Fc rx7 won't start
#21
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (17)
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Detroit, MI - Camp Pendleton, CA
Posts: 619
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
![](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/ranks/ls1tech10year.png)
![Default](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Check the connector at the CKP sensor. Hot exhaust loves to harden the wires and connector. Sometimes the pins back out has you're plugging it in. Ive also seen the wires melt together so not only check for continuity but check continuity between each of the pins. Pull the PCM, disconnect the sensor, and check continuity between pin A,B and C. If you do its somewhere in the wiring harness.
#22
On The Tree
Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 127
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
![Default](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
I havent taken a light to the injectors. I figured that was worthless for
1)I know the plugs arent getting signal since they arent firing with proper 12v and ground. That only leaves 1 other possibility
AND
2)Who gives a **** if injectors are actually firing if no spark to combust?
And yes, I've given it a few looks aver, but with swapped cars and hundreds of cut wires...
I think i remember trying to check cont between CKP connector and all PCM pins, such as pin A on connector to all PCM pins and the same with B and C. Will double check just between PCM pins though.
1)I know the plugs arent getting signal since they arent firing with proper 12v and ground. That only leaves 1 other possibility
AND
2)Who gives a **** if injectors are actually firing if no spark to combust?
And yes, I've given it a few looks aver, but with swapped cars and hundreds of cut wires...
I think i remember trying to check cont between CKP connector and all PCM pins, such as pin A on connector to all PCM pins and the same with B and C. Will double check just between PCM pins though.
#23
TECH Regular
iTrader: (6)
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Austin, Texas
Posts: 438
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
![Default](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
I havent taken a light to the injectors. I figured that was worthless for
1)I know the plugs arent getting signal since they arent firing with proper 12v and ground. That only leaves 1 other possibility
AND
2)Who gives a **** if injectors are actually firing if no spark to combust?
And yes, I've given it a few looks aver, but with swapped cars and hundreds of cut wires...
I think i remember trying to check cont between CKP connector and all PCM pins, such as pin A on connector to all PCM pins and the same with B and C. Will double check just between PCM pins though.
1)I know the plugs arent getting signal since they arent firing with proper 12v and ground. That only leaves 1 other possibility
AND
2)Who gives a **** if injectors are actually firing if no spark to combust?
And yes, I've given it a few looks aver, but with swapped cars and hundreds of cut wires...
I think i remember trying to check cont between CKP connector and all PCM pins, such as pin A on connector to all PCM pins and the same with B and C. Will double check just between PCM pins though.
A) Wiring
b) Bad PCM
But since you've put it in another car and it worked, you've got a wiring issue.
#24
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (17)
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Detroit, MI - Camp Pendleton, CA
Posts: 619
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
![](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/ranks/ls1tech10year.png)
![Default](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Put the new pigtail on the CKP sensor wiring. My friend had the same problem.. intermittently would run and die. It even did it during WOT at times, why he got it like that I'll never know. With swapped cars, usually we have less room to work with so it forces us to push the exhaust in closer. Sounds like some heat got to the wiring.
#26
On The Tree
Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 127
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
![Default](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Ok so got the pigtail connector. Connected 12v from battery to pin C, grounded pin B and attached black multimeter lead to it and attached red lead to pin A. Turned car over by hand. Went 0-12v-0-12v-0, etc. Plugged my old stock CKP into my test set up and it did the same thing when i touched it to metal and pulled it away. Sounds normal right?
So went back and retested my PCM blue pins. They had all previously checked good, even while cranking. So now pin 19 (12v with IGN on) has 12v with ignition on. Still good. Checked pins 20 and 57 again which are supposed to have 12v constant. They now have 0.6v with IGN OFF and 2.2v with IGN ON...
Anyone know where these pins are supposed to wire into?
So went back and retested my PCM blue pins. They had all previously checked good, even while cranking. So now pin 19 (12v with IGN on) has 12v with ignition on. Still good. Checked pins 20 and 57 again which are supposed to have 12v constant. They now have 0.6v with IGN OFF and 2.2v with IGN ON...
Anyone know where these pins are supposed to wire into?
#29
LS1Tech Sponsor
iTrader: (3)
![Default](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Ok so got the pigtail connector. Connected 12v from battery to pin C, grounded pin B and attached black multimeter lead to it and attached red lead to pin A. Turned car over by hand. Went 0-12v-0-12v-0, etc. Plugged my old stock CKP into my test set up and it did the same thing when i touched it to metal and pulled it away. Sounds normal right?
So went back and retested my PCM blue pins. They had all previously checked good, even while cranking. So now pin 19 (12v with IGN on) has 12v with ignition on. Still good. Checked pins 20 and 57 again which are supposed to have 12v constant. They now have 0.6v with IGN OFF and 2.2v with IGN ON...
Anyone know where these pins are supposed to wire into?
