Please help ID my engine....
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Thats about it. There are numbers everywhere and i tried to find what it came from by the "8th" number or "3rd" number or any that was said to be related.... without any success. I just dont know which one says what!!
Id like to know what year exactly (said to be a '13) and i read that in order to get right front gear i needed to know what it was exactly. (?)
I read on here somewhere that the 1048 (front of engine) ones depicted a 5.3 with the better block castings on top of having the good gen 4 rods and pistons
Any help would be appreciated!!
Thanks guy's,
Lead.
All this because im getting ready to put it in the car with a cam and S480. But things are shaping to maybe be just a NA set up foor the first season for diver$e reasons.
Any other details needed just ask!!
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Here's the inside...
Just in case....
The guy i got it from said it was a 2013' and he was a personnal friend of a Good friend of mine so im sure he was telling it like it is. But we lost contact with him so i have no access to asking anything anymore.
Just in case....
The guy i got it from said it was a 2013' and he was a personnal friend of a Good friend of mine so im sure he was telling it like it is. But we lost contact with him so i have no access to asking anything anymore.
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If you ditch the AFM you can use a valley cover from a LH8. LH8 has same aluminum block, but did not have AFM. The valley cover will have the proper seals for the oil passages. I know this because I have a LH8...
Andrew
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Thats the plan!!
S480 and th400. Car build is in my sig... planning to be as light as possible, aking out everything i dont need, putting fglass where i can and keeping it looking / disguised as a street car as much as i can!!
If i could just be SURE what i have.
Nobody found what the serial number would be i guess? That sticked on the head? No help either??
Not an easy one eh!!??
Lead.
S480 and th400. Car build is in my sig... planning to be as light as possible, aking out everything i dont need, putting fglass where i can and keeping it looking / disguised as a street car as much as i can!!
If i could just be SURE what i have.
Nobody found what the serial number would be i guess? That sticked on the head? No help either??
Not an easy one eh!!??
Lead.
Lead,
You have a gen 4 aluminum block engine with AFM and Vvt. That's all you need to know. I believe there are only a couple of options that fit that description, but for what you're doing, the details are irrelevant. It has a gen 4 short block and it's for sure a 5.3L...
What else do you want to know?
Andrew
You have a gen 4 aluminum block engine with AFM and Vvt. That's all you need to know. I believe there are only a couple of options that fit that description, but for what you're doing, the details are irrelevant. It has a gen 4 short block and it's for sure a 5.3L...
What else do you want to know?
Andrew
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Lead,
You have a gen 4 aluminum block engine with AFM and Vvt. That's all you need to know. I believe there are only a couple of options that fit that description, but for what you're doing, the details are irrelevant. It has a gen 4 short block and it's for sure a 5.3L...
What else do you want to know?
Andrew
You have a gen 4 aluminum block engine with AFM and Vvt. That's all you need to know. I believe there are only a couple of options that fit that description, but for what you're doing, the details are irrelevant. It has a gen 4 short block and it's for sure a 5.3L...
What else do you want to know?
Andrew
Thanks for the reply!!
I just want to be sure i get the correct parts to delete the dod/vvt. I read about getting the correct gear for the cam? I tought it was just a replacement of the complete chain and gears alltogether and that got me unsure...
Then, what exactly do i need to change to get this puppy running?
My actual plan is the FITech 1200 with an S480, an MSD 58x box and be done.
I might run a carb and N/A first summer as i am building the whole car and cause of that, ive got a lot to do and pay, so maybe just an NA cam and a PTC torque in my 400 right out then ill upgrade to the FITech amd snail after the shake down of the car.
I bought a new Camaro 1LE and tought i was done building old cars...(done that my whole life) but it appears after 6500 km (Montreal!) that i prefer a grinder and welder to a mitt and a bucket.... so i need to sell the monster to clear back up my building budget.
Thanks for the help!
Mario
Mario,
I can definitely relate to being more of a greaser than a waxer!
As for your plans, I think running the Fitech is a bad idea. Throttle body EFI and boost seems like a terrible combination. It's hard enough getting uniform air distribution to all cylinders, but now you want to also add fuel to the equation? The single plane intake will also kill 40 pounds of torque down low as compared to the truck intake that you have now. I would keep that stock intake and get a Gen IV harness and controller. The GMPP ones will work, you will just need a tune. The e67 ECU is powerful. The alternative is to go with something like Holley EFI, which will allow you to do your own tuning. Whatever you choose, stay with multi-point injections.
If you swap cams, you will need a 3 bolt 4x cam gear. GM makes this for the GTO and you can find them at most vendors. I usually get mine from Lingenfelter. To get rid of AFM you need a minimum of 8 new lifters, personally I would just get a whole set of LS7 lifters. To ditch the VVT, you just need a Gen IV front cover that does not have VVT. Again, the LS2 GTO cover works and they already come with the cam sensor.
Andrew
I can definitely relate to being more of a greaser than a waxer!
