s10 ls1 guys......
im dealing with the same clearance issues except i have fans inside my engine bay. im not moving the rad or condenser, nor is the engine moving. since no intake hoses will work, not even the cobra head, the only other option is to get your lego set out and make your own tube to curve around that corner and still salvage some space between the rad.
s10_ls1, thanx for all that info but this isnt a for sale section.
So you used the Fbody acces. How did you fit it in there without the alt. hitting the power steering box. and also you can run it over the rad hose...there is more room from there to the hood than you think. I can stick my hand on top of my MAF...see pic from earlier in post...it sticks up a good 3 inches...and i got clearance of an inch or 1.5 above it still. So see if you can go that way.
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eagleuh1 i am just north of burlington..which is where i am in the auto collision program down here...anyway...when you guys say f body access. what do u mean by that...so different models of the LS1 have different belt routings..is that it? and i have my fans infront of the radiator pushing cool air instead of pulling...and clearance...my hood rubs against the pipe that comes out of the 90...i got the reducing 90 from 4 to 3.5 inch because the mafs sensor is 3.5 inches...what i might end up doing is building a brace to hold the hose so it don;t rub on the power steering pully and belt...and try putting the intake tube right on that hose and hope for the best...then modify the radiator support for more cold air behide my headlight
Last edited by blackls1s10; Feb 19, 2007 at 04:17 PM.
Yes different models of LS1 have dif routing....Camaro/Firebird (fbody) Then the Corvette...then the truck...then the GTO and also the CTS-V....although some are very close to the same...each is a little different. The fbody is the original that would have come on a 98 camaro motor. So the alt is down driver side low...and the power steering is on top of it...i was wondering how close your alternator is to the steering box? Did you mount your motor higher to clear that alt and that is why you are so close to the hood?
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i wish i could answer your question....i had a shop put in the engine/tranny..everything the conversion required....and i know it might sound insane..but i went 1 year and 8 months without my truck!! it was a side job but they did do a good job...so i can;t really say yes or no, and i have a cowl hood...so i can cut some braces for the hood and prolly make it work...
Different subject...Shifter...??
I don;t have a Neutral saftey switch....can someone please direct me to a shifter that works good??...right now i have some angle iron running up through the floor that works...but it's not practical
pics would be great too..of your center consle
Different subject...Shifter...??
I don;t have a Neutral saftey switch....can someone please direct me to a shifter that works good??...right now i have some angle iron running up through the floor that works...but it's not practical
pics would be great too..of your center consle
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F-body accesories.
The reason you have hood clearance issues is because the engine is sitting so high up in order to clear the steering box.
I bet that truck has horrible vibrations at higher speed considering what the drive-line angle must be.
Side job or not, I hope you got a hell of a deal.
The reason you have hood clearance issues is because the engine is sitting so high up in order to clear the steering box.
I bet that truck has horrible vibrations at higher speed considering what the drive-line angle must be.
Side job or not, I hope you got a hell of a deal.
I agree...that thing has to sit crazy high in there. Thats why you lost clearance for the hood. And yes the driveline vibrations will be crazy bad too. But hey...if you got a good deal on it...thats cool. You can make it all work with time.
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It's not straight on, but here's one that is kinda close
http://currentperformance.com/Samples/BlackX.html
http://currentperformance.com/Samples/BlackX.html
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well, idk..something different has to be done because i realize now that in your guys pics..the engine sits lower in the engine bay...is there any way to convert from f-body to corvette access.? if so what would it require...or did someone with fbody acces. do the conversion but did something different to clear the steering box?
Your best bet is to switch to corvette brackets/accessories and use the LS2 water pump. This would also allow you to drop the motor a bit. This pulls everything back towards the engine and moves the alternator to the top drivers side.
You can notch the frame on the passenger side to obtain clearance for the A/C compressor.
You may have to also either modify an oil pan or notch and brace the front crossmember for oil pan clearance.
A couple of guys have done this swap with truck accessories successfully, but the vette accessories provide the greatest amount of clearance.
Then you need to work on the exhaust......
A rack and pinion steering setup is now available for the 2WD trucks. This may provide you with another option.
You can notch the frame on the passenger side to obtain clearance for the A/C compressor.
You may have to also either modify an oil pan or notch and brace the front crossmember for oil pan clearance.
A couple of guys have done this swap with truck accessories successfully, but the vette accessories provide the greatest amount of clearance.
Then you need to work on the exhaust......
A rack and pinion steering setup is now available for the 2WD trucks. This may provide you with another option.
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Originally Posted by blackls1s10
whats the diff between the rack and pinion steering and what factory has? and why ls2 water pump...would that allow me to run intake to pass. side and still use the same belt?
The LS2 / LS7 water pump has a flat faced pulley instead of the dome shaped pulley that the LS1 / LS6 has. Which means the LS2 is at least 1" shorter than the LS1 pump.
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Originally Posted by s10-den
SO-GT,how many miles you got on that now(conversion)hows the temp doing?gas mileage?
Conversion was finished about 3 months ago. There is roughly 2500 miles on the conversion. I DD the truck to my highschool which is about 4-5 miles away and work which is about 1/2 mile away so I don't put aton of miles on it.
Since the odometer is broke, it is kinda hard to determine gas mileage. I'd say around 18 MPG in the city and probably mid-high 20's on the highway. (Truck is an auto). When the V6 was in the truck it had the stock 20 gallon gas tank. Now it only has a 12 gallon fuel cell. The gas gauge goes down about the same rate it used to so obviously gas mileage is alot better. Especially on the highway.
So far temp is doing great. Hottest weather it has been in is only about 80 degrees though. But from seeing it so far it should do fine it hot weather because in 80 degree weather it will sit there and idle all day without going over the 1/4 mark on the temp gauge. When it starts to really warm up here in a few months I'll test it with AC on and see how it does. Since I live in AZ, letting it idle in the summer with AC on should test how well it really cools.
Incase you were wondering....It has a 180 thermostat, using the stock 4.3 aluminum radiator, and flex-a-lite 210 fans with the fan speeds lowered. Cowl hood probably helps abit as well.
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Just lowered the temp the fans kick on so it would run alittle cooler. I still haven't seen it use high speed on the fans yet, all it has ever used is low speed so far. That is why I think it will do fine in hot weather. Well, as for the front end thing. When we dropped the LS1 in I figured it was gonna lower the front abit, but it actually sat higher than it did with the V6....go figure! lol
The front feels basically the same as it used to, possibly abit lighter, definately not heavier.
Thanks for the compliments
The front feels basically the same as it used to, possibly abit lighter, definately not heavier.
Thanks for the compliments