LS swap 2nd Generation Camaro
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LS swap 2nd Generation Camaro If I want to purchase an LS-3 crate engine how do I get the right oil pan ? I see one as a V-rod the other part # says it fits 4th Gen Camaro .. I have read 4th Gen camaro oil pan won't fit..
I really wanted the Dry Sump LS-7 and have been told the Dry Pump LS pan will not fit a '79 Camaro either
I really wanted the Dry Sump LS-7 and have been told the Dry Pump LS pan will not fit a '79 Camaro either
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LS-3 or L-94 E-85 
I can get a Crate LS-94 gas flex fuel Injectors already .. not so sure how to get the right computer and harness for compared to chaining an LS-3 or LS-7 Turn Key set up with a T-56 Magnum 6 speed .
I commented on an existing E-85 thread .. I am new here maybe I can find a way to link it .. Or I'll copy and paste .. Thanks
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Dent in Door Dang that dent in the door shows up .. Door was not latched my hands were full I hit it with my but.. Right Rear Quarter dent too the jack was not tied down .. in trunk .. You can learn many things by accident ..
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Thanks for the Reply I have seen photos on the GM Performance parts Web site that show an oil pan that would fit.. I was just on the phone with the Largest GM hot rod parts dealer in the USA. I got the wrong guy he offered very little info. It took me 15 minutes for him to finally tell me that GM uses to sell Crate motors with the correct oil pan but they do not anymore .. He kept saying that there are so many different models out there. Daa Every car from 1955 till the late 1980's pretty much had the same oil p[an Big Block or small Block ..
[url]https://howellefi.com/product-category/general-motors/gm-ls-series-products/ This is in my Que here .. Howell Products sells custom built compete wiring harnesses and ECM's but they don't cover the L-94 which has flex fuel Injectors in it ..
I can't believe I have to pull the oil pan off and buy an aftermarket one.. It seems that Holley makes a popular one
https://sdparts.com/c-1029417-engine...e-engines.html At least they have their web page in decent order and offer accessory drives .. This may be a little off topic but I just spotted the 6 Liter Truck engine with cast iron Block .. They suggest accessory drive kits..
https://sdparts.com/i-24104134-chevr...te-engine.html
Here is a list of their Connect and Cruise kits
https://sdparts.com/search.html#!sq%...nd%20cruise%20
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Drive Train specialist These guys are a Distributor of the T-56 Magnum they specialize in Motor mounts Trans Bell Housing .. Drive shaft and rear ends
https://americanpowertrain.com/
https://americanpowertrain.com/
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Connect & cruise kit - lt376/535 535 HP 6.2 L Web site shows $17,000 go to the features page they raise the price to $20,344.. that's more than the LS-7 costs
https://sdparts.com/i-24104242-chevr...nsmission.html
Chevrolet Performance Connect & Cruise Kit - LT376/535 w/T56 Transmission
Price: $17782.28 Let me guess the LS-7 will Jump from $18,000 to $21,000 depending what page you are on ??? This one has Forged Steel crank .. 11.5 to 1 compression and a billet steel camshaft
https://sdparts.com/i-24104242-chevr...nsmission.html
Chevrolet Performance Connect & Cruise Kit - LT376/535 w/T56 Transmission
Price: $17782.28 Let me guess the LS-7 will Jump from $18,000 to $21,000 depending what page you are on ??? This one has Forged Steel crank .. 11.5 to 1 compression and a billet steel camshaft
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Fea https://sdparts.com/i-19866314-chevr...ditioning.html $710.00 with no air
Then they have one for F Body no air bottom mounted alternator .. but they don't say what Generation F Body they really leave you guessing ..
https://sdparts.com/i-19866315-chevr...ng-no-a-c.html Also no photos of F body set up
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LS Swap for second generation F Body Camaro I am not very impressed with the Low Info on GM Web sites .. Here is what Holley offers .. looks like they own Hooker now .. Hooker headers were known for better quality and fit than most brands back in the Day
https://www.holley.com/products/ls_p...ap_components/
https://www.holley.com/products/ls_p...ap_components/
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T-56 Trans heavier u-joints [QUOTE]74 will be a 1310 U joint, '79 is a 3R U joint.
