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Old Jan 3, 2013 | 08:45 PM
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1970 nova im doing a LS402 swap and have some questions please help,im using a manual steering box,my adaptor plates have 3 or 4 different positions to mount the motor.

Do kooks headers fit these cars good ?

I bought a Holley swap pan and it hits the subframe under the front to middle of the pan,like it needs atleast a 1/4" spacer between adaptor and motor mount ? What the hell is others that use this pan having this problem ?

Im wanting to do an alternator only no ps pump,with camaro accessories,what alternator bracket fits these cars the best ?

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1970 nova im doing a LS402 swap and have some questions please help,im using a manual steering box,my adaptor plates have 3 or 4 different positions to mount the motor.

Do kooks headers fit these cars good ?

I bought a Holley swap pan and it hits the subframe under the front to middle of the pan,like it needs atleast a 1/4" spacer between adaptor and motor mount ? What the hell is others that use this pan having this problem ?
On my 71 Nova, I am using the early Swap pan that Holley now markets, I am using Edelbrock headers (no longer made) and Edelbrock cloned 1+ setback Adapters. EnergySuspension Short and Wide Motos, Sandard Frame V8 mounts. And everything is find with the pan clearing the X-member.

It really comes down to what Adapter plates and Motor Mount combindation you are using. If you use something like the Hooker plates, the pan should clear. Mixing and Matching is always a crap shot.

If all else fails, yes you might need spacers. What plates are you using and have you tried the other locations ?.. Also, the farther back you move the engine, the less of a problem the Pan to Crossmember becomes. But Firewall and Trans tunnel will/might become one.


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Old Jan 3, 2013 | 10:40 PM
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On my 71 Nova, I am using the early Swap pan that Holley now markets, I am using Edelbrock headers (no longer made) and Edelbrock cloned 1+ setback Adapters. EnergySuspension Short and Wide Motos, Sandard Frame V8 mounts. And everything is find with the pan clearing the X-member.

It really comes down to what Adapter plates and Motor Mount combindation you are using. If you use something like the Hooker plates, the pan should clear. Mixing and Matching is always a crap shot.

If all else fails, yes you might need spacers. What plates are you using and have you tried the other locations ?.. Also, the farther back you move the engine, the less of a problem the Pan to Crossmember becomes. But Firewall and Trans tunnel will/might become one.


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Thats the same oilpan im using.Im also using the factory V8 mount that bolts to x member,and short-wide motor mount.Im using pirate 4x4 adaptor plates they look like most adaptor plates.I need to try moving it back once i get the subframe back under the car.
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Old Jan 3, 2013 | 11:00 PM
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You have a nice build thread.I seen that your adaptors are 1/2" thick,mine are 1/4" that might be part of my problem.
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thanks.. maybe you can just try using some 1/4" spacer (or more) behind the plates to see if that helps. or use a 1/4" plate between the motor mount and plate..

My project is on hold.. got to replace the trans on my Tahoe and my oil pan/cam on my Chevelle before i get back to my Nova..

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got to replace the trans on my Tahoe and my oil pan/cam on my Chevelle before i get back to my Nova.
man, I hate those dreaded oil pan/cam leaks.

I fabbed spacers out of 1/4" thick steel. It took some effort to get the engine in and mounts lined up, but I had no other issues.
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Yeah.. Welll, I bottomed out the CTS-V pan one day, cracked it.. right now only JBWeld is holding it together, with a pin hole leak.. not bad.. but well need to change it before the start of the cruising gets going.. don't need to be dripping oil at every car show and GTG I go to... !LOL..
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I used that pan and dirty dingo sliders. In the end do to the low a/c mount i notched the subframe for the pan.

I used American Racing Headers and the fit and finish is great. They tuck up tight to the floor.

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We originally used a set of generic motor plate adapters and GM Hot Rod Pan and hooker headers. The headers fit very well, wish I could say the same for the pan and mounts, which required spacers to get clearance. Moving forward, when the motor comes back out, we will be using Dingo mounts and probably a CTS-V pan.

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Im doing a 72 nova and have the dingo sliders has anyone used the fbody pan with the dingos without modifying the pan?
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Pretty sure the fbody pan won't fit unmodded. Tie rods will hit
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I dont mean to hijack the thread but what pan will fit with the dingos without modifying?
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Originally Posted by JLS
I dont mean to hijack the thread but what pan will fit with the dingos without modifying?
The holley worked on mine until i moved the engine forward by modifying the dingo sliders.
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put mine in today used the dingos and musclecar pan had to mod the dingos to raise the engine up about an 1 1/4" which helped sump clearance
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put mine in today used the dingos and musclecar pan had to mod the dingos to raise the engine up about an 1 1/4" which helped sump clearance
I have the sliders with a holley pan. Slight contact with the sub frame on the front of the pan. You may check into clearances for your accessories. If you raised the engine that far, the truck accessories arent going to clear the hood with the alternator in the stock location. Another thing to consider is your heater core. If you are a small block car, you will have issues with your coil packs/valve covers if you are setback 1"
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Also by raising the engine too much will also cause Firewall and Trans Tunnel contact and maybe Drive line Angle issues. Adding Raising and 1" Setback. that could make things even more of a problem.

I have seen a 65 Chevelle that had to cut the hood's inner support out to clear the Alternator..

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I dont have a heater core box on mine as far as the other potential problems i havent got that far yet
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