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Old Aug 20, 2022 | 07:54 PM
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Have a 2008 isuzu npr with a 6.0 8th digit in vin is n.
looking for a new crate oem motor and all I can come across new is l96 Part number 19416591. It’s showing vin code n is a lq9. Any way the l96 would swap over?
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Old Aug 20, 2022 | 08:54 PM
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LQ9 Crate Engine - Chevrolet Performance LS364/450 6.0L LS Series Engine ***3 IN STOCK!*** - KarlKustoms.com

LS Crate Engine by Chevrolet Performance LS364 450 6.0L 452 HP Crate Engine Chevrolet Performance 19370163 (paceperformance.com)

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Old Aug 20, 2022 | 09:16 PM
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Seems like kind of too much horsepower for a work truck and the whole 93 octane would be a negative.
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Old Aug 20, 2022 | 11:17 PM
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Are you just looking for a stock replacement engine?
A stock L96 has 360HP and 9.6:1 compression which matches the compression of an LQ4 which is what is in your Isuzu now, even though it wasn't made after 07.
You might have an L96 in it now.
You do NOT have an LQ9 in it as equipped. It was strictly a performance truck engine put only in GM trucks, not Isuzus.
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Old Aug 21, 2022 | 10:10 AM
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Me mechanic just came by and verified lq9. 2008 vin code n also means lq9 which I have. Yes I want stock.
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Old Aug 21, 2022 | 10:18 AM
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Then find a reman LQ9. You won't find new crate stock LQ9's as they are no longer made
The LQ9 was a higher compression LQ4. I doubt they put that high a compression engine in Isuzu work trucks.
They usually came with the LQ4, which is what I bet you have.
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Old Aug 21, 2022 | 10:37 AM
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One other thing to keep in mind is your truck has the 24x reluctor the newer engines have 58x.

How are you using your truck? What kind of back does it have on it? Flat bed/box truck?

What are you wanting to get out of the new engine.
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Old Aug 21, 2022 | 10:40 AM
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We just checked it’s a 58x, they put 58 after Jan 06. I don’t want a reman never had good luck, I just want a oem 6.0 that will be similar and the only new oem I could find is a l96. I have 12 of these box trucks that stay on the road and constantly worked hard.
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Old Aug 21, 2022 | 10:52 AM
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The L96 should do the job. It is still a low compression 6.0 like the LQ4, and as long as all the present sensors and other electrical stuff is moved over, it will work.
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Is it due to millage or damage you are wanting to swap out the engine?
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Old Aug 21, 2022 | 11:28 AM
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They Overheated it and it’s knocking now but it has 199,000 so I figured just put a new crate engine
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Since you are doing this to maintain your fleet I know you want this to be a one and done thing.

I was personally under the impression that ALL LQ4/LQ9 engines were 24x. Not sure if I missed later on they were swapped to 58x or if that was just a for those Isuzu trucks.

if you want too that can be personally checked out by looking at the sensor on n the side of the block. Grey color 58x, black color 24x.

other things to consider.

look at the front cover to see if the engine you are getting or have has VVT

look to see if the engine you have or getting has DOD lifters.

is your set up drive by wire or drive by cable?

3 bolt vs 4 bolt throttle body.

oil pan, windage tray and oil pickup tube.

Cathedral port heads vs Rectangular port heads, the intakes don’t interchange with out a adapter.

just trying to throw a few things up there so there is less possibility of something being wrong while swapping.
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Old Aug 21, 2022 | 12:03 PM
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Grey crack sensor
Drive by wire
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Old Aug 21, 2022 | 12:15 PM
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ok, so 58x, not sure if that was a Isuzu thing or they did that across the board. My personal LQ9 is a 24x 2004 model so I didn’t keep up with it past that.

Also do you know what injector size your original engine has?

that replacement engine you are looking at I think has the larger flex fuel injectors and VVT.

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Originally Posted by safjist_nipnog
ok, so 58x, not sure if that was a Isuzu thing or they did that across the board. My personal LQ9 is a 24x 2004 model so I didn’t keep up with it past that.

Also do you know what injector size your original engine has?

that replacement engine you are looking at I think has the larger flex fuel injectors and VVT.
My bad above, the L96 does have VVT but not DOD/AFM.
No Gen IV 6.0 truck engines come without VVT.
I would source a reputable reman LQ4.
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Old Aug 21, 2022 | 02:44 PM
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You would put a reman lq4 when it has a lq9 factory? I don’t do rebuilt and why would I want to change it to 24x?
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Because the LQ9 has over 10:1 compression and I know Isuzu didn't use those in work truck trucks without specifying at least 91 octane fuel, and they have never done that.
You say the VIN has an "N" which, in a GM truck, indicates an LQ9. You do NOT have a GM truck. It is an Isuzu truck with a GM engine. Different animal with different VIN's.
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Old Aug 21, 2022 | 02:56 PM
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Just had a ls specific mechanic come that’s all he messes with, it’s a lq9, it has the same covers like the vortec max that covers the alternator also.
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Originally Posted by ryan714
Just had a ls specific mechanic come that’s all he messes with, it’s a lq9, it has the same covers like the vortec max that covers the alternator also.
Then someone put it in there. Isuzu used only 300HP LQ4s in their earlier gas powered commercial trucks. They used those covers because the engines in cabover trucks are a bit more out in the weather. Again, Isuzu VINs are not like GM truck VINs
Pull the heads off the old one. If pistons are dished, it's an LQ4. Flat tops, LQ9.

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Just found this on passenger side, it’s a ly6 and somebody put a different cover, now I’m looking for a new ly6 or to know if a l96 fits
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