The 1310 is an external clip outside lock, The 3R is an inside lock
The 1310 has 1.063" bearing caps, and 3.219" across lock to lock
The 3R has 1.250" bearing caps and 2.556" across lock to lock
The # for the U jont you need is 3103 or 3103BF if you want the stronger solid joint
It appears that the later Camaros from 74 used A Spicer 1310 U Joint by 1979 they used a lighter smaller U-joint with an Internal clip
night rider, Aug 15, 2010
The 1310 is an external clip outside lock, The 3R is an inside lock
The 1310 has 1.063" bearing caps, and 3.219" across lock to lock
The 3R has 1.250" bearing caps and 2.556" across lock to lock
The # for the U jont you need is 3103 or 3103BF if you want the stronger solid joint
It appears that the later Camaros from 74 used A Spicer 1310 U Joint by 1979 they used a lighter smaller U-joint with an Internal clip
night rider, Aug 15, 2010
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U joints I just have a 10 bolt GM now .. want to upgraded to a Ford 9" later .. I was wondering .. What i have to do to change the Yoke in the rear end.. It seems to me you have to set up the yoke with a Crush fit on the Pinion gear..
https://images.holley.com/302-1_302-2comp2.jpg When it comes to Motor mounts and a Radiator with electric fans Holley web sites goes in indecisive circles..
Also I was just quoted on and engine and trans package they recommended the Holley 302-2 oil pan but Holley web site recommends the 302-1 oil pan , My car is lowered a lot has very low ground clearance though stock 79 350 Chevy oil pan was never an issue..
I see some pans have oil Cooler Delete./.. WTF I have not even figured out if and LS-3 has an oil cooler .. Guess I better not confuse what I was learning about Duaramx Diesel as they just improved their oil heat exchanger a lot ..
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The 2002 era FEA will put the alt down low and the PS pump with reservior up.
I used the standard 2002 oil pan on both 2nd gen projects and the bottom of the pans where slightly higher that the bottom of the cross member. You don't want the bottom of the pan lower than the cross member.
I believe you can buy a 1350 yoke for the 8.5. My rear end/trans guy would say it's better to shim the yoke to pre-load specs instead of the crush sleeve.
I had a 420 RWHP L92 in my 73 and it didn't break the 8.5.
If I recall correctly I used the typical engine adapter plates and the stock second gen rubber frame mounts.
I've never used an oil cooler. I believe it's just a spacer on the side of side of the oil pan with ports for the oil cooler lines.
I used the standard 2002 oil pan on both 2nd gen projects and the bottom of the pans where slightly higher that the bottom of the cross member. You don't want the bottom of the pan lower than the cross member.
I believe you can buy a 1350 yoke for the 8.5. My rear end/trans guy would say it's better to shim the yoke to pre-load specs instead of the crush sleeve.
I had a 420 RWHP L92 in my 73 and it didn't break the 8.5.
If I recall correctly I used the typical engine adapter plates and the stock second gen rubber frame mounts.
I've never used an oil cooler. I believe it's just a spacer on the side of side of the oil pan with ports for the oil cooler lines.
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Rear End FEA The 2002 era FEA will put the alt down low and the PS pump with reservior up.
I used the standard 2002 oil pan on both 2nd gen projects and the bottom of the pans where slightly higher that the bottom of the cross member. You don't want the bottom of the pan lower than the cross member.
I believe you can buy a 1350 yoke for the 8.5. My rear end/trans guy would say it's better to shim the yoke to pre-load specs instead of the crush sleeve.
I had a 420 RWHP L92 in my 73 and it didn't break the 8.5.
If I recall correctly I used the typical engine adapter plates and the stock second gen rubber frame mounts.
I've never used an oil cooler. I believe it's just a spacer on the side of side of the oil pan with ports for the oil cooler lines.
I used the standard 2002 oil pan on both 2nd gen projects and the bottom of the pans where slightly higher that the bottom of the cross member. You don't want the bottom of the pan lower than the cross member.
I believe you can buy a 1350 yoke for the 8.5. My rear end/trans guy would say it's better to shim the yoke to pre-load specs instead of the crush sleeve.
I had a 420 RWHP L92 in my 73 and it didn't break the 8.5.
If I recall correctly I used the typical engine adapter plates and the stock second gen rubber frame mounts.
I've never used an oil cooler. I believe it's just a spacer on the side of side of the oil pan with ports for the oil cooler lines.
Sure a 10 bolt will hold up if you don't pull a 5,000 RPM whole shot with slicks .. You can dump any rear end 1st try if you have enough traction .. I revved up my '70 Chevy Impala with a Turbo 350 and 2,70 rear gears in neutral and threw it into drive.. The car never moved never spun .. the drive shaft just rolled out from under the car.. I had bought a Junk Pickup from my buddy for $110.00 the Z-28 camaro was still a couple more months wait .. Took over 6 months to order..it from CA Van Nuys Factory .. The Economy was booming in 1979 seems I recall they sold 240,000 Camaros in 1979 . I think that was the peak year .
This is how you do it .. Buy a '69 427 Camaro for $3,400 go Pro Stock racing win $250,000 in one year .. I am guessing a 12 Bolt and a Muncie M-22 Rock Crusher .. Bill "Grumpy" Jenkins RIP