Triumph TR7 / LS Swap
#1
Triumph TR7 / LS Swap
I have been finished with my Lambo Diablo replica for a year or so now and Im ready for another project....
I have always had a thing for small cars/trucks with v8s. Back in the day I did a V8 Vega, V8 Monza, V8 S10, an a few V8 Fieros along with a few LS based swaps.
Everyday I check craigslist for some kind of project/roller for a project, recently I ran across a TR7. Now in my 40s, I remember as a kid having a thing for these cars. I have found alot of info about TR6's with LS's but not much of anything online with TR7's with LS swaps.
Anyone have any examples of TR7's with LS swaps?
I have always had a thing for small cars/trucks with v8s. Back in the day I did a V8 Vega, V8 Monza, V8 S10, an a few V8 Fieros along with a few LS based swaps.
Everyday I check craigslist for some kind of project/roller for a project, recently I ran across a TR7. Now in my 40s, I remember as a kid having a thing for these cars. I have found alot of info about TR6's with LS's but not much of anything online with TR7's with LS swaps.
Anyone have any examples of TR7's with LS swaps?
#2
Run away! Those are terrible cars, especially the electrical. I had one, remember it well.
I have seen a few 3.8 swaps, there was a 300zx turbo installed in one here.
But it's kinda like putting one in a chevette. Not that much appeal.
I have seen a few 3.8 swaps, there was a 300zx turbo installed in one here.
But it's kinda like putting one in a chevette. Not that much appeal.
#4
I thought about going with a 3800sc/th200r4 if I get this car, but I already have a mostly complete LS3.
#5
So 3 years after making this post I got a TR7. I couldnt find the right car at that time so I did a turbo LS G-Body/Regal but now thats been pretty much finished for a few months its time for another project.
My first thought was to go with another drivetrain for this TR7 other than a LS since I have 2 turbo LS cars now.
But I already have alot of left over LS parts, a powerglide, a mustang 8.8, everything to do another turbo system (minus piping/intercooler). After doing the math on going with a 2jz or something simliar it is alot cheaper doing a LS.
So the plan is LS1 (got one hunted down already), powerglide, narrow the 8.8 (3.08s already), Microsquirt, spend a little on suspension, tires/rims. Get it running see how I like it n/a, then put on the extra on3 76mm I have. Total budjet I set aside- $4k. Going to start ordering everything next week and start hunting the other items I need.
The guy I got the car from tore it all apart of a restoration back in 2012, been sitting like this since then. I got all the parts in boxes along with a unknow condition Rover V8/Trans, but thats going to the recycle plant. Even got a new engine stand and engine hoist in the deal....
My first thought was to go with another drivetrain for this TR7 other than a LS since I have 2 turbo LS cars now.
But I already have alot of left over LS parts, a powerglide, a mustang 8.8, everything to do another turbo system (minus piping/intercooler). After doing the math on going with a 2jz or something simliar it is alot cheaper doing a LS.
So the plan is LS1 (got one hunted down already), powerglide, narrow the 8.8 (3.08s already), Microsquirt, spend a little on suspension, tires/rims. Get it running see how I like it n/a, then put on the extra on3 76mm I have. Total budjet I set aside- $4k. Going to start ordering everything next week and start hunting the other items I need.
The guy I got the car from tore it all apart of a restoration back in 2012, been sitting like this since then. I got all the parts in boxes along with a unknow condition Rover V8/Trans, but thats going to the recycle plant. Even got a new engine stand and engine hoist in the deal....
Last edited by tonypaul; 07-09-2016 at 10:56 PM.
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#8
A guy I knew back in the day had a Chrysler 340 in one. It was a hard top though. It was also backhalfed, and had a little N2O. That car was one of the fastest things around back then. Good Memories.
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I'm also doing a swap into a TR7 shell. In my case its a LS3 with the Tremec tr6060 salvaged from a 2010 Camaro with only 11,000 miles. Over the years I've had dozens of TR7s and TR8s. Have 6 TR8s now. Always trying to go faster so this time I'm throwing down the gauntlet. Car is a coupe. Interior is gutted and fully caged front to back. Flared the steel fenders, removed the tranny tunnel and fabricated a higher tunnel like the TVRs have. Fiberglass bumpers, gutted doors, Wilwood pedals, masters, rotors, and calipers, lightened and strengthened everywhere. For now its getting a narrowed Explorer 8.8. Goal is 500 hp and 2500 pounds. Going thru final stages of engine install now, then its off to the dustless blaster and then back on the rotisserie for final welding and body prep. Still need to make fuel cell supports, finish the door bars on the drivers side, add final engine bay cage pieces, make radiator mounts, and a few other tidbits. Trying figure things out as I go by searching for answers on this forum and over at grassroots motorsports, but I'm sure I'll have more questions once I get into wiring this beast. For now, I'm still tied up with the part I like the best, the fabrication and metal work.
