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Old Oct 24, 2011 | 11:28 PM
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If you do an os swap to an 02 system you can work on a single ve, but I have done a many with the primary and backup ve table. Truck should scoot.
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Old Oct 24, 2011 | 11:30 PM
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Yup..found them on there..$60 later..

I'm going to look at some door panels tomorrow, so we will see what I come up with.



It's near the primary VE Table box..right next to it.

I'm using a 1999 F-body PCM on the S10, the MCSS has a 2002 PCM, doesnt have this second table..so IDK..lol..
Ha, ha, ha!!! That explains why I can't find it! I have a 2002 PCM in the Thunderbird right now and that's the one I was looking at. I'll have to look at some of my older PCM tunes and see if it's there.
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Old Oct 24, 2011 | 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Rhino79
If you do an os swap to an 02 system you can work on a single ve, but I have done a many with the primary and backup ve table. Truck should scoot.
I didnt have any trouble doin it with both..just have to make them match..took a sec to figure out tho..lol.

I took it for the first WOT stab from a stop earlier..Street tires..so it spun but not too bad, I countered it and still held it about 90% on the floor...it was sideways till 75..dead hook in 3rd.

It's one of them things that will make your *** pucker..the *** end is drifting sideways and the front end is spongy too cause of weight transfer..on Radials the front is going to be really soft..looks like the Caltracs are working..
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Old Oct 24, 2011 | 11:55 PM
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Bring that baby to memphis thursday! Im going for a 12 sec slip hopefully with the SS
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Old Oct 24, 2011 | 11:58 PM
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That's actually not a bad idea..I have a set of Drag Radials to kill so I can put the 28's on them for the MCSS..

I might have to do that..it'll help to dial in the WOT tables too..
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Old Oct 25, 2011 | 12:07 AM
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Ill run ya, you outta slaughter me but I'm game...lol. I plan on rollin out of cowbut at 4 or so
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Old Oct 25, 2011 | 12:13 AM
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Cowbut?..where is that..lol..

I'll be loaded up and rollin out by 330..that way I get there early and make a few runs to tune it.

I'm shooting for high 11's..

Is thursday the last TNT for there?

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Old Oct 25, 2011 | 11:00 AM
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I just got the tune dialed in partially..weighed it too. 2860 on Radials, full tank of gas.

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Old Oct 25, 2011 | 12:03 PM
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damn that thing is light!
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Old Oct 25, 2011 | 09:16 PM
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I drove it 300 miles today to get parts..it's gettin 25+mpg avg..
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Old Oct 26, 2011 | 12:17 AM
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I drove it 300 miles today to get parts..it's gettin 25+mpg avg..
With or without your heavy foot?
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Old Oct 26, 2011 | 01:22 AM
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Kinda both really..I did a few WOT pulls to dial in the top-end. 3rd gear rolls the **** out hard..it's kinda suprising..

I'm really interested to see what it gets just normal driving around on the street setup when I start DD'n it. I'm bolting up them Camaro wheels with brand new tires on them for street duty..Cooper Cobra size 235/60R15..that shouldnt look too bad..
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Old Oct 26, 2011 | 03:09 AM
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Na..been working on the Tune and just got it..

The new HP Tuners Beta 2.23 has a secondary VE Table and when you turn the MAF off it reverts to that second table..had me stumped and frustrated for a min till I found it and now it's dialing in nicely. The key with that is make both VE Tables the same value..then when you have your corrections apply them to the main table and copy them to the second table.
Only in certain operating systems. Its not HP Tuners that has the table, it's the GM software that HPT now has access to.

If you build a histogram to tune the VE tables you have to remember to log the corrections in both the primary VE and secondary VE tables and make changes to both.

It interpolates the two but not 50/50, so for example if you make a 10% change to the primary table, you dont want to make a 10% change to the secondary as well. You want to use the histogram error / correction value and apply the percentage change that the computer is correcting to each table separately.

Good work Merv. Love the truck, been wanting to do this for a long time and now I really want one.
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Old Oct 26, 2011 | 03:15 AM
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Merv you are gonna kill that 60 with those types of burnouts. It is much easier to just hold second and do the burnout all in one gear.
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Old Oct 26, 2011 | 09:48 AM
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Nice calling the cops last night.... Kinda like your own way of backing down huh?
All cause ya scared of a lil ole 3fifty.. haha you're worthless and that truck wont be on the streets long til ya put it in the ditch like ur last TWO camaros
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Old Oct 26, 2011 | 10:45 AM
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Dont even start this **** here..you all been talkin crap for ever, I said bring it on out thursday to Memphis..you all backed down and then wanted to turn it to an ***-whoopin contest over here at my house..your brother has a big mouth, you dont threaten me and threaten to come over and mess up my stuff at MY house.

Keep your distance from my place before you and your brother have a serious problem on your hands.

I'm by far scared of a pos 350 SBC with dumbass-engineering. You want to race drag your piece of **** out to Memphis and try your luck, put up or shut up. There is no backing down here on my end..everyone here will agree that what I just said is the total opposite from backing down.

I have an appt at the track and you are more than welcome to show up and get your truck stomped by the S10..no need to even bring out the MCSS on this one.

You afraid of a little 346 Aluminum LS1?

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If you build a histogram to tune the VE tables you have to remember to log the corrections in both the primary VE and secondary VE tables and make changes to both.
I said that..lol..
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Old Oct 26, 2011 | 11:03 AM
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You ******* backed down earlier that day when I had ******* daylight to simply adjust my floats... You and your *** friend on my f/b seen my status saying i had work to do and you started ya little drama! This all started as a ******* race on the street now you're scared wanting me to come to memphis cause ya know i don't have a tow truck.. Loser back out...
And as for last night it was a typical "merv" night!!! You txt me and my brother acting tough calling names saying come over and get our *** whooped....
When we said okay whoop our *** you called the cops like a bitch... It's what ya do, start **** then call the cops... LOSER
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Old Oct 26, 2011 | 11:53 AM
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You are trash man..you got caught runnin your mouth..got called out, and then you wanted to turn it into some stupid ****.

It's that simple, and never got farther then this ****, ever..

If you are serious about racing you'd drive it out to Memphis..since you claim it to be a daily driver then there should be no problems?

I'l be posting up timeslips tomorrow..what will you be posting besides excuses and junk?
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Old Oct 26, 2011 | 11:59 AM
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I'm up for a street run! I get home at 6.30, ill run from a dig or whatever. Looks like Memphis is going to be rained out so I need to run somebody lol. I'm game. I can be pmed here or arrides! My car is a heavy pig, wish I weighed in at 2800. My **** is about 3800 without me........
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Old Oct 26, 2011 | 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Rhino79
I'm up for a street run! I get home at 6.30, ill run from a dig or whatever. Looks like Memphis is going to be rained out so I need to run somebody lol. I'm game. I can be pmed here or arrides! My car is a heavy pig, wish I weighed in at 2800. My **** is about 3800 without me........
im down to run Ryan! @ hogwild, DUDE just go to the track!! And merv said he would race u along *** time ago and you boohoo'd about slicks.
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