View Poll Results: Are you interested in swapping the ZF8HP transmission?
Yes, I am interested!
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ZF8HP Transmission swap
12-03-2023, 10:48 AM
#81
I just don't trust myself soldering the pcb... I figured I'll spend the money twice if the sga setup isn't what I want. I want track mode and manual shift modes which it's supposed to do!
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12-04-2023, 01:26 PM
#83
Well, I sucked it up and ordered the turbolamik. After a bunch of research and talking to each owner.. turbolamik caught my attention. 0to60 on youtube also helped with that decision.
Also ordered the sequential shifter(DCT is the name). Look forward to having a transbrake, holding the stick back to load it up, and letting go and getting out of the hole!
Also ordered the sequential shifter(DCT is the name). Look forward to having a transbrake, holding the stick back to load it up, and letting go and getting out of the hole!
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12-04-2023, 02:40 PM
#84
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12-04-2023, 11:45 PM
#85
There is a pin underneath the tranny. I don't remember much else...I am in the research phase, have not had one in front of me.
I was under the impression this was sorted, you must have decided to forgo a TCU flashed by an established company in order to use the turboamik?
Good luck,
Ken
I was under the impression this was sorted, you must have decided to forgo a TCU flashed by an established company in order to use the turboamik?
Good luck,
Ken
12-05-2023, 06:08 AM
#86
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There is a pin underneath the tranny. I don't remember much else...I am in the research phase, have not had one in front of me.
I was under the impression this was sorted, you must have decided to forgo a TCU flashed by an established company in order to use the turboamik?
Good luck,
Ken
I was under the impression this was sorted, you must have decided to forgo a TCU flashed by an established company in order to use the turboamik?
Good luck,
Ken
Can you elaborate on this pin?
The stock TCU is removed when using the TurboLamik.
Andrew
12-05-2023, 09:21 AM
#87
I'm apologize for the brevity. It was my first post, and when I read it once it posted, I did look for the option to edit and found none. While reading your difficulty moving the vehicle, I remembered reading about a failsafe device located under the trans in case of a dead battery, or something to that effect. I have been a fan of the ZF8 for a couple of years, and do read everything I come across in anticipation of starting my project. However; if you have removed the TCU, this probably won't function, and I am sure you must be more knowledgeable than me, but I am surprised you are using a trans manufactured by Chrysler in their own plant as I have read that their's have a higher incidence of problems. I just performed a web search and went straight to it, It is a 5mm screw just to the driver's side of the pan rail. Screw it in until you hear the "click," then 2 more turns to be sure. You will be disconnecting the shift claw at the sound of the click, and this is performed manually so hopefully it will enable you to move the vehicle for towing or what have you. There will be no click as you unscrew the 5mm bolt. " ZF8HP pin for dead battery" is the parameter for my web search.
Good luck with your endeavor!
KKAIRN
Good luck with your endeavor!
KKAIRN
12-05-2023, 09:26 AM
#88
I'm apologize for the brevity. It was my first post, and when I read it once it posted, I did look for the option to edit and found none. While reading your difficulty moving the vehicle, I remembered reading about a failsafe device located under the trans in case of a dead battery, or something to that effect. I have been a fan of the ZF8 for a couple of years, and do read everything I come across in anticipation of starting my project. However; if you have removed the TCU, this probably won't function, and I am sure you must be more knowledgeable than me, but I am surprised you are using a trans manufactured by Chrysler in their own plant as I have read that their's have a higher incidence of problems. I just performed a web search and went straight to it, It is a 5mm screw just to the driver's side of the pan rail. Screw it in until you hear the "click," then 2 more turns to be sure. You will be disconnecting the shift claw at the sound of the click, and this is performed manually so hopefully it will enable you to move the vehicle for towing or what have you. There will be no click as you unscrew the 5mm bolt. " ZF8HP pin for dead battery" is the parameter for my web search.
Good luck with your endeavor!
KKAIRN
Good luck with your endeavor!
KKAIRN
They also have this device(you could easily make one and I likely will out of an old shifter cable)
https://www.seemslegitgarage.com/pro...rk-release-kit
12-05-2023, 03:12 PM
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That makes more sense!
They also have this device(you could easily make one and I likely will out of an old shifter cable)
https://www.seemslegitgarage.com/pro...rk-release-kit
They also have this device(you could easily make one and I likely will out of an old shifter cable)
https://www.seemslegitgarage.com/pro...rk-release-kit
Andrew
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12-14-2023, 01:37 PM
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The ZF 8HP swap journey continues as well. Tom is working on prepping these transmissions for us. These two were probably the worst looking on the outside.
But they sure cleaned up nicely!
The really cool part about these transmissions is that they already have a CV cup on the output! If you guys recall, I was basically the one that popularized the use of modern CV driveshafts in older cars. My Cougar has had a dual CV driveshaft since I built it in 2015.
The GTO has had a CV driveshaft in it since about 2012-2013ish...Both driveshafts use a carbon fiber tube.
So when using the 8HP in an older car, the front CV is already to go! I met with The DriveShaft Shop at the PRI show and they assured me that they can build driveshafts for these swaps.
Andrew
But they sure cleaned up nicely!
The really cool part about these transmissions is that they already have a CV cup on the output! If you guys recall, I was basically the one that popularized the use of modern CV driveshafts in older cars. My Cougar has had a dual CV driveshaft since I built it in 2015.