#12
TR7 and TR8 subframes start life as the same parts. The TR7 gets a small plate somewhat in the center for an engine mount under the oil pan. The TR8 gets inverted Us on each end that extend up above the steering rack and mount to engine mounts on the lower side of the V8. I used the Camaro pan that was on the LS3. I needed to cut away and brace the rear of the TR7 subframe in order to fit the engine. Bottom of pan sits even with bottom of subframe, just as it does in a TR7 or TR8. I'm supporting the engine mounts on the frame rails instead of the subframe, and may even go to a solid aluminum plate mounted at the front of the engine. For now, there are aluminum plates mounted to the engine that convert the mounts to the older 3 bolt small block mounts, and then a tubular mount attached to the plates, and then 1/4" steel plates extend 3.5" out to the reinforced frame rails. The roll cage drops down and mounts between the steel plates on the frame rails, and in a couple of other places. It also ties into the strut tower tops and inner edges of the fenders as it runs forward. Very stout front end, with a surprising amount of left over room. Enough room to run a big turbo if it gets to that. There is another guy that I know who installed a 5.3 in a TR7. The pan he used fit with no mods to the subframe. The headers we are both using are a perfect fit on the drivers side. The passenger side clips the rearmost part of the frame rail and needed to be cut before the collector and angled straight down. Easy, pie cut and reweld. I'd love to find a passenger side header that points straight down from second from the back exhaust port.
#13
I finally got the TR7 to my garage today after having some trailer issues. But now Im in kinda in a situation... My wife really likes this TR7 and she wants it for her. I was planing on doing a LS1/powerglide/low budjet turbo/mustang 8.8 and not really worry about the paint, interior, wheels, ect to much right now.
But now Im thinking on just doing a 4.3 v6, found a nice 65k mile pull out from a 06 S10 with a cam/injector/headers upgrade. Tuned, with trans, wiring harness + some extras for a really good deal. That would leave me enough of my $4k budjet for new interior, paint,wheels... Kinda was really wanting to do a LS1.....
But now Im thinking on just doing a 4.3 v6, found a nice 65k mile pull out from a 06 S10 with a cam/injector/headers upgrade. Tuned, with trans, wiring harness + some extras for a really good deal. That would leave me enough of my $4k budjet for new interior, paint,wheels... Kinda was really wanting to do a LS1.....
#14
Before you stuff a motor in there, take some pics of the empty engine compartment. And maybe some measurements, firewall to crossmember, etc. I'm curious what will fit without too much metal work.
#15
Engine bay is enormous. The LS engine takes a similar amount of space as does a cleaned up Rover. Stock Rovers had a bunch of extra crap on them that made them look bigger than they are. All the emissions parts, the ridiculous intake system and air cleaners filled the whole engine bay with stuff. Clean the rover up and install a 4 barrel, and your at about the same footprint as the LS with room to spare. I've seen pictures of TR7s with Jag V12s and Big Block GM engines.
#17
LS plan any advise info list of items?
LS plan any advise info list of items? My TR7 5 speed was original and now that it was flooded out from storms. I have a clean slate to make the change.
I want to do the LS engine. I have not found any kits available. Advise anyone what I may need and problems you ran into.
I want to do the LS engine. I have not found any kits available. Advise anyone what I may need and problems you ran into.
#18
I had a normal sbc in one, plenty of room for it. I think an ls would be simple with a shorter sump oil pan like a Holley 302-2. I am cheap, and somewhat mechanically inclined, so I would probably make some type of frame mount to attach to a Dirty Dingo slider motor mount, if it were me. If there is a kit, I don't know of it...
#19
All this TR8 talk brings back fond memories of a SW Div SCCA TR8 that competed in ITS class when I was racing ITC back in the 80's/90's. Always looked forward to the part of a race, sometime between lap 14 and 16 of an 18-20 lap sprint race, when that orange flash would come V8-thundering past me somewhere on the track. He gave the 240Z's fits.