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Old Nov 19, 2012 | 09:19 AM
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Okay guys. I'm sticking my 370 lq9 in a s13 240sx . However, I'm having a bit of trouble deciding which route would be the best as far as the engine. I'm almost positive i'm going with the 233/239 cam from Texas Speed on a 114 lsa. I'm in the process of getting rid of the 317's and swaping on a pair of ls3 heads(stock valves, unported, dual valve springs etc.).

For starters, my question is: Will the stock ls3 intake and injectors/fuel rail support this cam/engine set up? I'm not looking to squeeze out hp numbers (since the car weighs about 2500lbs I'm not really too concerned) but I don't want to unnecessarily inhibit anything here.

Also, care to chime in on the cam selection or any potential problems you can see with this set up if you'd like! I'd like all the feedback I can get.
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Old Nov 19, 2012 | 05:26 PM
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Get pat g to make u a cam.
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Old Nov 19, 2012 | 08:19 PM
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Yes the stock LS3 intake/rails/injectors will be fine.
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Old Nov 19, 2012 | 10:20 PM
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I have the same intake/heads with a huge cam and no issues so you should be good to go.
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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 12:15 PM
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I have the same intake/heads with a huge cam and no issues so you should be good to go.
Well that's good news! The engine is a 2009. Am I going to need to do anything special with the swap as far as the reluctor wheel is concerned? Or does the wiring harness I use make the difference? I planned on using a 99+ computer and wiring harness from an F body and modifying it as needed..
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Old Nov 23, 2012 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Brian'sCharlotte(TA)
Well that's good news! The engine is a 2009. Am I going to need to do anything special with the swap as far as the reluctor wheel is concerned? Or does the wiring harness I use make the difference? I planned on using a 99+ computer and wiring harness from an F body and modifying it as needed..
Yes you will need the conversion box or you will need to have the wheel changed.. I'd do the box
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Old Nov 23, 2012 | 12:25 PM
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You may want to double check that engine. I dont think the LQ9 was made in 09. If it actually is an LQ9, it may very well be a 24x reluctor.
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Old Nov 26, 2012 | 06:53 AM
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You may want to double check that engine. I dont think the LQ9 was made in 09. If it actually is an LQ9, it may very well be a 24x reluctor.
Damn that's a good point. I never thought of that.. The guy I bought it from just called it that and since it was a 6.0 I never thought to think otherwise. The code on the metal plaque thing says GMC so this must be a from a Sierra/yukon? I'll attach the file of the plaque. Does anyone have a link to specs of the engine? Or know the reluctor wheel that these have? I have found some info but not very much. I'm now assuming this is a gen IV engine... Any help would be appreciated.
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Old Nov 26, 2012 | 07:05 AM
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The color of the crank sensor will tell if its 58 or 24x.
The timing chain cover will indicate if it has VVT.
If it is an iron block, 6.0, 58x, with a large valve cover, it's probably an LY6.
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Old Nov 26, 2012 | 07:29 AM
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Okay, I'll have to bust the cover off and have a peek. I'm assuming black is 24x and white is 58?
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Old Nov 26, 2012 | 08:24 AM
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The crank sensor is down by the starter, it will be black or grey.
The timing cover for VVT, sticks out almost an inch more.
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Old Nov 27, 2012 | 03:52 PM
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Okay, I checked the sensor and it's black. The engine has 317's bolted up and I saw it running with those heads before I bought it. Not sure why I just thought of that.. So I'm fairly sure it's a 24x wheel. Looks like I'll be running a conversion box with the heads
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Old Nov 28, 2012 | 12:45 AM
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If it's a black crank sensor, it's pre 07 24X reluctor motor. No conversion box needed for 99 ecu with LS3 heads and injectors.
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Old Nov 29, 2012 | 02:08 AM
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LY6 comes factory with the rectangle port Heads I beleive....


These Heads like to flow a ton of air and its nice to see they have been out long enough to start having nice cams out for them.
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Old Nov 29, 2012 | 02:17 AM
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Stock intake works almost as good as a FAST, not worth the swap unless you're wanting every drop out of it.

Is it an iron or aluminum block?

Didn't Ly6 come with L92 heads?

If it is aluminum and 317 heads, I don't think they made a combination like that from the factory, I could be wrong though.

Check my build thread for my setup.
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Old Nov 29, 2012 | 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by lemons12
Stock intake works almost as good as a FAST, not worth the swap unless you're wanting every drop out of it.

Is it an iron or aluminum block?

Didn't Ly6 come with L92 heads?

If it is aluminum and 317 heads, I don't think they made a combination like that from the factory, I could be wrong though.

Check my build thread for my setup.
Well, I bought the engine complete from a local dude. The block(I'm fairly positive it's iron because of the color) had been bored over.030 already.. He had it in a 1997 camaro running with these heads, so maybe he changed the wheel and sensor? I've been trying to ask him but he hasn't returned my email yet. He had it on craigslist as an lq9 (which I never questioned because of the 317's) but now I'm a little curious myself. I'm guessing if he had the block bored, it was disassembled and he just put it back together how he wanted.
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Old Nov 29, 2012 | 08:51 AM
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Sounds like a 24x LQ9 to me too.
It's just not an 09. The 2009 tag might have been put on when rebuilt. Neither of my motors had a tag like that from GM.
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Old Nov 29, 2012 | 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by garys 68
Sounds like a 24x LQ9 to me too.
It's just not an 09. The 2009 tag might have been put on when rebuilt. Neither of my motors had a tag like that from GM.
Really? I never thought of that. That would explain a lot...
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Old Nov 29, 2012 | 12:59 PM
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i have a lq9 in my truck would it be hard to do that swap to im think of some l92/l76 i have return fuel lines how would the ls3 intake work
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Old Nov 30, 2012 | 12:28 AM
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L76/LS3 car intake works fine with a LS2 Fuel Rail and the newer short car Injectors.
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