As for your plans, I think running the Fitech is a bad idea. Throttle body EFI and boost seems like a terrible combination. It's hard enough getting uniform air distribution to all cylinders, but now you want to also add fuel to the equation? The single plane intake will also kill 40 pounds of torque down low as compared to the truck intake that you have now. I would keep that stock intake and get a Gen IV harness and controller. The GMPP ones will work, you will just need a tune. The e67 ECU is powerful. The alternative is to go with something like Holley EFI, which will allow you to do your own tuning. Whatever you choose, stay with multi-point injections.
If you swap cams, you will need a 3 bolt 4x cam gear. GM makes this for the GTO and you can find them at most vendors. I usually get mine from Lingenfelter. To get rid of AFM you need a minimum of 8 new lifters, personally I would just get a whole set of LS7 lifters. To ditch the VVT, you just need a Gen IV front cover that does not have VVT. Again, the LS2 GTO cover works and they already come with the cam sensor.
Andrew
If you swap cams, you will need a 3 bolt 4x cam gear. GM makes this for the GTO and you can find them at most vendors. I usually get mine from Lingenfelter. To get rid of AFM you need a minimum of 8 new lifters, personally I would just get a whole set of LS7 lifters. To ditch the VVT, you just need a Gen IV front cover that does not have VVT. Again, the LS2 GTO cover works and they already come with the cam sensor.
Andrew
Andrew
I suppose this would affect throttle body and throttle pedal selection as well.
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Mario,
I can definitely relate to being more of a greaser than a waxer!
As for your plans, I think running the Fitech is a bad idea. Throttle body EFI and boost seems like a terrible combination. It's hard enough getting uniform air distribution to all cylinders, but now you want to also add fuel to the equation? The single plane intake will also kill 40 pounds of torque down low as compared to the truck intake that you have now. I would keep that stock intake and get a Gen IV harness and controller. The GMPP ones will work, you will just need a tune. The e67 ECU is powerful. The alternative is to go with something like Holley EFI, which will allow you to do your own tuning. Whatever you choose, stay with multi-point injections.
If you swap cams, you will need a 3 bolt 4x cam gear. GM makes this for the GTO and you can find them at most vendors. I usually get mine from Lingenfelter. To get rid of AFM you need a minimum of 8 new lifters, personally I would just get a whole set of LS7 lifters. To ditch the VVT, you just need a Gen IV front cover that does not have VVT. Again, the LS2 GTO cover works and they already come with the cam sensor.
Andrew
I can definitely relate to being more of a greaser than a waxer!
As for your plans, I think running the Fitech is a bad idea. Throttle body EFI and boost seems like a terrible combination. It's hard enough getting uniform air distribution to all cylinders, but now you want to also add fuel to the equation? The single plane intake will also kill 40 pounds of torque down low as compared to the truck intake that you have now. I would keep that stock intake and get a Gen IV harness and controller. The GMPP ones will work, you will just need a tune. The e67 ECU is powerful. The alternative is to go with something like Holley EFI, which will allow you to do your own tuning. Whatever you choose, stay with multi-point injections.
If you swap cams, you will need a 3 bolt 4x cam gear. GM makes this for the GTO and you can find them at most vendors. I usually get mine from Lingenfelter. To get rid of AFM you need a minimum of 8 new lifters, personally I would just get a whole set of LS7 lifters. To ditch the VVT, you just need a Gen IV front cover that does not have VVT. Again, the LS2 GTO cover works and they already come with the cam sensor.
Andrew
Ok....
First, what does the 4x stand for? I know about the 3 bolt vs 1 but have no clue what the 4 x means??
Second, the FITech ive seen run on a few cars and it is a real performer under boost! Many have run in the low 8's already and its so simole to set up, thats what i like as around here, good tuners are far and few. I have even begun to like the look of an almost completely stock motor under the hood!! (Intake, alt mount, valve covers etc etc) its grown on me when done cleanly with a big Turbo next to it all wrapped up, so im not against it, but then, what do you use to tune it? Is it as simple to install? I had a deal of a lifetime for a HiRam and 102 Holley that i let pass because i was afraid of MPFI and tuning... that about as good lookin' as it gets in my book!
At first i was looking at the Dominator for awhile, then i compared prices... me, i just wanna run fast (TnT nights, a bit of grudge and fun saturday nights) all while beeing on somewhat of a budget (For the time beeing), so the FITech seemed to be a nice set up, simple, not too expensive and pretty competitive.
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The FITech system is easy to install and use but has its drawbacks.
Any one-size-fits-all system isn't going to be the best in every situation.
You also don't get some of the more hardcore features like traction control, 2 step, anti-lag, bump box control, etc that you would get with something like MS3-Pro or MS3 Gold Box.
And the intake manifold they provide has been shown to produce less power on most setups than some of the stock intakes.
Ease of use? It does definitely have that.
Any one-size-fits-all system isn't going to be the best in every situation.
You also don't get some of the more hardcore features like traction control, 2 step, anti-lag, bump box control, etc that you would get with something like MS3-Pro or MS3 Gold Box.
And the intake manifold they provide has been shown to produce less power on most setups than some of the stock intakes.
Ease of use? It does definitely have that.