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Old May 3, 2014 | 11:36 PM
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added pictures to album of L76/ 52 Chevy Fleetline project

been acquiring parts and now into beginning project
besides axcquiring parts also been gathering information
and there is a lot of information to be had
never sure if you have it all.
particulars for this build

1952 Chevy Fleetline Deluxe
engine - L76 with AFM delete
transmission 6L80E
donor 2009 Pontiac G8 GT
Art Morrison GT chassis
4 wheel disc brakes
Circle Racing custom wheels 18x8 front 18x11 rear
plan calls for
Dakota Instruments VHX gauges
Vintage Air Gen iv Magnum System

figure as good a time to start a build thread as ever.
looking for any comments or help as it progresses
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Old May 4, 2014 | 12:51 AM
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here are some additional pictures
of 52 fleetline prior to start
Attached Thumbnails 1952 Fleetline update-003.jpg   1952 Fleetline update-015.jpg   1952 Fleetline update-013.jpg  
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Old May 4, 2014 | 12:57 AM
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pictures of engine from donor and art morrison frame
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Old May 4, 2014 | 10:03 AM
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Can't wait to see the progress of this build! You got some quality parts there
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Old May 4, 2014 | 11:00 AM
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Suggestion, I started my build thread with the attachment pictures, they don't look as good as if you loaded them from PhotoBucket.
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Old May 4, 2014 | 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Leadfoot85
Can't wait to see the progress of this build! You got some quality parts there
thanks

been following your build
and gleeming ideas from you
hope you dont mind
for fuel i am using the Tank's Inc.
larger size tank (1" deeper)
with internal fuel pump and corvette
filter / regulator
hav not decided on aluminum hard line
or braided hose yet.
pros and cons for either one.
planning on laying out fuel lines next week

looking at previous post
i really need to proof read
but at 2am ,working night shift
it gets rough
for
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Old May 6, 2014 | 05:16 AM
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Pictures of L76
car is a 2009 Pontiac G8 GT
will be using as much as possible from donor car
and sell off rest.
engine was tested for leak down and
all cylinders tested < 1% loss
great for an 80K mile car
did a complete DOD delete with a new cam
hoping for ~500 hp at flywheel
HSV-GT-300 has a great thread for
the L76 and DOD delete at the LS2 forum
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Old May 6, 2014 | 09:31 AM
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Should be sweet!
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Old May 9, 2014 | 04:24 PM
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opening up the L76 for inspection and start of DOD delete.
engine is a 80k mile unit that was in great shape to start.
pictures go from start to finish of rebuild and delete of DOD
oil pan is from a 2001 f-body Camaro to give the required cross member clearance on the Art Morrison chassis
Attached Thumbnails 1952 Fleetline update-100_3676.jpg   1952 Fleetline update-100_3596.jpg   1952 Fleetline update-100_3602.jpg   1952 Fleetline update-100_3662.jpg   1952 Fleetline update-100_3654.jpg  

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Old May 9, 2014 | 04:41 PM
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more engine build pictures
changed cam to be more aggressive than
stock DOD cam.
intake: duration 218.7 deg. valve lift .56421
exhaust duration 226.1 deg. valve lift .57586
Brought many parts from different vendors
Got DOD delete kit from Pace Performance
As well as Camaro oil pan
Replaced high flow oil pump with a stock LS2
With no relief valve in oil pan ( no DOD ).
Attached Thumbnails 1952 Fleetline update-100_3624.jpg   1952 Fleetline update-100_3631.jpg   1952 Fleetline update-100_3647.jpg   1952 Fleetline update-100_3639.jpg  

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Old May 9, 2014 | 07:01 PM
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I hope you don't mind if I posted this.
I had no idea what DOD stood for. Now I know it stands for "Displacement On Demand" So if I grasped the content of DOD correctly, if you need the V8 power you have it, and you get the economy of a 6 or 4 cylinder when you need it.
Then there was "Flex Fuel" which led me to E85, what? So this is for all the new members that do not know some of the abbreviations (like yours truly) believe me there's a lot to learn, and I'm willing just like I know there are others.
E85 is an abbreviation for an ethanol fuel blend of 85% denatured ethanol fuel and 15% gasoline or other hydrocarbon by volume, although the exact ratio of fuel ethanol to hydrocarbon can vary considerably while still carrying the E85 label. The ethanol content is adjusted according to the local climate to maximize engine performance. ASTM 5798 specifies the allowable fuel ethanol content in E85 as ranging from 51% to 83%. E85 is commonly used by flexible-fuel vehicles (FFV) in the United States and Europe. In the United States, government subsidies of ethanol in general and E85 in particular have encouraged a growing infrastructure for the retail sale of E85, especially in corn growing states in the Midwest.

One advantage of E85 over conventional gasoline is a reduction in tailpipe emissions, if one disregards the fact that E85 increases the emissions of acetaldehyde from vehicles. Another advantage of E85 is a higher octane rating, which improves engine performance and reduces engine heat and wear. Because the ethanol component effectively displaces fossil fuels with energy harvested from renewable sources, E85 is less carbon intensive
than conventional gasoline. Additionally, there is a greater potential for localized production of ethanol in agricultural areas and utilization of waste materials. Also, a diversification of fuel sources reduces dependence on any one particular type of fuel and may increase stability of supply.

Then I learned that current factory made E85 vehicles are not as efficient when it comes to fuel economy as the vehicles using conventional gasoline. Some critics of Flex Fuels claim that ethanol can produce better fuel economy similar to gasoline engines, but automotive manufacturers fail to do the things that are necessary to produce these results. I've included this site "How Stuff Works" below:
http://www.howstuffworks.com/fuel-ef...fuel-works.htm It will explain what M.P.G.s are produced with certain vehicles.
Now I understand what the "DOD Delete" is all about. I think I will be leaning towards the "DOD Delete"
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Old May 9, 2014 | 07:33 PM
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Did you consider stainess fuel line ? I originally started with aluminum and did not like it and did not feel confident that it was durable enough. I made a template out of copper tubing and sent it to inlinetube to make the line out of stainless for me . I did my brake lines that way too . JOHN

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Old May 10, 2014 | 06:37 AM
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Prefer stainless but difficult to work with.
Like your idea, may look into that alternative
Thanks
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Old May 10, 2014 | 04:25 PM
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Cool build. Love these 50's models.
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Old May 10, 2014 | 11:45 PM
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Thanks, the car is as old as the wife and I,
To bad can,t rebuild my body.
The brain just hasn't matured as much as the body
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Old May 14, 2014 | 11:13 AM
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I wouldn't use aluminum for fuel line, Id be afraid of cracking, there is a reason manufactures dont use it for fuel. But forgive me asking, why remove the DOD? can you not run a bigger cam with it?
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Old May 15, 2014 | 05:18 PM
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Not as big as you would think
Believe the DOD cylinders are limiting
Besides I had to change to a 2001 f-body oil pan
and went from 9 gals to 5.5 gals capacity
Believed DOD would empty oil pan and cause oil starvation
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Old May 16, 2014 | 07:40 PM
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some updates on work progress
body removed from original frame
and old floor cut out
and making preps to install new floor
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Old May 16, 2014 | 07:52 PM
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Default fleetline build updates

some photos to show
engine/trans/Art Morrison frame
surprised to see as much clearance
between 6L80E trans and floor
and looks like steering will clear headers
without to much trouble
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Old May 16, 2014 | 09:58 PM
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Wow, great progress so far! I'm having some serious chassis envy right now... that thing is pretty.

Keep us updated!
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