70 Chevelle LS swap on a college budget
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Hi, Great work on this project. Who makes the radiator and fan setup? I have a 70 monte carlo that I am getting ready to install a 6.0 out of an 06 GTO. I am going to use the holley headers as well, what holly part # for the motor mounts did you use? I like the accessory drive system, it looks compact and strong. I'm building my monte on a college fund budget as well, I'm retired and paying for my daughters medical school tuition, so my project has to take a back seat for purchasing parts when the college tuition is due. I am going to order the headers, vintage ac system, motor mounts, and rear gears in the next two weeks. I like the work you did on the suspension, that might have to wait until after I pay for the spring semester. Who made your drop spindles? I will be following your build and probably ask a lot more questions.
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G Atsma (10-28-2021)
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But I cut my teeth on BBC so they always have a soft spot in my heart. BBC and 70 Chevelle go together like PBnJ
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Well it’s been a little while since I updated this, lots has changed. I did end up getting the car started around when I expected to. But unfortunately I ran into some problems. On the first startup the car was backfiring something awful, I went through all kinds of trial and error to finally find out the coil harness on the drivers side was flipped…. What a pain that was lol. With the harness the right direction the car started and idled enough to see there was oil pressure and no leaks in the cooling system. It also revealed a power steering leak. Turns out the power steering reservoir was seeping through the seam where it was bonded together, I pulled it off and ran a thin line of panel bond around the seam and that sealed it up. Now back to the main issue, there was a valve train noise in the engine. First thing I checked was the lifter preload, it was at .060” which is within the spec of 0.050-0.100. While I was checking that I noticed the rocker arms weren’t getting oil. After talking to some guys at the local machine shop I decided to try a longer set of pushrods in hopes of quoting down the noise and getting the rockers some oil. No dice. I finally bit the bullet and pulled the heads, the theory was that the lifters weren’t enough for the higher lift cam. I ended up putting in a set of Johnson 2110r lifters which are a short travel lifter. While I was upgrading the lifters I also put in a set of arp head bolts and another set of ls9 head gaskets. To get the correct preload for the Johnson lifters (0.035 +/- 0.010) I ended up using different length pushrods on the intake and exhaust.
When I got everything back together and was finally ready to start the car it was a nerve racking experience, with that amount of money invested to try and fix a problem that I wasn’t sure I could fix. On the first startup there was a little noise initially but after a few seconds of running the noise gradually disappeared!
With the valve train noise fixed I was back on track. I ended up ordering a set of torq thrusts for the summer, they’ll likely end up on my 56 bel air project down the road. The base tune was seeming close enough for an easy drive around the block. First drives are alway nerve racking but everything went fairly smooth, we made it around the block no problem.
After some tuning changes and some slight suspension changes we took the car back out around the block. Again we made it back with no problems but this time I noticed the tire was rubbing a bit on the inner fender…
This problem has since been my biggest holdup, after multiple coilover height adjustments, 3 sets of tire sizes test fit I finally clued in that the aftermarket drop spindle may be pushing the wheel out. That was in fact the case. Luckily I had a spare set of factory disc brake spindles so I swapped those over and were all good to go again!
I’ve been driving the car the odd time, mostly just short trips around the block and one longer trip to the gas station. Just cleaning up the tune and getting things set how I want them. The car works awesome! Lots of power and really good drivability. It’ll break the tires free no problem and it seems to be very quick. I’ll be taking it to the drag strip eventually to see what it runs but I also have a dragy to test with in the mean time
When I got everything back together and was finally ready to start the car it was a nerve racking experience, with that amount of money invested to try and fix a problem that I wasn’t sure I could fix. On the first startup there was a little noise initially but after a few seconds of running the noise gradually disappeared!
With the valve train noise fixed I was back on track. I ended up ordering a set of torq thrusts for the summer, they’ll likely end up on my 56 bel air project down the road. The base tune was seeming close enough for an easy drive around the block. First drives are alway nerve racking but everything went fairly smooth, we made it around the block no problem.
After some tuning changes and some slight suspension changes we took the car back out around the block. Again we made it back with no problems but this time I noticed the tire was rubbing a bit on the inner fender…
This problem has since been my biggest holdup, after multiple coilover height adjustments, 3 sets of tire sizes test fit I finally clued in that the aftermarket drop spindle may be pushing the wheel out. That was in fact the case. Luckily I had a spare set of factory disc brake spindles so I swapped those over and were all good to go again!
I’ve been driving the car the odd time, mostly just short trips around the block and one longer trip to the gas station. Just cleaning up the tune and getting things set how I want them. The car works awesome! Lots of power and really good drivability. It’ll break the tires free no problem and it seems to be very quick. I’ll be taking it to the drag strip eventually to see what it runs but I also have a dragy to test with in the mean time
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I also upgraded my fuel regulator and filter from a corvette style regulator to an aeromotive unit with a Holley filter.
here’s some before and after of the wheel trim and minor stance changes
and a final engine bay picture, which also shows the final product of the rad cover
here’s some before and after of the wheel trim and minor stance changes
and a final engine bay picture, which also shows the final product of the rad cover
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Love the Torq Thrusts! Such a classic look! The car is looking great too!
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showdog75 (01-08-2022)
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I’m surprised how a quick glance it looks like a BBC with the wide VCs orange paint everywhere and Crome air cleaner
looks great
looks great
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The billet VCers and FEAD are crazy expensive. Cheap FEAD like Kwik bracket look awful. I like the OEM look of GMPP and Holleys stuff.
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ModSquad
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Very nicely done sir. One area to watch out for is rear crossmember above the rear end. When you go as low as you are with these cars, the u-joint will kiss the crossmember when hitting dips or bridges at speed. Mine is about where yours is height-wise and I’ve had this happen once with the wife and son in the car. I turned the compression up two notches on my rear adjustable shocks and never had it hit again, but it’s crazy close back there. Love the stance! Wheels are perfect also as G pointed out.
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Hi, did you purchase the ac compressor from vintage air or through holley with the mid mount kit? what cfm cooling fans are you using? Why the change from the corvette fuel regulator? With the drop spindle issue, would different back spacing on the rims have corrected the problem? I would like to install 2 inch drop spindles on my 70 Monte Carlo. Really nice job on the car.
thanks,
frank
thanks,
frank
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Jimbo1367 (11-17-2021)
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Hi, did you purchase the ac compressor from vintage air or through holley with the mid mount kit? what cfm cooling fans are you using? Why the change from the corvette fuel regulator? With the drop spindle issue, would different back spacing on the rims have corrected the problem? I would like to install 2 inch drop spindles on my 70 Monte Carlo. Really nice job on the car.
thanks,
frank
thanks,
frank
Very nicely done sir. One area to watch out for is rear crossmember above the rear end. When you go as low as you are with these cars, the u-joint will kiss the crossmember when hitting dips or bridges at speed. Mine is about where yours is height-wise and I’ve had this happen once with the wife and son in the car. I turned the compression up two notches on my rear adjustable shocks and never had it hit again, but it’s crazy close back there. Love the stance! Wheels are perfect also as G pointed out.
well it has been a while since i've updated this thread, I had the car on the dyno and it picked up 40 wheel horsepower with some tuning changes! The current phase of this car is done for now, it'll eventually get some bigger brakes but that requires different wheels because of the current backspace.