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Old Oct 28, 2018 | 03:35 PM
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I did a search and can't find the answer looking for a t56 to throw in my 66 chevelle. I have a 2002 6.0 in it now witha muncie 4 speed I have a line a 95 firbird witha t56 but am told tht I have to change iput shaft and bellhousing what is different? Love to find a ls style t56 but wow everybody in my area have gold plated ones !!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old Oct 29, 2018 | 12:38 PM
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It's input shaft, front cover, and bell housing that's different between the LT1 and LS1 T56.
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Old Oct 29, 2018 | 02:41 PM
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Input shaft from the LS is longer then the LT. Boll housing bolt holes are not in the same place either. I'm assuming front cover would have to be a little bit deeper as well.
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Old Oct 29, 2018 | 03:48 PM
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Panhead, I converted a LT T56 to an LS T56. I have a pretty detailed write up in my build thread, in my signature below.
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Old Oct 30, 2018 | 08:30 AM
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If you do not know what needs to be done then you probably aren't comfortable doing the conversion yourself. The transmission has to be almost completely torn down to make the changes which isn't cheap for a shop to do. I would pass on a LT T56 unless I got it dirt cheap and was tearing it down for a rebuild in the first place.
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Old Oct 30, 2018 | 08:54 AM
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Converting an LT1 T56 over to LS can be done by someone who has never taken a transmission apart, in about 30 minutes. Its not terribly difficult.
The LT1 bell housing doesn't fit over the LS1 flywheel. The bell housing isn't large enough in diameter. Some people have made a smaller flywheel work with an offset starter (very expensive) but it costs more than just converting the trans.

Want one of my little secrets?
Go all automatic trans bell housing on the LT1 T56. Hack off the lower part of the bell housing So that it clears an LS1 flywheel. With the right clutch setup, you can use a 100% stock LT1 transmission and save a TON of money on both the transmission and conversion parts.
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Old Oct 31, 2018 | 07:08 AM
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Cool that's what I needed to know the flywheel diameter is the issue, as for tearing the trans apart I've been rebuilding manual/automatic trans for the last 20 years. Thanks JoeNova , I like the cheaper way out , I have a full machine shop so modifiying the bellhousing isn't aproblem
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Old Oct 31, 2018 | 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by JoeNova
Converting an LT1 T56 over to LS can be done by someone who has never taken a transmission apart, in about 30 minutes. Its not terribly difficult.
The LT1 bell housing doesn't fit over the LS1 flywheel. The bell housing isn't large enough in diameter. Some people have made a smaller flywheel work with an offset starter (very expensive) but it costs more than just converting the trans.

Want one of my little secrets?
Go all automatic trans bell housing on the LT1 T56. Hack off the lower part of the bell housing So that it clears an LS1 flywheel. With the right clutch setup, you can use a 100% stock LT1 transmission and save a TON of money on both the transmission and conversion parts.
That's pretty damn cool!
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Old Oct 31, 2018 | 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by pan58head
Cool that's what I needed to know the flywheel diameter is the issue, as for tearing the trans apart I've been rebuilding manual/automatic trans for the last 20 years. Thanks JoeNova , I like the cheaper way out , I have a full machine shop so modifiying the bellhousing isn't aproblem
The problem with the LS1 version is the snowball effect. You replace the bell housing to clear the LS1 flywheel. Now you're missing the hydraulic clutch components. So you buy the LS1 versions. Now your input shaft and front plate are mismatched, etc.

Cut the LT1 bellhousing. Use the stock input shaft and front plate because you retain the slave cylinder on the LT1 bellhousing. Use the LS1 flywheel. Now your SOLE concern is finding the right clutch. I'll have to check my notes, but I'm pretty sure an LT1 clutch will work here with minor changes.
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Old Nov 1, 2018 | 08:09 AM
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Cool Joe This is the way I like to do things I usually have more time than money . I love to make it work
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Originally Posted by JoeNova
The problem with the LS1 version is the snowball effect. You replace the bell housing to clear the LS1 flywheel. Now you're missing the hydraulic clutch components. So you buy the LS1 versions. Now your input shaft and front plate are mismatched, etc.

Cut the LT1 bellhousing. Use the stock input shaft and front plate because you retain the slave cylinder on the LT1 bellhousing. Use the LS1 flywheel. Now your SOLE concern is finding the right clutch. I'll have to check my notes, but I'm pretty sure an LT1 clutch will work here with minor changes.
Quit leading others on paths you have not traveled. You haven't mocked up a thing. You have no plan how to maintain functional clutch release.

When it it comes to cobbling, if you have to go out of your way to buy custom parts when servicing the vehicle (like a pressure plate and disc from multiple applications, plus custom flywheel,) and there is no actual benefit to running it that way, then you probably should stick with parts that are easy to get.
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Old Nov 4, 2018 | 02:28 PM
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As I suggested above, it’s really easy. Took me an hour, and I’ve never been inside a transmission in my life. Finding the parts is much harder than doing the work. You’ll end up with a tranny that you can use any LS clutch setup in, and use Oem hydraulics.
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Old Nov 4, 2018 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by jmd

Quit leading others on paths you have not traveled. You haven't mocked up a thing. You have no plan how to maintain functional clutch release.




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Old Nov 4, 2018 | 04:04 PM
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Nice job, Joe! I don't know where JMD gets off shooting his mouth off like that...….
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Old Nov 4, 2018 | 05:51 PM
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Nice job, Joe! I don't know where JMD gets off shooting his mouth off like that...….
I second that! I've never understood why some folks think just because they are not aware of something, it could not possibly exist.
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Old Nov 4, 2018 | 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by $lee
I second that! I've never understood why some folks think just because they are not aware of something, it could not possibly exist.
I got a similar reaction on a different forum from a member because I suggested something that wasn't his approved method but I knew 100% worked and was reliable because I had been using it for several years on different builds. Liking different stuff and thinking different ways is makes the car hobby so interesting.

Would I personally use Joe's method for this? No, I would use the LSx bits I already know - but I like the creative engineering. I'm all about creativity.

Thanks for sharing another creative option Joe.
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Old Nov 4, 2018 | 09:25 PM
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It's the guys here that think outside the box that get my attention, among other things of course. Original thinkers, without whom lemmings like us would be clueless.. lol
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