E30 with L33 and Dual Clutch (DCT) build thread
I found an L33 engine in a local junk yard form a 2006 Silverado 1500 long bed truck. It's an aluminum high output 5.3 with 799 heads. Engine did not turn smoothly, so junkyard gave it to me for $300.
Got it home and took it apart. There was surface rust in two of the bores, but otherwise it looked good. Main bearings and crank looked good. I honed out the surface rust and dial bore gauge says it's a runner. Only bearings that have wear are cam, but I'm replacing all bearings. Plan is an N/A build with original pistons and rods, mild port on the 799 heads, springs, cam and intake if a shaved truck intake won't fit.
I already have the BMW 7 speed DCT from a V8 M3 and the adapter to fit the LS engine. I was going to put this in my Turbo LS C3 Vette, but it didn't fit in the tunnel and the 4L80E has been great in that car.
I'm rebuilding the engine first. Started valve work and porting the heads first.
The exhaust valves were in pretty bad shape. So I set up a jig on my lathe to regrind them. Didn't take much off to get them like new.
Here's the Jig to grind them them.
I also back cut the valves. Some of them were way out of round. Hear are intake and exhaust ready to go back in heads.
Doing a mild port on the heads since the seats need to be cleaned up anyway.
Old school grinder i picked up on ebay 20 years ago paid for itself many times over.
Mild porting is just a slight opening of the valve seats, taking down the valve guide excess material, removing bolt thread hump in the intake and rounding out the floor on the exhaust. The rest is just cleanup with no major changes.
Last edited by LSswap; Nov 22, 2022 at 09:57 PM.
These controllers need to be told lots of stuff and that's often in CAN BUS, for example, drive, park, reverse, and manual shifts as well etc. Maxxecu talks to the BMW M3 shifter, but I don't have one of those.
These controllers need to be told lots of stuff and that's often in CAN BUS, for example, drive, park, reverse, and manual shifts as well etc. Maxxecu talks to the BMW M3 shifter, but I don't have one of those.
edit for context, i'm an embedded systems engineer and work on systems for heavy duty vehicles. which means i never get a chance to actually tinker on my own stuff, so i live vicariously through more motivated, energetic (and similarly skilled) individuals such as yourself
Last edited by bobcratch; Nov 23, 2022 at 01:03 PM.
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This is the car it’s going into
Bought it many years ago as a “not running”. It’s an automatic so not as much appeal as a stick. All it needed was power to the fuel pump and presto it runs. It sat in the back yard waiting patiently.
.Let's knock this out on my 3D printer ITB
Last edited by LSswap; Nov 28, 2022 at 03:04 PM.
I took a very small flap wheel and took down a little of the very sharp edge inside the combustion chamber. The decking leaves very sharp edges.
Now I'm starting to put the heads together. Got new valve stem seals and PAC 1218 springs in anticipation of a moderate cam upgrade.
Last edited by LSswap; Dec 14, 2022 at 09:29 PM.
My friend just offered me an E36 Roller for super cheap.
The E36 can use the F body pan instead of the $1200 special E30 pan.
The entire E36 nose unbolts making the whole install process easier.
The E36 can fit more tire.
The E36 can have the rear end upgraded more easily than the E30
I can sell the E30 for about 8 times the cost of the E36 roller.
So far MaxxEcu can plugin support only the e9x M3 V8 trans (that's the one I have). The MaxxEcu is a combination of ECU and transmission controller. I'm kinda leaning that way because I like the integration and think they can blip the throttle better than me having to rig some throttle blip feature into a GM ECM. I heard some people having a hard time tuning downshifts, but I think that shouldn't be an issue. Although the MaxxEcu is not as well known in the LS crowd, it is a very professional outfit, very popular in Europe, extremely flexible and mostly non proprietary CAN info that can support many OEM CANBUS protocols. They even have the CAN protocol for the Volvo power steering pump, which I plan to use in this build. They also have complete ready to go LS harnesses and base maps. I'll be building my own harness in any case.
I'm going to hold off on pulling the trigger on any of these till I have to.
So when I first bought my DCT, there were no direct plugin options to control it and therefore I gutted the mechatronics (the internal computer) unit in prep for rewiring it. Now that there are direct plug in options, I bought a second DCT, for super cheap (it had burnt out clutches) and will transplant that mechatronics unit into my first trans.
Right now I'm building the engine. That's an enjoyable part of all my builds.











