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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 09:49 PM
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F-Bobby, teehee! Can I use that as a quote in my sig?!

Honestly the '05 GTO I use as a daily driver attracts too much attention, even with tinted windows. I guess I should not complain when they sell half as many C6s.

The reason for the estimate in weight is when I removed everything I weigh it on the digital bathroom scale, aside from the engine and tranmission which the weight is published. Remember on those old cars, lesser than C5 and later all suspension components were stamped steel. Now Buick Rendevous AWD have aluminum subframe and control arms.

The LS1 might gain 100 lbs. and bigger brakes and tires might break even with the 1980's stock Beretta stuff. We're working with almost all aluminum as opposed to the stock steel stuff. Along with no AC and power steering support I am looking at 2500 lbs. There is over 50% weight savings with alum. over steel.

http://www.key-to-metals.com/Article99.htm

A trip to the scale will verify but the power to weight ratio of the Beretta with 350whp will match the C6 Z06. The aluminum over steel on moving suspension components should be easily controlled by the shocks.

I knocked closed to 12 lbs. off each corner on my '05 GTO going with lighter weight SSR GT2 and wheels compared to stock. You can feel turn-in better and the ride quality is better.

The latest Car and Driver has a review of some American supercars. Look at the times from 100-150 in the high hp, high down force Saleen and lower hp Mosler. Saleen cannot match the Mosler. There is more than just weight differences going on.

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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 10:55 PM
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Time to "unpimp zee auto"!

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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 11:05 PM
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What exactly happened to the C5? Are you going to try to use the C5 wheels as well? I bet this will be a sweet car when it's done.
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 07:04 PM
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It looks like a roll over. The only history is the VIN and they usually don't say much other than it is a salvage title. Which means the frame is probably tweaked and worth repairing. That is fine with me as I just need the rolling chasis. I'll give a full report with pics.

Yes, the whole rolling chasis is going under the Beretta, wheels and all.
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 11:12 PM
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VEHICLE INFORMATION
Merchandising Model : 1YY07 -2000 CORVETTE COUPE Warranty Start Date : 10/09/1999
BARS Order Type : 70 - RETAIL - STOCK
Delivering Dealer : GRINDSTAFF CHEVROLET-CADILLAC OF JOHNSON CITY
PO BOX 4950 CRS
JOHNSON CITY , TN 37602-4950
(423) 282-2121



CLAIM HISTORY
R.O Date R.O Number Type Labor Operation Odometer Reading
08/19/2004 027453 # V1145 - 04006 - PERFORM REPROGRAM AND FUNCTIONAL TEST - MANUALS ON 54343 miles
09/25/2002 152068 # V0743 - ECL RELAY HARNESS REPLACE 18710 miles
09/25/2002 152068 # D0540 - SENSOR, IN CAR - REPLACE 18710 miles
11/29/2000 107740 # V0505 - INSPECT LAP BELT RETRACTORS,INSTALL WEBBING GUIDES 9024 miles
11/29/2000 107740 # H0137 - ROTOR ASSEMBLY - REAR - BOTH - R&R OR REPLACE 9024 miles
08/31/1999 504416 I Z7000 - PRE-DELIVERY INSPECTION - BASE TIME 0 miles



VEHICLE BUILD
Merchandising Model : 1YY07 -2000 CORVETTE COUPE
Gross Vehicle Weight Rating : 1678 kg (3700 lb) Order Number : BRHHXP
Build Date : 08/30/1999 Build Plant : 1Y5Y - BOWLING GREEN
OPTION CODES
AAB AG2 - SIX-WAY POWER PASSENGER SEAT
AK5 - DRIVER & RIGHT FRONT PASSENGER AIR BAGS AQ9 - SEAT FRT BUCKET, PASS, DRIVER
BGR B34 - COLOR-KEYED FRONT FLOOR MATS -CARPETED
B84 - BODY SIDE MOLDINGS CJ2
C2L - DUAL REMOVABLE ROOF PANELS DL5 - ROADSIDE SERVICE INFORMATION DECAL
DL8 - HEATED REARVIEW MIRRORS D42 - REAR COMPARTMENT CARGO COVER
FE3 - SPORT SUSPENSION FE9 - FEDERAL EMISSIONS
GU6 - REAR AXLE 3.42 RATIO IL3
JL9 - 4-WHEEL DISC ANTI-LOCK BRAKE SYSTEM K63
LS1 MM6 - 6-SPEED MANUAL TRANSMISSION
MN6 - 6-SPEED MANUAL TRANSMISSION NF2 - FEDERAL EMISSION SYSTEM
NK4 - LEATHER WRAPPED STEERING WHEEL QD4
T82 - TWILIGHT SENTINEL HEADLAMPS T96 - FOG LAMPS
UL0 - AM/FM STEREO CASSETTE RADIO UV7
UZ6 U1S
U52 - ELECTRONIC INSTRUMENTATION VM3 - CONSUMER INFORMATION LABEL
V49 V73 - STATEMENT OF VEHICLE CERT.-U.S. /CANADA
XGG YGH
Z51 - PERFORMANCE HANDLING PACKAGE 1SA - OPTION PACKAGE 01
19I - INT EBONY INTERIOR TRIM 193
41U – BLACK
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Old Mar 20, 2006 | 06:24 AM
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Heading south to see a "southern belle" with a fiberglas body(not really 'glas) in Georgia. Post pics later this week.

Also if anyone needs anything from a '00 C5 let me know as I'll stuff available this weekend, aside from drive train and electrical
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Old Mar 28, 2006 | 10:58 AM
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Two days to pick it up and a little more than two to disassemble....

..and guess what the C5 sub frame measures at it's widest point? Yup, 36 inches! The hole centers are slightly smaller but with the wider GTO rails compared to my project car. This is getting interesting(Norm rubs his hands together!)

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Old Mar 28, 2006 | 04:23 PM
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sounds good, pictures no workie though
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Old Mar 28, 2006 | 06:11 PM
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C5 with a body swap... Hmmm Sounds familiar Should be wild when it's done.
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Old Mar 28, 2006 | 06:47 PM
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Very similar project, making the old new again. At least up to date from 1988.

I will not useing the frame like you did since the Beretta is uni-body. With it being FWD to start out with the rear will have to reinforced.

That should be quite looker with great handling when your finished.
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Old Mar 29, 2006 | 10:37 PM
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How about some carnage photos? Jim cut out the airbags with a knife, but I did not take a pic. He was removing the rear left fender liner and found some masonary that I know was not used as sound deadening. There is a few more pieves still in there. The right rear wheel was bent as you can see in one of the previous photos. In this batch is a picture of the broken hub. Another pic shows a rock that has gone half way through the floor.

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Old Apr 2, 2006 | 09:14 PM
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Get ready for launch!

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Old Apr 2, 2006 | 09:16 PM
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Get ready for launch!

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Old Apr 3, 2006 | 07:37 AM
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seems like a lot of work to go through
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Old Apr 3, 2006 | 12:47 PM
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Oh, but it be better than new!
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Old Apr 3, 2006 | 01:36 PM
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May be a lot of work but it'll be unique and definitely will be a sleeper...
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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 08:12 AM
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C5 frame lift-off photos, frame, rolling gear....

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Old Apr 7, 2006 | 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Malicious
May be a lot of work but it'll be unique and definitely will be a sleeper...
Yeah, new meaning to the term, beater.
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Old Apr 7, 2006 | 08:10 AM
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That's pretty damn cool. Once you get this done you're gonna make the guys @ the beretta forums go nuts
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Old Apr 7, 2006 | 10:40 PM
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keliente, I already have a following of groupies.

Ready for touch down!

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