a few things to do until I can register her and actually take her out. Here's the list

1)install front and rear windows
2)wire turn signals
3)put bulbs in turn signals and tail lights
4)buy and install front and rear sway bars
5)get longer power steering lines
6)dial in suspension and get an alignment
7)recheck driveline angles.
8)do big smokey burnout with some skynyrd blasting and get a video for YouTube!!!
Old 08-05-2012 | 01:25 AM
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Looking good!!!
Old 08-06-2012 | 12:50 PM
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Looking great! Congratulations on getting those bugs worked out and getting it in for a tune. The car looks great! Can't wait to hear that Skynard blazing!
Old 08-06-2012 | 07:20 PM
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Awesome build lucky guy!!
Old 09-07-2012 | 11:55 AM
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So not too much going on in the last month. I’ve been pushing hard to get the car on the road, which has happened. Got the front and back windows installed without the trim for the moment. (Going to try to go flush mount when they come back out for paint and ditch the trim all together if I can) Put the front grill in, all new bulbs in the whole car. So everything works at the moment. Bought and installed ridetechs muscle bar. Had to trim the frame where they welded on these big corner things on the front of the shock towers. Other than that it fit perfectly with my stock lower control arms. I’ll have to get some pictures up. Also my birthday has passed and my wonderful wife bought me a wood nardi wheel for my birthday which has also been installed.


So after all that was done I really wanted to get over to the last car show of the year on august 28th. It was around 5 miles from the house. So the night before I got the car registered which gave me 5 days to drive it before inspection. I had the car registered under standard plates. Not antique or classic - which in PA require no annual inspection of any kind but you can only drive the car 1 day a week and it should be to or from some type of car event. I didn’t build the car to not drive it so that weighed my decision. Which opened up a whole can of worms with inspection. So Tuesday comes and I head out to the car show with some friends and I get about a mile before the show and the car throws a check engine light and goes into limp mode at a red lights. We pushed the car to a driveway and it literally dies out. Before it died I looked at the volt meter and it was reading around 8 volts. So I knew it was something to do with the charging system. Got the car towed through hagerty which is part of my insurance. So all in all it worked out. Come to find out that the alternator was not receiving signal from the ecu. Fixed the issue and everything is now working correctly. Big thanks to John over at PSI for the great customer service in figuring out the problem with me. So on this past Saturday I took the car over to the inspection shop to have it looked over to figure out what I need to have done to legally get a sticker. Here is my next list of problems to be addressed:

1)Need windshield wipers
2)Exhaust needs to exit the rear of the car
3)Need a drivers mirror
4)Needs rear reverse lights
5)Seat belts need to be installed
6)Horn needs to work

All of these seem to not be too bad with the exception of the pipes and the wiper. I really dont want to have to put out money for the custom pipes from prodigy. Im thinking I am going to try my self to get them mocked up and then have them welded at a shop. My labor is free. For the wipers I dont have the cash for the dse kit which is what I want. Im going to try to make the stocker work for the time being and see if that gets me by. I have to buy a side window and the rear rs lights as I dont have them..so if anyone has some used parts please feel free to let me know..we can barter also. Here are some pictures from the last month. More to come..

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Old 11-09-2012 | 10:49 AM
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So not too much really going on at the moment but I am still moving along with the car..the car passed inspection after I fixed these issues:

1)Installed and put on new windshield wipers
2)Exhaust now exits the rear of the car
3)Installed a drivers mirror
4)Hooked up the rear reverse lights
5)Installed Seat belts
6)Hooked up the Horn

Drove the car for a bit but a check engine light keeps coming up for tps..after doing some digging on this the ecu has to have the parameters changed for the throttle due to it being a 102 and aftermarket. Talked to Dale and he said bring the car in and he'll take care of it no problem..so I still have to do that. There is two things keeping me from doing this..one is no ebrake and the other is the weather has been getting colder so Ill have to pick a nice day to try to get over there before winter hits being that I have no side windows or heat. For the ebrake I just finished installing this last night. it works but not great. I have to make a few more adjustments and I think it will work great. Have to get some pictures of this.

