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Old 06-04-2012, 10:15 PM
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they would be great if they just werent so pricey
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Originally Posted by LS102ws6
they would be great if they just werent so pricey
Still cheaper than an aftermarket speedo and assorted mounting hardware and then have to look at that when the perfectly working mech speedo is hiding behind it, unused.
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Originally Posted by jbsjunk
It was mentioned as a suggestion a few pages ago, is there going to be some sort of 5v output for a speed sensor built into your box? The reason I'm asking is the Jeep I'm building has a cable drive and the new electronic speed sensor needs a 5v input to function. I can get 5v regulators at Radio Shack but if it's going to be built into your system that will be one less stop on my parts gathering trip.
Sorry, no. There is a 5v power supply on the unit which is designed around the operating requirements of the microcontroller we're using. I could put a 5v power takeoff on the unit, but I can't know the current draw and other particulars of what anyone might plug in to it, including your sensor. In order to satisfy a requirement like this without affecting the brain, I'd really have to add in a separate 5v power supply.
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Going back to the cost of this thing, this seems to be a refinded cable X, takes the only part that fails (cable) out of the system. To think it will be better and cheaper seems a little unreal, I would expect that the $150 they started at is closer to their cost not our cost. Keep after it Guys, we all hope it works out.
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Many hall effect, ie 3 wire speed sensors are tolerant of a 12v power supply. So a dedicated 5v supply for them isnt always essential.
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My Tom Tom GPS that was $99 4 years ago had my MPH on it. Done.
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Originally Posted by 67Skylark
Going back to the cost of this thing, this seems to be a refinded cable X, takes the only part that fails (cable) out of the system. To think it will be better and cheaper seems a little unreal, I would expect that the $150 they started at is closer to their cost not our cost. Keep after it Guys, we all hope it works out.
if their goal is to create a more affordable solution, it WILL NOT be 350 dollars of the cable x
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Gentlemen,
I have been following your work with interest. I am British, living in Lincolnshire U.K. I am working on an old Lotus. I wish to retain as much of the original appearance whilst updating the car to make it more usable. I have changed the axle ratio and gearbox, and the only speedometer I can find has an LCD for the odometer. Your solution looks like it would solve my problem. Would you be able to to export to the U.k.?

Keep up the good work, and try to avoid being rushed.

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Hey Zipster,
You have yet another customer, waiting for your results. My 1951 cadillac wants your system once you get it ready for sale. I joined LS1Tech just for this (sorry I have a 1989 350 TBI system grafted into my caddy, not an LS) but at least it's still GM right, and related.... (don't hate , please ). I will love not having to use my cell phone to know how fast i'm going... And after the horror stories I've heard about cable-X and Classic Instruments wanted $2700 min to make my orginal speedo work on a modern electrical signal, I'm so so thrilled you are filling this needed void in the aftermarket world! Please let me know if you need any addtional info from me (once you're ready) for this. THANKS MAN!!!

1951 caddy series 62 with:
custom tuned 350, AFR 190 Vortec Heads, 283/CompCams-Thumpr roller conversion cam, disc front brakes, fresh wires thoughout, shift-kit'd TH400, 20" rims with nitto invo 245/45R20Z's. No power steering or power brakes... Still to come: winter quick change rearend and much, much more.
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Caddyman what transmission are you running?

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Hey Zipster,
You have yet another customer, waiting for your results. My 1951 cadillac wants your system once you get it ready for sale. I joined LS1Tech just for this (sorry I have a 1989 350 TBI system grafted into my caddy, not an LS) but at least it's still GM right, and related.... (don't hate , please ). I will love not having to use my cell phone to know how fast i'm going... And after the horror stories I've heard about cable-X and Classic Instruments wanted $2700 min to make my orginal speedo work on a modern electrical signal, I'm so so thrilled you are filling this needed void in the aftermarket world! Please let me know if you need any addtional info from me (once you're ready) for this. THANKS MAN!!!

