Aluminum 5.3 block engines
#21
I am sorry, but you are wrong, partially. You are correct that the L33 is a high performance 5.3 and is an aluminum block variant of the GEN lll LM7 5.3. Thus, it will have the cam sensor on the back just behind the valley cover. BUT! GM did build 5.3 GEN lV's in 2005 as evidenced by my friend's which in fact came out of an '05 Tahoe (he got it with the vin #'s. Here is a quote from the Dec.2009 issue of Chevy High Performance "GM began phasing in GEN lV 5.3L's in '05 with the launch of the all-aluminum LH6, which replaced the LM4 in MIDSIZED SUV's." My friend's engine is all-aluminum, flat top piston (we had the heads off) #799 heads, GEN lV. Sorry, I didn't check the cam timing, but it was/is rated 310 hp. To the best of my knowledge, they were equipped with the DOD hardware, although I understand that in most if not all cases, it was not set up (wired) to operate. It also a 24 tooth reluctor engine.
First introduced in 2005, the Generation IV Vortec 5300 engines share all the improvements and refinements found in other Generation IV engines. At present, four versions of the 5300 are in production: 2 iron block versions (LY5 and LMG) and 2 aluminum block versions (LH6 and LC9). All versions feature the Active Fuel Management system.
[edit] LH6
The LH6 with Active Fuel Management replaced the LM4 for 2005, and was the first of the Generation IV small block V8 truck engines to go into production. It is the aluminum block counterpart to the LY5.
LH6 applications:
2004–2009 Chevrolet TrailBlazer including EXT (through 2006)
2005–2009 GMC Envoy Denali
2005–2006 GMC Envoy XL
2005 GMC Envoy XUV
2005–2007 Buick Rainier
2005–2009 Saab 9-7X
2007 Chevrolet Silverado 1500
2007 GMC Sierra 1500
L33
The L33 (VIN code "B") is an aluminum block version of the LM7, and was referred to as the Vortec 5300 HO in marketing materials. Power increased by 15 hp (11 kW), to 310 hp (230 kW), over the LM7, and torque was unchanged. It was only available on extended cab 4WD pickup trucks. Only 25% of trucks made in 2005 had the L33 engine.
L33 applications:
2005–2007 Chevrolet Silverado 1500 4WD
2005–2007 GMC Sierra 1500 4WD
#22
Thank you for the correction, I was unaware. Do you know what vin code the LH6 is?
First introduced in 2005, the Generation IV Vortec 5300 engines share all the improvements and refinements found in other Generation IV engines. At present, four versions of the 5300 are in production: 2 iron block versions (LY5 and LMG) and 2 aluminum block versions (LH6 and LC9). All versions feature the Active Fuel Management system.
[edit] LH6
The LH6 with Active Fuel Management replaced the LM4 for 2005, and was the first of the Generation IV small block V8 truck engines to go into production. It is the aluminum block counterpart to the LY5.
LH6 applications:
2004–2009 Chevrolet TrailBlazer including EXT (through 2006)
2005–2009 GMC Envoy Denali
2005–2006 GMC Envoy XL
2005 GMC Envoy XUV
2005–2007 Buick Rainier
2005–2009 Saab 9-7X
2007 Chevrolet Silverado 1500
2007 GMC Sierra 1500
L33
The L33 (VIN code "B") is an aluminum block version of the LM7, and was referred to as the Vortec 5300 HO in marketing materials. Power increased by 15 hp (11 kW), to 310 hp (230 kW), over the LM7, and torque was unchanged. It was only available on extended cab 4WD pickup trucks. Only 25% of trucks made in 2005 had the L33 engine.
L33 applications:
2005–2007 Chevrolet Silverado 1500 4WD
2005–2007 GMC Sierra 1500 4WD
First introduced in 2005, the Generation IV Vortec 5300 engines share all the improvements and refinements found in other Generation IV engines. At present, four versions of the 5300 are in production: 2 iron block versions (LY5 and LMG) and 2 aluminum block versions (LH6 and LC9). All versions feature the Active Fuel Management system.
[edit] LH6
The LH6 with Active Fuel Management replaced the LM4 for 2005, and was the first of the Generation IV small block V8 truck engines to go into production. It is the aluminum block counterpart to the LY5.
LH6 applications:
2004–2009 Chevrolet TrailBlazer including EXT (through 2006)
2005–2009 GMC Envoy Denali
2005–2006 GMC Envoy XL
2005 GMC Envoy XUV
2005–2007 Buick Rainier
2005–2009 Saab 9-7X
2007 Chevrolet Silverado 1500
2007 GMC Sierra 1500
L33
The L33 (VIN code "B") is an aluminum block version of the LM7, and was referred to as the Vortec 5300 HO in marketing materials. Power increased by 15 hp (11 kW), to 310 hp (230 kW), over the LM7, and torque was unchanged. It was only available on extended cab 4WD pickup trucks. Only 25% of trucks made in 2005 had the L33 engine.
L33 applications:
2005–2007 Chevrolet Silverado 1500 4WD
2005–2007 GMC Sierra 1500 4WD
#23
No, they both have flat top pistons. As rojs234 said, check the timing cover. If the cover is plain with no sensor it is GenIII. If there is a sensor it is GenIV. Post pics of your timing cover if you can.
#24
If it's an aluminum block, as noted in the title of this thread, it's an L33. Please post a pic of the crank & cam sensor & a pick looking @ the front of the engine. Really doesn't matter what PCM or wiring you use. What's important is that the PCM, wiring & sensors are a match. Hell, you could put 98 sensors in that thing & use a 98 PCM & wiring harness if you wanted to (with a new tune); as long as, the reluctor is the 24 tooth that has been discussed.
