Project: Red Rocket Olds - S475 Turbo'd LY6/4L60e
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Yea...I gave up on the Olds engine after getting screwed over by too many folks. Had too much invested in one person until after 6 years of not getting my stuff I sold what I had and moved to LS.
I will build an Olds motor again some day but for right now...there is no turning back!!! I LOVE these things!
I have this build on ROP...some people like it...others immediately bitch...its ok. To each their own. Funny thing is Trovato goes LSX its cool....anyone else does, blasphemy!!!!
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These things make power plain and simple...the technology is lightyears ahead.
It doesn't replace the classics, but heavily compliments it in my opinion for what I want to accomplish.
Thanks again!!!
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Liking the direction change as well ![Grin](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_grin.gif)
Ya it can be a little rough on rop at times haha. dont plan on posting there if i go with a GN turbo 6 or LS. i'll post with a timeslip to show what some buick power can do though
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Ya it can be a little rough on rop at times haha. dont plan on posting there if i go with a GN turbo 6 or LS. i'll post with a timeslip to show what some buick power can do though
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Hey man,
Yea...I gave up on the Olds engine after getting screwed over by too many folks. Had too much invested in one person until after 6 years of not getting my stuff I sold what I had and moved to LS.
I will build an Olds motor again some day but for right now...there is no turning back!!! I LOVE these things!
I have this build on ROP...some people like it...others immediately bitch...its ok. To each their own. Funny thing is Trovato goes LSX its cool....anyone else does, blasphemy!!!!![The Judge](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_judge.gif)
These things make power plain and simple...the technology is lightyears ahead.
It doesn't replace the classics, but heavily compliments it in my opinion for what I want to accomplish.
Thanks again!!!![Chug! Chug! Chug!](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_chug.gif)
Dave
Yea...I gave up on the Olds engine after getting screwed over by too many folks. Had too much invested in one person until after 6 years of not getting my stuff I sold what I had and moved to LS.
I will build an Olds motor again some day but for right now...there is no turning back!!! I LOVE these things!
I have this build on ROP...some people like it...others immediately bitch...its ok. To each their own. Funny thing is Trovato goes LSX its cool....anyone else does, blasphemy!!!!
![The Judge](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_judge.gif)
These things make power plain and simple...the technology is lightyears ahead.
It doesn't replace the classics, but heavily compliments it in my opinion for what I want to accomplish.
Thanks again!!!
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Dave
Good luck man, gonna be a bad *** build with that turbo.
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As promised...here are the pics and some discriptions. I still need to take a few of the PSI Conversion harness but this will wet your whistle...
This is a shot with the new intake installed. I am not thrilled with the purple fuel rails but they will do for now. Currently has LS3 42lb injectors right now...that will also change since it won't be enough. Also shows the two manifolds I plan to use - one driver's side truck manny flipped and a driver's side Fbody manny.
![](http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/Bandit79403Dave/1969%20Cutlass%20W31/IMG_9073.jpg)
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Next couple shots show the clearance on the truck manifold on the passenger side...its about a 1/4". I am thinking I will still pull the motor...again
...because I have to drill and tap the pan for the return fitting of the turbo. Driver's side F-body Manifold fits perfectly. I am still not 100% sure if I am going to bring the crossover under the pan between the sump and crossmember or back further under the bellhousing.
Passenger Manifold (Truck)
![](http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/Bandit79403Dave/1969%20Cutlass%20W31/IMG_9086.jpg)
Driver's Manifold (F-body)
![](http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/Bandit79403Dave/1969%20Cutlass%20W31/IMG_9080.jpg)
Crossover Clearance between Sump and Crossmember
![](http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/Bandit79403Dave/1969%20Cutlass%20W31/IMG_9081.jpg)
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Where I plan to put the return fitting for the turbo (I am thinking I may overfiill the pan with oil and let the positive pressure push the chips back out the pan...also work with the grease on the bit method.) This is just left of the balancer when viewed from the front.
![](http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/Bandit79403Dave/1969%20Cutlass%20W31/IMG_9083.jpg)
More to come...
This is a shot with the new intake installed. I am not thrilled with the purple fuel rails but they will do for now. Currently has LS3 42lb injectors right now...that will also change since it won't be enough. Also shows the two manifolds I plan to use - one driver's side truck manny flipped and a driver's side Fbody manny.
