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Old Aug 28, 2005 | 01:43 AM
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I finally got my engine and trans for the swap. It's a LS1/T56 out of a '01 Camaro complete with wiring harness and all accessories with 36,000 miles on the clock. I'm just curious what all I should do to it before it goes in the car. I'm planning on a lightweight flywheel, new spark plugs (just on general principle) and a 160 degree thermostat. Does anyone else have any ideas on things I should do while the engine and trans are out of the car? This is going into an '85 Celica GTS.
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Old Aug 28, 2005 | 02:08 AM
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H/C and a turbo...seriously tho, get a new cam, springs, and a new TB/Intake combo.
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Old Aug 28, 2005 | 08:22 AM
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I wouldn't do any performance mods beyond the ones you have mentioned The motor in that car will be plenty fast enough. Save your money for beefing up the drive line. (stonger limited slip rear, driveshaft, ZO6 clutch).
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Old Aug 28, 2005 | 01:10 PM
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If I want to do a new TB/intake I can do it in the car. I'm more concerned about things that will be a pain in the *** once the engine is installed. I thought the '01s already came with the Z06 clutch but I might be wrong. I have 3.42 gears out of a 2wd truck and have recently rebuilt the diff and put in a Tru Trac torsen limited slip. I don't think I'll need a new cam or anything, the car will weigh right around 2800lbs with a full tank of gas. Looking at the engine I think I want to get rid of the air injection to clean things up a bit but that's about it. Thanks for the help guys and I'm always open to suggestions.
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Old Aug 28, 2005 | 01:34 PM
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You'll never get through BAR without the air injection and it doesn't hurt performance at all.

Don't know if you want to use it on the street, just FYI.

I'd just inspect the plugs for wear. These engines don't need the frequent plug changes from yesteryear.

Change the clutch and Slave/Throwout. It's a PITA once the engine/trannyis in the car, and it's about $300 worth of cheap insurance that you won't have to do it for 50k miles.

Other than that, I can't think of anything else to do before putting it in.
I'd love to see pictures once you get it in. What year car is it?
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Old Aug 29, 2005 | 08:31 PM
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I know the BAR won't like it but I don't have to get the car smogged and I don't have the actual air injection pump, it didn't come with the engine. I plan on keeping all the hoses and stuff so I can put it on if it's actually needed but for now I'd like to keep things simple. I'm glad people on here seem to agree with my not wanting/needing to mod it very much, that'll help the old wallet a bit.
It's an 85 Celica GTS, the last year of the rwd celicas and the last year they still looked like the supras.
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Old Aug 29, 2005 | 08:39 PM
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Know anybody that has a lightweight flywheel on an LS1? Is there a downside to the reduced rotational inertia over stock? I think the only two places I've heard of that being performed were on a C5R buildup and Gran Tourisom for PlayStation!

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I finally got my engine and trans for the swap. It's a LS1/T56 out of a '01 Camaro complete with wiring harness and all accessories with 36,000 miles on the clock. I'm just curious what all I should do to it before it goes in the car. I'm planning on a lightweight flywheel, new spark plugs (just on general principle) and a 160 degree thermostat. Does anyone else have any ideas on things I should do while the engine and trans are out of the car? This is going into an '85 Celica GTS.
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Old Aug 30, 2005 | 01:25 AM
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I wanted to do it for two reasons: 1. I had a lightweight flywheel on my old engine setup, 2.4L turbo, and loved it over stock
2. I want to keep all the weight off the car I can manage. I'd like to not gain any weight in the swap if possible.
A friend of mine has a 96 Camaro (LT1, I know) and she just got a lightweight flywheel and says it's great. I'm not worried about it since I have smaller tires than come stock on a Camaro (245/45/16) and the car weighs a solid 500lbs less.
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Old Aug 30, 2005 | 07:36 AM
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That's cool! I am wondering what the downsides are though... if there are no downsides, then the OEM unit would have been lighter weight, right?! Not saying it's a bad choice, I'm just wondering what you're giving up that GM didn't want to loose with a lighter unit. Idle quality maybe?

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I wanted to do it for two reasons: 1. I had a lightweight flywheel on my old engine setup, 2.4L turbo, and loved it over stock
2. I want to keep all the weight off the car I can manage. I'd like to not gain any weight in the swap if possible.
A friend of mine has a 96 Camaro (LT1, I know) and she just got a lightweight flywheel and says it's great. I'm not worried about it since I have smaller tires than come stock on a Camaro (245/45/16) and the car weighs a solid 500lbs less.
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Old Aug 30, 2005 | 12:12 PM
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Know anybody that has a lightweight flywheel on an LS1? Is there a downside to the reduced rotational inertia over stock?
I know two people with a lightened flywheel on their LS1 motors (NyToy and Rx-Ben) and I have driven both and their cars freakin' RIP! But in comparison to my stock flywheel'd LS1 it is not noticable to me actually, although it is a good place for weight savings and there has to be a difference once you get to the track and start measuring with a timer and not a butt dyno. a few reasons GM used a heavy *** flywheel is the usual stuff... cost (one piece steel = cheap), durability (steel = beefy), simplicity (no separate friction surface) and the car doesnt drop revs too fast for wimpy old lady drivers to complain about. I'd have a lightweight flywheel on my LS1 if it was in the budget.

Hey back on track, WHERE'S THE PICS! congrats on the swap project, I'm sure it will be fun to drive! you really think it will weigh in at 2800 pounds? thats more than my 1987 RX7 with an LS1T56 in it and mine has monster wide wheels stuff in there.
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Old Aug 30, 2005 | 01:25 PM
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I would think the reason GM uses a heaveir flyheel for stock applications is drivability under routine driving conditions. The heavier flywheel will make the car easier for Joe Public to drive. The stock F bodys are in the 3500 pound range, that heavier flywheel spinning makes it easier to get the car moving on a low RPM launch like pulling away from your house, or a stop sign with a cop behind you. You won't have to rev the engine as high to get moving. The down side of the heavier flywheel is it will not rev as quickly under high performance driving conditions. The lighter weight wheel will rev up quicker as it has less inertia to overcome.

The other considerations such as cost, ease of manufacture and durability also apply.

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Im in, sound like a beach cruzers dream light, fast reving!!!
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Old Aug 31, 2005 | 12:07 PM
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I had a fidanza on both my 98 vette and the 00 z28 I had.

Always made it rev quicker, but there is additional noise that comes with the flywheel. Another reason that GM probably didn't go this route aside from expense.

It's not bad and it's not detrimental to the function of the tranny, but it's there nonetheless. Vette made more noise than the Z FWIW.
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