LS1 in a LT1
LS1 in a LT1 ok heres the deal, i have a 93 z28 with about 125k miles on it,oh and its bone stock besides a 160* thermostat. and i took it to my mechanic to have it looked at cause it wasnt running right and he said that it has a blown head gasket. my mechanic doesnt like to pull off heads unless he pulls the motor, which isnt a huge deal cause hes good and i get a good deal cause i go to him alot and a bunch of guys that i know go to him for all of there performance upgrades........ but since he would have the motor out i was going to get some performance heads and cam and have him put it in while the motor was out. or this is where u guys come in on the advice. my friend (ddnspider) is going to sell his motor in his car a complete longblock with headers and truduals exhaust for like 2k and its making about 350 RWHP, and it has about 80k miles. i was wondering how difficult it would be to drop his LS1 in to my car and about how much it would cost and if u guys think it would be worth the money or should i just mod my LT1. if i keep my LT1 im going to do heads and a cam and drive it prolli for a year maybe 2, and then i want to sell it and get a TA or an SS with an LS1 in it, or whatever else i like when the time comes. thanks
My oppinion, fix the head gasket and get the car running (find a local board member that can do it on the side for far less $$). Then trade it in for an LS1 powered ride. You'll be money ahead unless you plan to keep the car for a long time. By the time you buy your friends LS1, pay to have the work done, plus all the LS1 specific parts you need, you'll be into it at LEAST 3500-4000. Just doesn't seem worth it if you plan to trade it off anyway???
I'm doing an LS1 swap in my 97',,, BUT, I've owned the car for 6 years so it's not going anywhere, I can do 99% of the work myself and it's a second car so I'm not in a hurry to do it.
Just my .02 worth.
Mike
I'm doing an LS1 swap in my 97',,, BUT, I've owned the car for 6 years so it's not going anywhere, I can do 99% of the work myself and it's a second car so I'm not in a hurry to do it.
Just my .02 worth.
Mike
Mod the lt1 the ls1 swap is just too much work and their is a lot of little things that has to be done as well as big things that would cost a ton to have someone else do for you. Their is a lot of time in something like that. I would say get your heads ported by T.E.A and then get a custom cam to match the heads. JMO
he would do it with the motor in the car but he would rather drop the motor, i dont want to leave it stock though. so i dont really care if he pulls the motor, that is if i dont get the LS1. i was actually just looking at the new summit catalog i just got and they have a LT1 to LT4 conversion kit in there and comes with LT4 heads, with valves and springs, aluminum LT4 intake manifold, Hot cam with 1.6:1 ratio bow tie roller rockers and all the gaskets, and it says it should be good for 425 hp. for $2300. do u think that would be a better way to go. if i do all of that stuff i think id have to keep the car around for a long time.
I would not go with the LT4 setup. That money would be far better spent on a set of Loyd Elliot heads and custom cam.
If you keep the LT1, you might want to post up in the LT1 section to get a better idea what you'd need to do to get the desired hp/performance you want from the car.
Again, just my .02.
Mike
If you keep the LT1, you might want to post up in the LT1 section to get a better idea what you'd need to do to get the desired hp/performance you want from the car.
Again, just my .02.
Mike
Originally Posted by Mikey 97Z M6
I would not go with the LT4 setup. That money would be far better spent on a set of Loyd Elliot heads and custom cam.
If you keep the LT1, you might want to post up in the LT1 section to get a better idea what you'd need to do to get the desired hp/performance you want from the car.
Again, just my .02.
Mike
If you keep the LT1, you might want to post up in the LT1 section to get a better idea what you'd need to do to get the desired hp/performance you want from the car.
Again, just my .02.
Mike
. whats wrong with the LT4 setup though?
Originally Posted by ls1charged
yeah, i was just looking at the magazine again and it says its only good for 1996-1997 LT1's anyways so i cant use it . whats wrong with the LT4 setup though?
. whats wrong with the LT4 setup though?There is nothing 'wrong' with the LT4 setup except it's highly over-priced for the amount of performance you get. It would be like spending 1000.00 on a nitrous kit when everyone else can get the same kit under a different label for 600.00. Just doesn't make sense, economically speaking.
You can go a long ways with 2300.00 on an LT1 platform. Pick up some parts used and go even further....
Ported heads
Cam
Roller rockers
Full exhaust (exhaust doesn't really wear out, buy it used and save big $$)
Mike
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Do the swap. see my sig. don't listen to people who say it is too hard. It isn't, just time consuming and expensive if you are paying somebody. let me know if you have any questions. I have a 1993 Z also.
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Originally Posted by INFERNO
Do the swap. see my sig. don't listen to people who say it is too hard. It isn't, just time consuming and expensive if you are paying somebody. let me know if you have any questions. I have a 1993 Z also.
Originally Posted by 93formto98T/A
I have a 93 formy and did the swap. The total including paying the labor for someone else to do the main swap was $5500.
I sold my modded lt1 and lt1 parts for about $3500 and bought an engine out of a 2003 LS6 with everything minus pcm for $1000 (my buddies work at a junkyard). All together I have about $2000 into it including the motor so i am about $1000 ahead (until the H/C/N2O). I also did EVERYTHING by myself.
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Originally Posted by Jditlfm
Mod the lt1 the ls1 swap is just too much work and their is a lot of little things that has to be done as well as big things that would cost a ton to have someone else do for you. Their is a lot of time in something like that. I would say get your heads ported by T.E.A and then get a custom cam to match the heads. JMO
Originally Posted by robb4964
Agreed......LS1's are great but you can have a forged stroker built for the total cost involved"4k" . Consider your options with the LT1 first.
First, the LS1 is much much easier to work on in a 4th gen. Two, the LSX weighs about 100lbs less than an LT1, combine that with an tubular K-member (need to replace it anyway) and that jumps to 130lbs off the nose. Three, I can make just as much, or more power with a H/C stock cube LS1 as a stroked H/C LT1. Four, no more opti problems,,,, EVER!! Five, LS1 clutches are cheaper and work far better IMO.
With the cost of LSX performance parts coming down, it just seems like a logical choice for me.
I'd buy a LS1 car, but I truly like the looks of the LT1 styles better. Mike
yup. i think im just going to fix my car and sell it and save my money and get a newer car with an LS1 in it. i know more about LS1's then i do LT1's and i just want a newer car i guess, i like the looks better and i love whats under the hood. i just wanted to say thanks to all of u guys who gave me some ideas and gave me info on things that i woud have to do, i appreciate all the help and support.