![](http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/Bandit79403Dave/1969%20Cutlass%20W31/IMG_9073.jpg)
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Next couple shots show the clearance on the truck manifold on the passenger side...its about a 1/4". I am thinking I will still pull the motor...again
![Bang Head](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_banghead.gif)
Passenger Manifold (Truck)
![](http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/Bandit79403Dave/1969%20Cutlass%20W31/IMG_9086.jpg)
Driver's Manifold (F-body)
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Crossover Clearance between Sump and Crossmember
![](http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/Bandit79403Dave/1969%20Cutlass%20W31/IMG_9081.jpg)
![](http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/Bandit79403Dave/1969%20Cutlass%20W31/IMG_9071.jpg)
Where I plan to put the return fitting for the turbo (I am thinking I may overfiill the pan with oil and let the positive pressure push the chips back out the pan...also work with the grease on the bit method.) This is just left of the balancer when viewed from the front.
![](http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/Bandit79403Dave/1969%20Cutlass%20W31/IMG_9083.jpg)
More to come...
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More updates...moving right along.
Here's a couple shots of the PSI harness laid in. Fits and looks fantastic!
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Here's some shots of the manifold I reworked this weekend to redirect the connecting flange so that it is more easily accessible and has the O2 sensor bung. So I basically did a "flange swap". Sliced and cleaned up the manifold and connecting portion and sealed the deal.
![](http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/Bandit79403Dave/1969%20Cutlass%20W31/IMG_9129.jpg)
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These guys when finished along with the mid and downpipe will be Black JETHOT coated. I am going to clean up the manifolds a little before I send them out because while I am happy with the welds, I am a little unhappy with their appearance. I did, however, want to make sure I got enough heat in them because I have a huge heatsink on one side and small pipe on the other.
These next shots show where the mid-pipe from the driver's side will go to keep it up near the frame but minimize the length disparity between passenger and driver's side feedpipes.
![](http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/Bandit79403Dave/1969%20Cutlass%20W31/IMG_9138.jpg)
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Finally, its Christmas Monday! Jon form PSI got me a real nice deal on a Lingenfelter 100mm MAF and the Lingenfelter Reluctor conversion box...oh yea and he shot me a reflashed PCM so I can get this pig growling sooner!
![](http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/Bandit79403Dave/1969%20Cutlass%20W31/IMG_9102.jpg)
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More to come!!! Thanks!
Dave
Here's a couple shots of the PSI harness laid in. Fits and looks fantastic!
![](http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/Bandit79403Dave/1969%20Cutlass%20W31/IMG_9139.jpg)
![](http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/Bandit79403Dave/1969%20Cutlass%20W31/IMG_9140.jpg)
Here's some shots of the manifold I reworked this weekend to redirect the connecting flange so that it is more easily accessible and has the O2 sensor bung. So I basically did a "flange swap". Sliced and cleaned up the manifold and connecting portion and sealed the deal.
![](http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/Bandit79403Dave/1969%20Cutlass%20W31/IMG_9129.jpg)
![](http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/Bandit79403Dave/1969%20Cutlass%20W31/IMG_9130.jpg)
![](http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/Bandit79403Dave/1969%20Cutlass%20W31/IMG_9134.jpg)
![](http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/Bandit79403Dave/1969%20Cutlass%20W31/IMG_9135.jpg)
These guys when finished along with the mid and downpipe will be Black JETHOT coated. I am going to clean up the manifolds a little before I send them out because while I am happy with the welds, I am a little unhappy with their appearance. I did, however, want to make sure I got enough heat in them because I have a huge heatsink on one side and small pipe on the other.
These next shots show where the mid-pipe from the driver's side will go to keep it up near the frame but minimize the length disparity between passenger and driver's side feedpipes.
![](http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/Bandit79403Dave/1969%20Cutlass%20W31/IMG_9138.jpg)
![](http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/Bandit79403Dave/1969%20Cutlass%20W31/IMG_9136.jpg)
Finally, its Christmas Monday! Jon form PSI got me a real nice deal on a Lingenfelter 100mm MAF and the Lingenfelter Reluctor conversion box...oh yea and he shot me a reflashed PCM so I can get this pig growling sooner!
![](http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/Bandit79403Dave/1969%20Cutlass%20W31/IMG_9102.jpg)
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More to come!!! Thanks!
Dave
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Thanks man...
Upon further review I realized something today...I REALLY hate the way the manifold looks...everything I am doing on this build is supposed to be exactly how I want it and I compromised with the passenger side. I went out and literally stared at it like a moron for 10 straight minutes and said nothing.
I then walked into the house got onto the computer and ordered this:
![](http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h232/rackerman62583/Nova%20ls1%20conversion/photo6-1.jpg)
A Speedway Motors LS1 header kit...I didn't like the fact I couldn't bring the midpipe around front of the motor with manifolds and didn't like the way the C6 manis looked flipped. SOOOO...this will be at my door shortly and I will have headers by this weekend ('cause I accidentally took off from work Friday!!! )
They will look a lot like this when they are done:
My midpipe will be shaped a little differently, however.
Lots more to come!