The GTO has had a CV driveshaft in it since about 2012-2013ish...Both driveshafts use a carbon fiber tube.
So when using the 8HP in an older car, the front CV is already to go! I met with The DriveShaft Shop at the PRI show and they assured me that they can build driveshafts for these swaps.
Andrew
12-21-2023, 06:10 PM
#92
Here is where I am with all of this. I have been trying to gather as much information as I can about both the TurboLamik and the HTG, especially how they integrate with Holley EFI. Sadly, there is precious little information out there. So either it is not being done very much, or people are being very secretive. If you do a google search for Holley and HTG or TurboLamik, there is barely anything out there. Seems Legit Garage claims that they have done "many" Holley EFI systems with the HTG, but even their El Camino uses a GM ECU. I also joined the HTG and TurboLamik FB groups, and while there seems to be quite a bit of interest in these swaps, there is very little actual information.
I am going to the PRI show this coming week and have a meeting on my schedule with the TurboLamik US rep. I also purchased a CAN course from HP Academy, which has been very helpful. That is all I have for now, but I will be making updates as more information becomes available.
Andrew
I am going to the PRI show this coming week and have a meeting on my schedule with the TurboLamik US rep. I also purchased a CAN course from HP Academy, which has been very helpful. That is all I have for now, but I will be making updates as more information becomes available.
Andrew
The largest drawback to using the TurboLamik is that it is almost a blackbox, meaning that the creators / developers are not overly open source at all. There is also a bit of a language barrier and a time zone differential. That being said, once you do reach out to them they are generally more than happy to assist via chat/text message, and to remote into your install is need be.
As you may know the only official support community is the turbolamik forum (which could be considered almost a ghost town), however there is a much much busier FB Group which is not officially supported but several dealers, installers, and a couple of tuners do frequent and help out. Much of what the userbase has figured out has seemingly been shared through threre. Of course, because its a FBGroup, searching for information is a pain in the butt.
Ultimately most installs are pretty much ready to run "out of the box" as the "maps" are incredibly universal initially. The software more-or-less monitors input and output speed and extrapolates or interpolates from there.
I spent a few months last winter reading up on zf8 control options, and then on the TurboLamik specifically. I got my kit, did the valvebody harness work, and got it in the car in spring. Drove it all summer and I spent far more time tinkering with the motor than I ever did with the trans.
Turbo LQ4 with a zf8hp70 out of a Ram (I was an FCA tech) in a 3800 lb car. Ran MaxxECU for the motor, wired into the same CAN and setup basic information sharing between them.
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12-21-2023, 06:14 PM
#93
The ZF 8HP swap journey continues as well. Tom is working on prepping these transmissions for us. These two were probably the worst looking on the outside.
But they sure cleaned up nicely!
The really cool part about these transmissions is that they already have a CV cup on the output! If you guys recall, I was basically the one that popularized the use of modern CV driveshafts in older cars. My Cougar has had a dual CV driveshaft since I built it in 2015.
The GTO has had a CV driveshaft in it since about 2012-2013ish...Both driveshafts use a carbon fiber tube.
So when using the 8HP in an older car, the front CV is already to go! I met with The DriveShaft Shop at the PRI show and they assured me that they can build driveshafts for these swaps.
Andrew
But they sure cleaned up nicely!
The really cool part about these transmissions is that they already have a CV cup on the output! If you guys recall, I was basically the one that popularized the use of modern CV driveshafts in older cars. My Cougar has had a dual CV driveshaft since I built it in 2015.
The GTO has had a CV driveshaft in it since about 2012-2013ish...Both driveshafts use a carbon fiber tube.
So when using the 8HP in an older car, the front CV is already to go! I met with The DriveShaft Shop at the PRI show and they assured me that they can build driveshafts for these swaps.
Andrew
For example I pulled the stock 3bolt off of the 6hp21 trans that came in my project car and bolted it onto the RAM zf8h70... and saved the 4bolt ujoint style for when I need to make a custom driveshaft with a rear end swap.
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12-21-2023, 06:19 PM
#94
Oh yeah almost forgot - MaxxECU is expecting to rollout zf8 support by Q2 2024, it'd be CAN based control (similar to CANTcu) so you won't get Transbrake control like the Lamik (which uses direct solenoid control), but with the MaxxECU you'd then only need ONE controller for both motor and trans.
The Maxxecu does currently support controlling a BMW DCT and 4L60 / 4L80 I believe but I'm not sure of the details on that as I didn't need it for my application. I do however love my MaxxECU Race as the engine controller - I originally chose it over the Holley Term-X because the Maxx has a lot more native CAN protocols built in, and so all of my swap chassis relevant systems stayed alive. Now adding in zf8 control is a huge bonus for me.
The Maxxecu does currently support controlling a BMW DCT and 4L60 / 4L80 I believe but I'm not sure of the details on that as I didn't need it for my application. I do however love my MaxxECU Race as the engine controller - I originally chose it over the Holley Term-X because the Maxx has a lot more native CAN protocols built in, and so all of my swap chassis relevant systems stayed alive. Now adding in zf8 control is a huge bonus for me.
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12-21-2023, 06:59 PM
#96
Those factory transmissions are HUGE in comparison. The 6 and 8 speed gm transmissions are complete junk. The 10 speed would be amazing... But it's massive. This fits right where a 4l80 fits.
12-21-2023, 07:03 PM
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12-21-2023, 11:51 PM
#99