Bitter Sweet Day
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Bitter Sweet Day had a very bitter sweet day today. I have an 84 Regal that im swapping a 5.3/4L60E into. after many weeks of blood and swet and REALLY mean the blood part. i finally got to the point of putting in the key and turning this babay over. 1st crank had some spit and sputter and then it died. i waited a sec and crack 2 was the majic touch. this thing came alive with a very smooth idle and music to the ears. i let it idle about 6-7min and and yes the moment of true glory i sat in the car put that baby in reverse and NOTHING!! i put it in drive and NOTHING again. checked fluids thinking i put in 5 qrts so its still low lets go for more and the dip stick reads perfect. pulled the trans line to the rad and bone dry. is there a procedure im supposed to do to prime the trans pump?? i'm sure no super mechanic but i have done a trans or 2 before.
when i bought the trans the guy i got it from said it had been rebuilt and never installed becouse he had decided to go manual instead. im starting to think he got me
ANY input is welcome.
when i bought the trans the guy i got it from said it had been rebuilt and never installed becouse he had decided to go manual instead. im starting to think he got me
ANY input is welcome.
I would pull the pan, verify the filter is in place, verify the torque converter bolts, if your still stumped, pull the trans and make sure the converter is in all the way. I read on here, someone else did not put the converter in all the way and damaged the pump.
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Verdad Gallardo same scenario for me. unknown 4l80e that i transgoed. 85'regal lq4 turbo build with big injectors. hit the key and bam lit right up. after days of idle tuning i went to throw it in reverse and nothin'. after a gallon of atf it works mint. i wish you luck regal brother.
You may have broken the transmission pump.. if you keep filling it and nothing happens, pull the trans, pull the converter and look at the square drives in the front of the trans. if they're gone, you need a new pump.
If you didnt seat the converter in the pump it will break the ears off the pump almost immediately. Its not an uncommon thing to happen.
x3 I've actually done it before. When I was younger and didn't know better. You really got to wiggle and lift and spin the torque converter and make sure it seats all the way in. If not youll notice a gap in the motor/bell housing and youll snug it up anyway and... POP! No more pump....
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i gave this another try and no luck. it looks like the trans is comming out. Here are the new questions of the day.
1. is the trans pump a relativily inexpensive and easy fix for a novice?
2. i was looking thru the LS1 Classified and looks like most guys are selling 4L60Es for about $300-$400. should i just try to pick up another one?????
1. is the trans pump a relativily inexpensive and easy fix for a novice?
2. i was looking thru the LS1 Classified and looks like most guys are selling 4L60Es for about $300-$400. should i just try to pick up another one?????
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i gave this another try and no luck. it looks like the trans is comming out. Here are the new questions of the day.
1. is the trans pump a relativily inexpensive and easy fix for a novice?
2. i was looking thru the LS1 Classified and looks like most guys are selling 4L60Es for about $300-$400. should i just try to pick up another one?????
1. is the trans pump a relativily inexpensive and easy fix for a novice?
2. i was looking thru the LS1 Classified and looks like most guys are selling 4L60Es for about $300-$400. should i just try to pick up another one?????
1-kick yourself in the ***
2-never do this again
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I'm not sure if this has any relavince or not but should be hooking up any wires to the switch on the passenger side? i'm assuming i get my Nuetral safety switch from but.......
not sure about 60s but uuhhh yeah. you still kept this fuel injected right? i would think the pcm would want gear position. you did plug in the vss and the big round connector right. and when you bolted the tranny up do you remember if you had to slide the converter up to meet the fly wheel or was it just smashed together.?
even if the PRNDL switch is totally unplugged you will still get 3rd and rev hydraulicly. I would say that you probably didn't seat the torque converter all the way and as soon as it fired it shattered the front pump ring. very common mistake. But make sure you have enough fluid in it first. It will take anywhere from 5 qts (if just the pan was dropped) to 14 qts (dry converter and trans after rebuild). also if the filter isnt in or seated it wont move. or pump any fluid.
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I kept the complete FI. runs VERY nice. i did hook up the round connector and the VSS connecter thats just past the round one. Im hoping to get some wrnech time in tonight and get the trans out. i guess i'll take it from there. ill keep every one posted.
Thanks for all for the input!!
Thanks for all for the input!!