Dave
Upon further review I realized something today...I REALLY hate the way the manifold looks...everything I am doing on this build is supposed to be exactly how I want it and I compromised with the passenger side. I went out and literally stared at it like a moron for 10 straight minutes and said nothing.
I then walked into the house got onto the computer and ordered this:
![](http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h232/rackerman62583/Nova%20ls1%20conversion/photo6-1.jpg)
A Speedway Motors LS1 header kit...I didn't like the fact I couldn't bring the midpipe around front of the motor with manifolds and didn't like the way the C6 manis looked flipped. SOOOO...this will be at my door shortly and I will have headers by this weekend ('cause I accidentally took off from work Friday!!! )
They will look a lot like this when they are done:
![](http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h232/rackerman62583/Nova%20ls1%20conversion/photo4-2.jpg)
My midpipe will be shaped a little differently, however.
Lots more to come!
Dave
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All righty! Got some updates for ya! After several days of mocking up the tubular headers I found I just couldn't get everything to fit properly in the engine compartment and not risk burning the inner wheel wells. I decided to go back to the truck manifold and the Fbody Manifold - a lot less risk of cracking and I have made some excellent progress this weekend.
I made the passenger intermediate pipe and began the driver's side mid-pipe...I am a little further ahead than what the pictures show but this gives you a good idea what I am talking about...
These pics show the passenger side midpipe leading up to the fully-divided T6 flange. I will be taking two smaller sizes tubes off each pipe for the wastegate soon.
![](http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/Bandit79403Dave/1969%20Cutlass%20W31/IMG_9190.jpg)
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More to come soon!
Dave
I made the passenger intermediate pipe and began the driver's side mid-pipe...I am a little further ahead than what the pictures show but this gives you a good idea what I am talking about...
These pics show the passenger side midpipe leading up to the fully-divided T6 flange. I will be taking two smaller sizes tubes off each pipe for the wastegate soon.
![](http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/Bandit79403Dave/1969%20Cutlass%20W31/IMG_9190.jpg)
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Been a while since an update...definitely been busy with work and my grandmother's health has taken a turn for the worse so there hasn't been much time to play.
Anyhow, I got out to the garage this afternoon and got back to work on the midpipe and basically finished the crossover pipe from the driver's side. Lots of twists and bend and while I am not totally happy with it, it isn't bad for my first attempt at it. I really need to invest in some better cutting tools so I can get cleaner cuts...........and maybe a TIG.
What I got left:
- Intercooler and coldside piping
- Need to get a ministarter
- Bigger injectors
- Finish wiring
- Driveshaft
- Downpipe fabrication
- Wastegate and BOV purchasing and fabrication - currently going with two Tial 38mm but I am not sure I will have the room for both of them, would like to keep them fully divided.
- Throttle Body purchasing and possibly a slightly less angled Intake Elbow to bring the intake over the driver's side valve cover...will give me room for WGs in front of engine.
- Finish exhaust
- Install Vaporworx tank and plumb fuel system....
Dayum....lot more to do now that i wrote it down...lol
Anyway...here's some pics...
Here's the crossover pipe from the driver's side manny and the route it takes to get there. It will be ceramic coated and wrapped.
![](http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/Bandit79403Dave/1969%20Cutlass%20W31/IMG_9270.jpg)
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More to come soon!!!
Anyhow, I got out to the garage this afternoon and got back to work on the midpipe and basically finished the crossover pipe from the driver's side. Lots of twists and bend and while I am not totally happy with it, it isn't bad for my first attempt at it. I really need to invest in some better cutting tools so I can get cleaner cuts...........and maybe a TIG.
What I got left:
- Intercooler and coldside piping
- Need to get a ministarter
- Bigger injectors
- Finish wiring
- Driveshaft
- Downpipe fabrication
- Wastegate and BOV purchasing and fabrication - currently going with two Tial 38mm but I am not sure I will have the room for both of them, would like to keep them fully divided.
- Throttle Body purchasing and possibly a slightly less angled Intake Elbow to bring the intake over the driver's side valve cover...will give me room for WGs in front of engine.
- Finish exhaust
- Install Vaporworx tank and plumb fuel system....
Dayum....lot more to do now that i wrote it down...lol
Anyway...here's some pics...
Here's the crossover pipe from the driver's side manny and the route it takes to get there. It will be ceramic coated and wrapped.
![](http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac289/Bandit79403Dave/1969%20Cutlass%20W31/IMG_9270.jpg)
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Thanks man! I am struggling right now on where I want to put the wastegates. Originally wanted to run two separate 38mm but I am honestly low on space unless I can turn the intake tube to go over the driver's side valve cover. I am looking into that now.
Thanks again!
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I will inch it up to a max of about 8psi. I gotta remember the cam in this thing is pretty stout to begin with so on top of that I am also boosting.
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Should be interesting that is for sure!
Dave