If you want to match the PCM & wiring to the specific model year's engine that you bought, we're gonna need to see the pics. Although, it looks like any of the 05-07 Sierra or Silverado PCM & harnesses are a match for your engine.
If you want to match the PCM & wiring to the specific model year's engine that you bought, we're gonna need to see the pics. Although, it looks like any of the 05-07 Sierra or Silverado PCM & harnesses are a match for your engine.
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If it's an aluminum block, as noted in the title of this thread, it's an L33. Please post a pic of the crank & cam sensor & a pick looking @ the front of the engine. Really doesn't matter what PCM or wiring you use. What's important is that the PCM, wiring & sensors are a match. Hell, you could put 98 sensors in that thing & use a 98 PCM & wiring harness if you wanted to (with a new tune); as long as, the reluctor is the 24 tooth that has been discussed.
If you want to match the PCM & wiring to the specific model year's engine that you bought, we're gonna need to see the pics. Although, it looks like any of the 05-07 Sierra or Silverado PCM & harnesses are a match for your engine.
If you want to match the PCM & wiring to the specific model year's engine that you bought, we're gonna need to see the pics. Although, it looks like any of the 05-07 Sierra or Silverado PCM & harnesses are a match for your engine.
If it has knock sensors on the side of the block, then I believe you can safely assume that it is GenIV and has the 58 tooth reluctor. However, I am not 100% certain about that.
Andrew
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I am not so certain that all aluminum 5.3s are HOs. Keep in mind that the Trailblazers and its clones got the 5.3L as an option starting in 2004 or 2005. I had one and it had a 24 tooth reluctor and the knock sensors in the cam valley.
If it has knock sensors on the side of the block, then I believe you can safely assume that it is GenIV and has the 58 tooth reluctor. However, I am not 100% certain about that.
Andrew
If it has knock sensors on the side of the block, then I believe you can safely assume that it is GenIV and has the 58 tooth reluctor. However, I am not 100% certain about that.
Andrew
#28
posting pics
Probably cant post pics myself....but I will take them and send so somebodys email for all to see......just need an adress.......will take these pics in the AM
Its all a mystery........even the experts cant agree. but is all interesting so lets get some clarification!
Its all a mystery........even the experts cant agree. but is all interesting so lets get some clarification!
#32
gen IV
I read the complete breakdown on this engine. Pretty sophisticated for what I am using it for. Even four of the lifters are different. What do you do about all the extras you dont need like AFM and getting rid of the lifters or do you etc.
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As *COSTIGAN * said... cam sensor in timing cover, it's a GEN lV, and if it is 5.3, it has AFM ( DOD..displacement on demand). Most people delete the DOD to use in hot rod or engine swap applications. You still need to know if it is 24x or 58x reluctor. CHECK the color of the crank sensor plug!! No big deal.If you will type DOD delete in the box labeled "search" at the top of page, you can read lots of info about what you need to change to make these engines usable in most situations. We just recently did this to my friend's engine to use it in his '51 Ford pickup. I would be happy to answer questions you have on what is involved, but it would probably be better if you did the search first. Out of curiosity....are these new engines or do they have many , many miles on them. If two are for sale, do you have a price in mind yet and where in the country are you located?? While GEN lV all-aluminum 5.3's are desirable engines, it takes quite a bit of work and expense to make them usable in anything except their original use. Good luck! Ron
#35
Thanks
Very interesting.so I will do some searches......almost ready to put a carb on it and forget it
I bought three and they are gm surplus brand new. They had a spin test done on all three to make sure all specs were correct.
They are 2500.00 each and I have one for myself and sold one already. Have one left.
I bought three and they are gm surplus brand new. They had a spin test done on all three to make sure all specs were correct.
They are 2500.00 each and I have one for myself and sold one already. Have one left.
#36
While GEN lV all-aluminum 5.3's are desirable engines, it takes quite a bit of work and expense to make them usable in anything except their original use. Good luck! Ron[/QUOTE]
What do you consider quite a bit of expense? That only relates to HP per dollar I suppose or a persons own pocketbook.
These engines cost 2k a peiece and are guaranteed and could not find any brand new engine with an aluminum block for that kind of money.
What do you consider quite a bit of expense? That only relates to HP per dollar I suppose or a persons own pocketbook.
These engines cost 2k a peiece and are guaranteed and could not find any brand new engine with an aluminum block for that kind of money.
#37
we have kits to get you up and running, chesk out our Ebay page in my sig.
Our PCM and harness kit is $500!!! This would be a base cal and everything you need.
Check it out, we also have complete kits with fuel system upgrades.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/E482-...Q5fCarQ5fParts
Our PCM and harness kit is $500!!! This would be a base cal and everything you need.
Check it out, we also have complete kits with fuel system upgrades.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/E482-...Q5fCarQ5fParts
#39
Hey Thanks
we have kits to get you up and running, chesk out our Ebay page in my sig.
Our PCM and harness kit is $500!!! This would be a base cal and everything you need.
Check it out, we also have complete kits with fuel system upgrades.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/E482-...Q5fCarQ5fParts
Our PCM and harness kit is $500!!! This would be a base cal and everything you need.
Check it out, we also have complete kits with fuel system upgrades.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/E482-...Q5fCarQ5fParts
#40
Interesting thread. The motor I'm using in my '01 Jeep swap is an AL block GenIV LH6 5.3L pull out of an Envoy. It's an '05, so has the oddball E40 ECM, 24x sensor, knock sensors on sides of block, etc. I did swap the heads to TSP stg II and did a 224 cam swap before installing it. Also swapped out the goofy DOD lifters to traditionals. As said by someone else, all the DOD hardware was there, but disabled by GM via tune and lack of wiring harness to the oil passage solenoids. Apparently some silly issue with the exhaust tone in v4 mode and running out of time to figure it out is what I heard.