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Old Dec 17, 2022 | 11:05 PM
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Just picked up a 2009 ly6 from a 2500 Sierra to go in my landcruiser, I would like a little more power than stock and wondered what cam & valve spring combo to go with?
I'm looking to keep/gain as much bottom end torque so wondered if I'm better keeping the vvt?
also going to freshen up the engine before it goes in with new lifters, trays probably do the head gaskets with arp head studs and all other gasket & seals!
anything else recommended ?
im new to ls engines!!
and this will be DD

Thanks for any feedback.

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Old Dec 22, 2022 | 08:12 AM
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Definitely try to keep the VVT. Unfortunately, there aren't as many cam options when you keep the VVT. Here are a few: https://briantooleyracing.com/camsha...s.html?cat=390

I would probably go with this one: https://briantooleyracing.com/btr-ca...892538136.html
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Old Dec 22, 2022 | 08:18 AM
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What valve springs would go with this?
thanks for your reply!!
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Old Dec 23, 2022 | 06:38 AM
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It looks like these would work with that cam: BRIAN TOOLEY RACING .630" LIFT SPRING KIT - STEEL RETAINER - SK003/S/0560/BB

After more searching, I found this one on Summit:
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Manufacturer's Part Number: 156-402-13
Summit Racing Part Number: CCA-156-402-13
This COMP cam has -3 degrees of overlap. That would be better for daily driving. The BTR cam has +5.5 degrees of overlap. That's really not a lot of overlap, but it will be noticeable when it idles.

Your best bet is to call Summit, and ask which springs they recommend for these cams. They might even be able to find other VVT cams that will work better. This is just all that I found in the single bolt cams. I'm not sure if the 3-bolt cams could be used with VVT, but I doubt it. Either way, I would recommend trying to find something similar to the BTR truck cams. I wouldn't go bigger than a stage-2 truck cam for daily driving.
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If you want to keep VVT and gain as much bottom end as possible, then the TSP 5.3 Stage 2 VVT https://www.texas-speed.com/p-5330-t...-camshaft.aspx is a good choice. I believe they grind 6 degrees advance, which would put the IVC @ 32* with no retard. And the overlap is -13*, so should have good part throttle response as well.

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OP,

We like the range of cams that @Utinator and @68Formula are looking at. If you want to keep VVT and have good low-end torque take a look at the Comp Cams CCA-189-400-13. Specs on it are .556/.568, 210/224, 114+9 with -11* of overlap. With no retarding that would put the .050" IVC at 30* ABDC. This will create excellent throttle response and low-end torque with good power gains. Pair the cam with Comps CCA-26918CS-KIT beehive spring kit and it will be happy out to 6,300+. This cam will require Comps CCA-5460
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Originally Posted by Utinator
I'm not sure if the 3-bolt cams could be used with VVT, but I doubt it. Either way, I would recommend trying to find something similar to the BTR truck cams. I wouldn't go bigger than a stage-2 truck cam for daily driving.
We just wanted to clarify that you're assumption is correct. VVT cam phasers will not work with 3-bolt cams. They only work with single bolt cams.
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Originally Posted by Summitracing
OP,

We like the range of cams that @Utinator and @68Formula are looking at. If you want to keep VVT and have good low-end torque take a look at the Comp Cams CCA-156-400-13. Specs on it are .556/.568, 210/224, 114+9 with -11* of overlap. With no retarding that would put the .050" IVC at 30* ABDC. This will create excellent throttle response and low-end torque with good power gains. Pair the cam with Comps CCA-26918CS-KIT beehive spring kit and it will be happy out to 6,300+. This cam will require Comps CCA-5456 cam phaser limiter kit.
Excellent choice. I thought about this one as well, but there were 2 of the same specs that VVT so wasn't sure which part number would be correct for the LY6 application.
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Originally Posted by 68Formula
Excellent choice. I thought about this one as well, but there were 2 of the same specs that VVT so wasn't sure which part number would be correct for the LY6 application.
We'll admit our error and thanks to @68Formula for bringing up the two different options. We fixed post 6 to reflect the correct 2008+ VVT cam and phaser limiter for OP's 2009 LY6. GM used two different VVT actuator designs.

- 2007-08: The actuator has a 62* rotation. GM part number NAL-12585994.

- 2008-15: The actuator has a 52* rotation. GM part number NAL-12606358.

For reference check out our How to Delete VVT on an LS Engine article on our OnAllCylinders Blog. This has good info and images about VVT along with the ins and outs of deleting it.

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Old Jan 19, 2023 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Utinator
Definitely try to keep the VVT. Unfortunately, there aren't as many cam options when you keep the VVT. Here are a few: https://briantooleyracing.com/camsha...s.html?cat=390

I would probably go with this one: https://briantooleyracing.com/btr-ca...892538136.html
would the BTR truck norris cam work? I've had a little look but couldn't see if it was vvt or not.
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Old Jan 19, 2023 | 03:38 PM
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I can assure you that with the narrow LSA the Truck Norris has, it is NOT a VVT cam. Do your homework.
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Old Jan 19, 2023 | 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by G Atsma
I can assure you that with the narrow LSA the Truck Norris has, it is NOT a VVT cam. Do your homework.
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Old Jan 19, 2023 | 07:22 PM
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@Summitracing gave a great hint earlier. A VVT cam cannot be a 3-bolt.

Originally Posted by Summitracing
We just wanted to clarify that you're assumption is correct. VVT cam phasers will not work with 3-bolt cams. They only work with single bolt cams.
Now, a single bolt can be with/without VVT, AFM/non-AFM, or any combination. So if it's a 3 bolt, it's automatically not VVT, but if it's a single bolt you'll need to research more.
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I like the cam that Summit Racing posted.

FWIW I have beat on my 5th gen which has a big cam in it for 25K miles and it has a lot of track passes on it, VVT setup.
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Just one thing I've noticed is that the valve springs are yellow! Is that normal stock colored springs for it?
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Those are probably the stock LS3 springs. The stock LS6 springs are blue.
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Old Jan 25, 2023 | 07:59 PM
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Going to change the oil pump while I'm at it, what's the recommended OEM or aftermarket?
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I had a 64 chevelle with an ly6 , with an l92 cam ,great combo gobs of torque

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Originally Posted by ijimmy
I had a 64 chevelle with an ly6 , with an l92 cam ,great combo gobs of torque
The LY6 and L92 cams are nearly identical. You changed nothing.
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Originally Posted by G Atsma
The LY6 and L92 cams are nearly identical. You changed nothing.
Eliminated the AFM.
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