In other news after driving for a bit I felt that the shifter/steering wheel/right leg area was to tight and I wanted to try to free up some space..so the first thing I did was to try to adjust the shifter and change the position to get it more towards the passenger side a bit. Well I failed at that after breaking 2 allen sockets and the allen key head off in the first bolt. The next day a quick call to Josh over at American Powertrain he tells me that the whole shifter I have it old and they have since revised it to have an internal seal to stop it from seeping. He offers to send me a brand new one and for me to just send the old one back. So that’s what I did...got the new one and took me around 2-3 hours to install. It was a bit tight in that tunnel trying to take out and replace 6 allen bolts by hand...but its done now and I can adjust it. Got some more room from that but I still wanted more so I started looking for a tilt column. Steve Rupp had a brushed aluminum ididit one for sale and I bought it from him and as always what a pleasure to do business with him. Called up ididit and ordered their steering wheel adapter and new rag joint. Got the order and the rag joint was wrong (my fault, counted the splines wrong) sent back the wrong one and am waiting on the new one to come back. Did a quick mock up with the column and with the tilt feature I think this room issue will be resolved all together.

So being that I can’t leave anything alone. I talked to Timmy the other day and we talked about starting the paint process over the winter..so he came over last Sunday and we pulled the whole front end apart so he could take the front fenders and weld up the lower extension to the fenders to give the car a cleaner look. He is also going to get me the primer I need to lay on the car for the blocking..ect. I also ordered the semi-gloss hotrod black single stage that will cover all the interior panels, dash, whole engine compartment, and rear tail panel. So that will get started in the near future. There’s lots of scuffing/blocking and prep work to be done so if your around the area and want to lend a hand let me know. The beer and food are on me.

And for my last update ill let the last picture do the talking..haha..

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Old 11-09-2012 | 07:32 PM
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Man that car is sweet! I love the rear shot, fat *** tires tucked up nice! Nice stance for sure!

One question, the seam where the tail panel meets the quarter below the bumper, did you weld that seam solid or fill it?

Keep the pics coming!
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I was looking over your dyno sheet and it was impressive! I think the calculations may be off in your favor. You are laying down 549 at the wheels but the dyno only shows the engine producing 604. That means you are only losing 9.5% through the drivetrain. From what I understand to be correct, you should lose aprroximately 18% typical. With the 18% figured in you should be at 670fwhp. Either way this car should fly. I am at a measley 471rwhp/450ft-lbs and my car is almost too fast. Too bad we don't live overseas! It is hard trying to drive at the current speed limits.
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Man that car is sweet! I love the rear shot, fat *** tires tucked up nice! Nice stance for sure!

One question, the seam where the tail panel meets the quarter below the bumper, did you weld that seam solid or fill it?

Keep the pics coming!
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I was looking over your dyno sheet and it was impressive! I think the calculations may be off in your favor. You are laying down 549 at the wheels but the dyno only shows the engine producing 604. That means you are only losing 9.5% through the drivetrain. From what I understand to be correct, you should lose aprroximately 18% typical. With the 18% figured in you should be at 670fwhp. Either way this car should fly. I am at a measley 471rwhp/450ft-lbs and my car is almost too fast. Too bad we don't live overseas! It is hard trying to drive at the current speed limits.
Thanks man! I'd have to agree on the whole big meats and low stance look..haha but I may be partial. For the rear seam it was already welded when I bought the shell so I just left it. I like a cleaner look anyway. As far as the numbers are concerned it makes no difference to me either way. The car is way overpowered IMO.. It will light the tires up from a roll with no issues as Im sure yours does also. The thing is dumb fast..the driver needs to catch up..
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I would have to agree with you on honing the driving skills thing. I never thought I would have trouble controlling a vehicle under its own power, boy was I mistaken. I dont know if its me getting older or the car is getting faster. Best of luck keeping it between the lines!
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Tony,
I am sure its both. But more so with your stroked motor. LOL.


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