1951 caddy series 62 with:
custom tuned 350, AFR 190 Vortec Heads, 283/CompCams-Thumpr roller conversion cam, disc front brakes, fresh wires thoughout, shift-kit'd TH400, 20" rims with nitto invo 245/45R20Z's. No power steering or power brakes... Still to come: winter quick change rearend and much, much more.
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Originally Posted by thenova70ss
Caddyman what transmission are you running?
Curious about this too, in his second paragraph he says he's running a 400turbo. If he's using one with a VSS, I'd think it would be easier to just put speedo grears in it and use a VSS hooked to it.
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Originally Posted by ls1nova71
Curious about this too, in his second paragraph he says he's running a 400turbo. If he's using one with a VSS, I'd think it would be easier to just put speedo grears in it and use a VSS hooked to it.
Thats what i was thinking. The 400turbo would not need the VSS to work his Speedo all he would need is the right gears to make his speedo right and working.
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I am in for a unit when complete. Keep up the good work.

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Hey guys,
Yep it's a TH400, however, I plan on running a winter's QC rearend, so I want my speedo to be re-adjustable. For road trips she's going to be in the high 2's where as normal driving prob 3.73, and when I want to take her out and find some "trouble" she'll be running 5.14's. Also for my final build for her, I'm still thinking of going with a TKO 5 speed. Nothing says ratty rod like slammin' those gears.

oh and Yep she's a VSS not mechanical. And oddly enough the 1951 speedo hookup looks like the nornal style plug on the back as all the other GM mechanical speedo hookups. Got to love GM, find a design that works and keep it.

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Originally Posted by 51caddyman
Hey guys,
Yep it's a TH400, however, I plan on running a winter's QC rearend, so I want my speedo to be re-adjustable. For road trips she's going to be in the high 2's where as normal driving prob 3.73, and when I want to take her out and find some "trouble" she'll be running 5.14's. Also for my final build for her, I'm still thinking of going with a TKO 5 speed. Nothing says ratty rod like slammin' those gears.

oh and Yep she's a VSS not mechanical. And oddly enough the 1951 speedo hookup looks like the nornal style plug on the back as all the other GM mechanical speedo hookups. Got to love GM, find a design that works and keep it.
OK, I kind of see your theory now. But I was under the impression that this speedo drive was going to be set to use a 4k ppm input, and not be adjustable like the Cable-X, so are you going to be swapping chips in your TBI ECM?
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Hey LS1Nova71,
Per the posts in this string #62-#72 (page #4) Zipster stated that this was going to have a calibration mode, and DBSJUNK's Jeep XJ with the TH350 and NP231 (I think on the T/C from the photo) T/C seems to have the same style VSS output, so, per Zipster on post# 72 "The vss sensor you have should work perfectly. Our controller will supply the 5V signal you need."
unless I'm missing something here... My TBI system is flash-able/tunable via my tuning guru's laptop pc (seeing the cam I have doesn't play well with the stock EFI tune from GM anyways). Let me know if I'm missing the boat here. Thanks!
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Ok, let me see if I can clear this up or cloud things even more. The sensor on the T/Cs jeep has a vss, now if I know what pulse that has,(2k ppm, 4kppm, 12kppm 20kppm etc, etc) and supply it a 5volt signal we can make it work. But, you will not be able to change the ppm. We need to change the program in the speedo controller to be correct for your vss pulse.

The calibration mode is for calibrating the speedo ZDrive to your speedo face. Example, my speedo is a circle and has something like a 270 degree sweep. Now the speedo from the 67 Skylark has a 100 degree sweep. So, the ZDrive needs to know where 20mph and 80mph are in relation to the motor speed. This calibration can be changed and re calibrated any time.

Calibration happens in under 1 minute, sitting still in your driveway.
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Is this going to work for the 4l60E?
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Originally Posted by Killer66
Is this going to work for the 4l60E?
YES


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