So went back and retested my PCM blue pins. They had all previously checked good, even while cranking. So now pin 19 (12v with IGN on) has 12v with ignition on. Still good. Checked pins 20 and 57 again which are supposed to have 12v constant. They now have 0.6v with IGN OFF and 2.2v with IGN ON...
Anyone know where these pins are supposed to wire into?
__________________
![](https://ls1tech.com/forums/signaturepics/sigpic241851_3.gif)
Standalone LS Swap Harnesses IN STOCK!
LSX, LTX Stand alone swap harnesses. S10 LSX conversion PLUG AND PLAY harnesses, 24x conversion PLUG AND PLAY harnesses. LT1 to LSX PLUG AND PLAY Harnesses.
sales@bp-automotive.com
www.bp-automotive.com
1-888-467-4491
![](https://ls1tech.com/forums/signaturepics/sigpic241851_3.gif)
Standalone LS Swap Harnesses IN STOCK!
LSX, LTX Stand alone swap harnesses. S10 LSX conversion PLUG AND PLAY harnesses, 24x conversion PLUG AND PLAY harnesses. LT1 to LSX PLUG AND PLAY Harnesses.
sales@bp-automotive.com
www.bp-automotive.com
1-888-467-4491
#34
On The Tree
Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 127
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
![Default](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Did what fix it? The PCM pins that weren't getting voltage? It seems that those were no longer getting voltage because of a connector i unplugged in the cabiin while pulling the dash.
Either way, the answer is no, it is still currently not running/starting
Either way, the answer is no, it is still currently not running/starting
#36
LS1Tech Sponsor
iTrader: (3)
![Default](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
I looked over the thread, but did you ever change the Crank Position Sensor Pigtail?
__________________
![](https://ls1tech.com/forums/signaturepics/sigpic241851_3.gif)
Standalone LS Swap Harnesses IN STOCK!
LSX, LTX Stand alone swap harnesses. S10 LSX conversion PLUG AND PLAY harnesses, 24x conversion PLUG AND PLAY harnesses. LT1 to LSX PLUG AND PLAY Harnesses.
sales@bp-automotive.com
www.bp-automotive.com
1-888-467-4491
![](https://ls1tech.com/forums/signaturepics/sigpic241851_3.gif)
Standalone LS Swap Harnesses IN STOCK!
LSX, LTX Stand alone swap harnesses. S10 LSX conversion PLUG AND PLAY harnesses, 24x conversion PLUG AND PLAY harnesses. LT1 to LSX PLUG AND PLAY Harnesses.
sales@bp-automotive.com
www.bp-automotive.com
1-888-467-4491
#37
On The Tree
Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 127
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
![Default](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
No. I did however buy a spare CKP connector pigtail and put 12 Volts on it, grounded it, and volt tested across it while turning by hand. I got 12v-0v-12v-0v. I did the same test with the pigtail and my orginal CKP that I replaced on just a piece of metal. 12v when i touched the metal, 0v when i pulled it away.
So i then plugged my stock CKP connector back on and put 12 volts on PCM Blue 2, Volt test across pins 12 (CKP ground) and 21 (CKP reference signal). Turn engine over by hand and I get 12v - 0v - 12v - 0v etc. So the signal is getting between the PCM and CKP.
I have been having some other weird issues. First, the left turn signal flashed all on its own. It would flash like 3-5 times, pause for anywhere from 5 seconds-10min, then start flashing again, etc. That seems to have stopped. Then just the other night I was watching TV and got scared as **** as i heard a blaring noise from downstairs. Thought it may have been a smoke detector or something. Ran down there and the car horn was just constantly going off (mind you, I don't even have a steering wheel with horn buttons on the car now). So undid the battery. Dug through the wiring diagrams, it seems like the RX7 has a CPU that is similar to the fbody BCM which contains both the flasher and horn relays. I suppose my next step would be to unplug that and see if that's even somehow wired into the whole ignition wiring and possibly find a spare to put in.
So i then plugged my stock CKP connector back on and put 12 volts on PCM Blue 2, Volt test across pins 12 (CKP ground) and 21 (CKP reference signal). Turn engine over by hand and I get 12v - 0v - 12v - 0v etc. So the signal is getting between the PCM and CKP.
I have been having some other weird issues. First, the left turn signal flashed all on its own. It would flash like 3-5 times, pause for anywhere from 5 seconds-10min, then start flashing again, etc. That seems to have stopped. Then just the other night I was watching TV and got scared as **** as i heard a blaring noise from downstairs. Thought it may have been a smoke detector or something. Ran down there and the car horn was just constantly going off (mind you, I don't even have a steering wheel with horn buttons on the car now). So undid the battery. Dug through the wiring diagrams, it seems like the RX7 has a CPU that is similar to the fbody BCM which contains both the flasher and horn relays. I suppose my next step would be to unplug that and see if that's even somehow wired into the whole ignition wiring and possibly find a spare to put in.