Motor Mounts - LSx to SBC
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Motor Mounts - LSx to SBC I am thinking about making a little product after struggling with the stuff that's available. Right now, you can buy an LSx adapter plate and a separate SBC mount. Do you think an LSx to SBC mount would be a good product made as one piece? I guss I would have to make two types; short and wide, and tall and narrow. I would make them without the hole drilled for the chassis mounting bolt. That way, they could be drilled where needed for each installation. Let me know what you think.
For sure! If I wasnt already set up, i'd buy that for a nickel. Looks excellent. Just be sure to give some dimensions, as many of us shy away from stuff we cant' measure. (for exhaust, firewall, steering, frame, ground clearance, etc..) They look great, polished 6061 or 7075? What's the scoop on price, should you decide to manufacture them?
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Oops! The pictures are of the parts you can buy today...not what I would design. The pictures show one side that went together properly. The other side wouldn't fit because the parts don't fit together well.
In my design, the three bolts holding the SBC mount to the LSx plate would be eliminated. The SBC mount would be integral to the LSx plate.
I am thinking polished or chromed CNC billet 6061-T6 and red or black urethane. I have no idea what they might cost.
In my design, the three bolts holding the SBC mount to the LSx plate would be eliminated. The SBC mount would be integral to the LSx plate.
I am thinking polished or chromed CNC billet 6061-T6 and red or black urethane. I have no idea what they might cost.
The plate is not such a big deal actually, if you want one that you can position your own mount on, that is easy enough to make out of a flat piece of steel or aluminum. I think the item that would be great to have would be the motor mount itself without the holes drilled so you could position the the way you want. For those that want an insulated mount with rubber or neoprene, I think that having the plate and mount seperate is best. If you wanted to have a solid mount then having a one piece unit would be ok.
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I think it would be a great product idea... but here's a question... does that plate from S&P interfere with the A/C compressor? That could be the big up-side to your product... if you used the stock LS1 mount that's farther towards the back of the block, you could eliminate any potential interferance with the A/C compressor.
But first off, does that plate and mount interfere with the A/C compressor?
But first off, does that plate and mount interfere with the A/C compressor?
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Originally Posted by Stu Cool
The plate is not such a big deal actually, if you want one that you can position your own mount on, that is easy enough to make out of a flat piece of steel or aluminum. I think the item that would be great to have would be the motor mount itself without the holes drilled so you could position the the way you want. For those that want an insulated mount with rubber or neoprene, I think that having the plate and mount seperate is best. If you wanted to have a solid mount then having a one piece unit would be ok.
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Originally Posted by FastKat
I think it would be a great product idea... but here's a question... does that plate from S&P interfere with the A/C compressor? That could be the big up-side to your product... if you used the stock LS1 mount that's farther towards the back of the block, you could eliminate any potential interferance with the A/C compressor.
But first off, does that plate and mount interfere with the A/C compressor?
But first off, does that plate and mount interfere with the A/C compressor?
Which is more important; mounting the LSx so the bell housing flange is located at the same spot as the SBC, or moving the mount so the A/C fits without changing brackets? It is really hard to know, with all of the different setups, where to drill the holes.
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Originally Posted by Builder
That's a very good question...that I can't answer. It will be some time before I get to the A/C on my setup. I can see this is going to take some reseach before such a product could be developed.
Which is more important; mounting the LSx so the bell housing flange is located at the same spot as the SBC, or moving the mount so the A/C fits without changing brackets? It is really hard to know, with all of the different setups, where to drill the holes.
Which is more important; mounting the LSx so the bell housing flange is located at the same spot as the SBC, or moving the mount so the A/C fits without changing brackets? It is really hard to know, with all of the different setups, where to drill the holes.
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Originally Posted by billg
The problem you will have with a one piece mount is that each "series" of the older cars actually use 2 different mounts... Im not trying to "rain on your parade" and youve got a great idea but theres gonna be a lot of "pitfalls" in it once you get the wrong(?) people buying them! HTHs.
Originally Posted by Builder
No, I underdstand what you are saying and I agree. It's not as simple as it sounds to make a one-piece mount...albeit an ideal solution. There are many iterations to consider. If you were to choose just one setup (say, the most popular), what do you suppose it would be? If I decide to do this, I will have to start with my setup first, then do the most popular next, maybe then continue to add varieties.
What I am wondering is if a well engineered product can give you both. Putting the bellhousing in the same spot a regular SBC should fit will be a priority and simplify the swap for a lot of people. If you use a regular LS1 motor mount (that mounts a littile farther back on the block than the SBC mount) you will clear the A/C compressor... the question is can you sneak a pedestal around the A/C compressor to mount up to the mounting point on the chasis?
Originally Posted by Builder
That's a very good question...that I can't answer. It will be some time before I get to the A/C on my setup. I can see this is going to take some reseach before such a product could be developed.
Which is more important; mounting the LSx so the bell housing flange is located at the same spot as the SBC, or moving the mount so the A/C fits without changing brackets? It is really hard to know, with all of the different setups, where to drill the holes.
Which is more important; mounting the LSx so the bell housing flange is located at the same spot as the SBC, or moving the mount so the A/C fits without changing brackets? It is really hard to know, with all of the different setups, where to drill the holes.
Originally Posted by FastKat
What I am wondering is if a well engineered product can give you both. Putting the bellhousing in the same spot a regular SBC should fit will be a priority and simplify the swap for a lot of people. If you use a regular LS1 motor mount (that mounts a littile farther back on the block than the SBC mount) you will clear the A/C compressor... the question is can you sneak a pedestal around the A/C compressor to mount up to the mounting point on the chasis?
