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Old Dec 21, 2016 | 09:53 AM
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There is this nipple coming out from right behind the throttle body on the intake manifold. I am not sure what it is for or how I need to plumb it.

This engine is a crate LS 3/430.

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Old Dec 21, 2016 | 10:04 AM
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Old Dec 21, 2016 | 10:40 AM
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Do you have PCV or canister purge solenoid hooked up?
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Old Dec 21, 2016 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Moter
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Doh!

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Old Dec 21, 2016 | 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by garys 68
Do you have PCV or canister purge solenoid hooked up?
I am told that the outlet picture below is for PVC and that I have to drill a hole in the bottom of the 4" air intake and put in a nipple and hook a hose between the line in the pic below and the nipple for the PVC.

I'm hoping that I don't have something buried somewhere I need to run a hose.

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Old Dec 21, 2016 | 01:38 PM
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PCV enters after the MAF, before the TB (some TBs have this port built in). Goes into the port you showed, then exits rear of the valve cover. From there it can go anywhere in the manifold after the TB. On LS1s, that's on the passenger side, front. The port you showed on the drivers side is the canister purge solenoid hookup.
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Old Dec 21, 2016 | 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by garys 68
PCV enters after the MAF, before the TB (some TBs have this port built in). Goes into the port you showed, then exits rear of the valve cover. From there it can go anywhere in the manifold after the TB. On LS1s, that's on the passenger side, front. The port you showed on the drivers side is the canister purge solenoid hookup.
Maybe it is covered/hidden due to wiring, coil covers etc, but I don't see anything coming out the back of the passenger side valve cover (The port I pictured earlier is on passenger side). Do I need to start tearing stuff apart and search for something else I need to hook up? But I do see something coming up from the rear DRIVER side valve cover, per picture below:

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So if that's it on the driver side valve cover, then from what you say, I guess I need to find a place to run a hose from there to the manifold?

I have no canister purge, so I guess I just cap the port behind the TB.
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Old Dec 21, 2016 | 04:19 PM
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don't do that, all you need to do is run it the way you stated in your 3rd post, put a nipple in the intake pipe after the maf and run the hose to the pipe on the passenger side valve cover as far as the nipple behind the TB just cap it off it is for the EVAP purge solenoid, just make sure the cap fits nice and tight, you don't want any vacuum leaks.
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The PCV setup can be different on different motors. But you need to find the PCV outlet. On truck motors, it's on the top rear of the drivers valve cover. That goes directly to the intake manifold, doesn't matter where. The inlet for PCV needs to be metered air, after the MAF, before the TB.
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Old Dec 21, 2016 | 10:17 PM
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Thanks for all your help folks.

BTW...I ran across this good post for reference with pics.
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Old Dec 21, 2016 | 11:17 PM
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Nice color...can we see the rest of the car?
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Old Dec 22, 2016 | 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by 33willys
Nice color...can we see the rest of the car?
Thanks.

Sure, pic below. It's not finished. And here's a link to my build thread. Sorry...it's on a different forum.

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Old Dec 22, 2016 | 12:42 PM
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If it's a crate ls3 there should be a pipe sneaking out from the valley cover on pass side of throttle body google ls3 pcv routing . There are tons of diagrams
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Old Dec 22, 2016 | 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by jimmyg
If it's a crate ls3 there should be a pipe sneaking out from the valley cover on pass side of throttle body google ls3 pcv routing . There are tons of diagrams
With just a small amount of time searching so far, every diagram I find is based on a catch can. I did not plan on having a catch can. Is that a mistake? Thought I'd ask before I spend a bunch of time searching for diagrams w/o a catch can.

I did find the outlet from the valley. Per the picture below, it is hooked up from the valley straight to the intake by a short tube. The engine came that way.

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Reading your lengthy build post now, love it!
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Old Dec 29, 2016 | 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by BLKMGK
Reading your lengthy build post now, love it!

Yup, it is long. A couple years of activity. Glad to hear you are enjoying it. Feel free to comment and s/or ask questions.
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Any issues with running both vents to a tee and in at the TB on the truck style intake? Shaved the intake and never relocated the inlet behind the tb as I planned on a catch can.. just ran out of time and tee'd them together and ran them in at the Tb as stated above.
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I think the PCV set up should work something like this -- air which enters the crankcase via the nipple connected to the valve cover (on my crate LS3) is MAKE UP air. It should be sourced from the air inlet pipe downstream of the maf sensor -- since it ends up being part of the combustion air charge it needs to be metered.

The air coming out of the air inlet pipe and entering the crankcase via the valve cover nipple is also limited because there is an orifice built into that entrance into the valve cover. At least, that's how mine was set up. There's a picture up above of the LS3 set up with a black rubber cap covering the nipple on the driver's side valve cover - pull that off and you'll see the orifice below. Absent the orifice and absent connecting to the air inlet after the mass air sensor, you risk introducing a pretty big vacuum leak to the motor. The picture up above shows the LS3 connection between the lifter valley and the intake manifold. As mentioned above, different engines are set up differently.

I think the most important things to pay attention to are 1) did the factory set up have an orifice to limit make up air volume - if so, mimic that; and 2) provide a connection for make up air that is downstream of the mass air sensor so the make up air is metered.
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