Conversions & Swaps LSX Engines in Non-LSX Vehicles
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Using a tach as a speedo

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 4, 2006 | 08:29 PM
  #1  
70 LS1's Avatar
Thread Starter
Conversion master
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 861
Likes: 1
From: Gig Harbor, Wa
Default Using a tach as a speedo

Tell me what you think of this idea. My speedo and tach are the same size with the same sweep to the gauge face. I am thinking of taking a tach and swapping the speedo gauge face onto it then either using one of those speedo ratio calibrator things or maybe tuning the PCM to give out the right pulses per mile.
Attached Thumbnails Using a tach as a speedo-speedo.jpg   Using a tach as a speedo-tach.jpg  

Last edited by 70 LS1; Aug 4, 2006 at 10:17 PM.
Reply
Old Aug 5, 2006 | 01:25 AM
  #2  
67RSCamaroVette's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
20 Year Member
iTrader: (63)
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 1,959
Likes: 4
From: The trailer park
Default

who needs a speedometer? that'd be awesome if it worked, you dont REALLY need the translator though.. just tell your passengers your car is so fast that it jumps back in time, and that's why your speedo drops 30mph every time you shift. if all else fails, just grab a VSS speedo out of something else and merge the two. Keep us updated.
olly
Reply
Old Aug 5, 2006 | 12:44 PM
  #3  
70 LS1's Avatar
Thread Starter
Conversion master
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 861
Likes: 1
From: Gig Harbor, Wa
Default

It wouldn't drop when you shift. The tach signal and the VSS signal are very similar. If you put the speedo face on a second tach and hooked it up to the VSS, then it should work just fine as a speedo after you calibrate it.

I think I'm going to have to try it.
Reply
Old Aug 7, 2006 | 12:53 PM
  #4  
70 LS1's Avatar
Thread Starter
Conversion master
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 861
Likes: 1
From: Gig Harbor, Wa
Default

Anyone else have any thoughts on this or tried it themselves?
Reply
Old Aug 7, 2006 | 01:00 PM
  #5  
MrDude_1's Avatar
TECH Junkie
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 3,368
Likes: 5
From: Charleston, SC
Default

you wont have a Odometer this way......


personally, id jsut send the gauge off to be converted over to a electronic speedo. while i havent done it, i know there are companies out there that do that sort of thing.
Reply
Old Aug 7, 2006 | 02:11 PM
  #6  
70 LS1's Avatar
Thread Starter
Conversion master
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 861
Likes: 1
From: Gig Harbor, Wa
Default

I thought about that. Classic Instruments quoted me about $2000 to do the speedo and tach.
Reply
Old Aug 7, 2006 | 02:29 PM
  #7  
MrDude_1's Avatar
TECH Junkie
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 3,368
Likes: 5
From: Charleston, SC
Default

Originally Posted by 70 LS1
I thought about that. Classic Instruments quoted me about $2000 to do the speedo and tach.
holy shiznit!
and they stay in biz with those prices?!
Reply
Old Aug 7, 2006 | 03:53 PM
  #8  
70 LS1's Avatar
Thread Starter
Conversion master
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 861
Likes: 1
From: Gig Harbor, Wa
Default

Their normal gauges are quite reasonable. Its just their custom sets.

Know anyone else that would convert a mechanical speedo to electric?
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-2

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-5

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

 
story-9

10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Aug 14, 2006 | 01:10 AM
  #9  
G-Body's Avatar
sawzall wielding director
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 3,148
Likes: 12
From: Downers Grove, IL
Default

A few people have converted their mechanical speedos to electric so far. The only tricky parts are designing the new gauge face (unless you get lucky enough to find an electronic speedo with the same spacing as your factory speedo) and finding an electonic speedo with an odometer that lines up. I ended up cutting the odometer hole in my factory face so that I could read the odometer and then using my new overlay face to cover the old odometer hole. I didn`t really search too much for a perfect line up since I found an autometer electonic speedo on e-bay for $30. It even had an old style mechanical odometer instead of digital readout. I was able to just remove the pointer, put it behind my speedo face and drop the pointer from my original el camino speedo right on.
Reply
Old Aug 14, 2006 | 09:16 AM
  #10  
70 LS1's Avatar
Thread Starter
Conversion master
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 861
Likes: 1
From: Gig Harbor, Wa
Default

Thats cool, G-Body. The sweep on my stock gauges is way too much for an autometer. The electric tach is basically a speedometer that takes pulse inputs and displays an output. By swapping the speedo face on one, it would act the same but instead of showing engine RPM it would show speed which is basically derived from trans RPM.
Reply
Old Aug 14, 2006 | 11:39 PM
  #11  
G-Body's Avatar
sawzall wielding director
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 3,148
Likes: 12
From: Downers Grove, IL
Default

I didn`t look at the pic last night. You do have a large sweep on that face. I think that using a tach will work since I believe the tachometer signal is considered a square wave DC signal and that is what the PCM puts out. And I know that with EFI live 7 you can change the pulse output of the PCM since Jesse did that on my computer so that my cruise control would work. That would allow you to calibrate the tach/speedo.
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:29 PM.

story-0
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-1
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-2
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-5
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-6
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE
story-7
Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

Slideshow: A heavily reworked 1972 K5 Blazer swaps its off-road roots for a low-slung street-focused build with modern V8 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-09 18:08:45


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There are thousands of used Camaros on the market but we think you should avoid these 10

By | 2026-02-17 17:09:30


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

Slideshows: Which one of these myths do you believe?

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-28 18:10:11


VIEW MORE