returnless rails
#1
returnless rails
Im putting an Ls1/T56 in a '52 chevy truck. Anyways, my engine has a returnless fuel rail setup, and my pump is a sump/pump kit from tanks inc.
I did a little searching and most people say to swap to return style, but I'd rather keep the single line and this is when it becomes unclear.
Street and performance sells a vette fuel filter that is for single line systems and I guess has a return built in the filter...can I use this with my aftermarket pump to run my single line fuel rails? I'd assume the answer to be yes but I'd like to check with those who know.
Thanks
I did a little searching and most people say to swap to return style, but I'd rather keep the single line and this is when it becomes unclear.
Street and performance sells a vette fuel filter that is for single line systems and I guess has a return built in the filter...can I use this with my aftermarket pump to run my single line fuel rails? I'd assume the answer to be yes but I'd like to check with those who know.
Thanks
#2
You can use the vet filter you can pick it up from any parts store cheaper than s&p sells it for. But there has to be a plumbed return from the filter to the tank. It is a single line from the filter up to your fuel rails then.
#6
Originally Posted by cajundragger
Im putting an Ls1/T56 in a '52 chevy truck. Anyways, my engine has a returnless fuel rail setup, and my pump is a sump/pump kit from tanks inc.
I did a little searching and most people say to swap to return style, but I'd rather keep the single line and this is when it becomes unclear.
Street and performance sells a vette fuel filter that is for single line systems and I guess has a return built in the filter...can I use this with my aftermarket pump to run my single line fuel rails? I'd assume the answer to be yes but I'd like to check with those who know.
Thanks
I did a little searching and most people say to swap to return style, but I'd rather keep the single line and this is when it becomes unclear.
Street and performance sells a vette fuel filter that is for single line systems and I guess has a return built in the filter...can I use this with my aftermarket pump to run my single line fuel rails? I'd assume the answer to be yes but I'd like to check with those who know.
Thanks
like he just said, you can get the filter/regulator from any almost autoparts store. just ask for one for a newer corvette.
one line is fuel into the filter.. one line goes up to the engine.. and the other one is a return line back to the tank.
for the connectors, goto your local autoparts store and they'll have them on the shelf.. they are a standard connector.
take them to your local hydraulic shop, and they can make pretty lines... or you can go the OEM look route and push them into stock style nylon fueline.
theres more info if you search under my name.. but heres a couple threads ive replied in on the subject:
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...ight=fuel+line
#7
There are a bunch of pictures and discussion in the stickys at the top of the page including part numbers for the filter and several different options for plumbing it. I used a Tanks, inc set up with a single line rail too. It works great. there is some info in my build log at the link in my sig. good luck
Pat
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#8
the vette filter has a regulator built into it? The fbody's use a T-block before the filter and have the regulator in the tank... so the vette filter would cut down on cost if it has a regulator built in...
#10
Please see my swap (link in signature) - I used the same combo in my truck, I am using the same fuel system on a '68 Chevy P/U.
Page 10 or 11 of the swap has pics of the fuel system and part numbers, and I am using the Tanks,Inc setup also.
If you have an LS1 98-02, your setup should look like this from the tank:
You will need special adapters to adapt your fuel lines ot the Vette filter/FPR. There is a link to several options in the post I'm talking about on page 10.
Page 10 or 11 of the swap has pics of the fuel system and part numbers, and I am using the Tanks,Inc setup also.
If you have an LS1 98-02, your setup should look like this from the tank:
Code:
pump supply line---\ VETTE FILTER/FPR --------------------->Fuel Rail pump return line---/
Last edited by shifty`; 05-08-2007 at 10:40 AM.
#11
PS - Just FYI Keisler Automotive will rebuilt your tranny so it uses that panel on the top that's ~4-5" in front of where your shifter is now.
If you using Buckets, it might not matter, but ... if I were you, I'd save that piece of floor and drop the $500-600 they charge to move the shifter forward. (I plan to do this once I can drive the truck to them up in TN).
If you using Buckets, it might not matter, but ... if I were you, I'd save that piece of floor and drop the $500-600 they charge to move the shifter forward. (I plan to do this once I can drive the truck to them up in TN).
#12
How important is it to place the Vette filter/regulator reasonably close to the motor? Some claim there's a bit of a pressure loss if it's too far away. Also, my logic suggests it should be close too.
Andy1
Andy1
#14
FYI.. the Vette filter / regualator part number for AC Delco is "GF822", you can cross reference it to other manufactors.. usually around $50 or less at discounted street or internet prices.
#15
Originally Posted by Andy1
How important is it to place the Vette filter/regulator reasonably close to the motor? Some claim there's a bit of a pressure loss if it's too far away. Also, my logic suggests it should be close too.
I call BS on the pressure loss claim.
#16
Originally Posted by Andy1
How important is it to place the Vette filter/regulator reasonably close to the motor? Some claim there's a bit of a pressure loss if it's too far away. Also, my logic suggests it should be close too.
Andy1
Andy1
they mounted it in the back on the vette.
and its in the gas tank in the fbody....
lol, because its atmosphere referenced and not manifold ref... it doesnt really matter.. you would have to be flowing a much larger volume before theres even a measurable pressure drop over the distance.
its a closed hydraulic system, so the pressure is almost constant on anything connected between the pump and regulator.
#18
Originally Posted by shifty`
PS - Just FYI Keisler Automotive will rebuilt your tranny so it uses that panel on the top that's ~4-5" in front of where your shifter is now.
If you using Buckets, it might not matter, but ... if I were you, I'd save that piece of floor and drop the $500-600 they charge to move the shifter forward. (I plan to do this once I can drive the truck to them up in TN).
If you using Buckets, it might not matter, but ... if I were you, I'd save that piece of floor and drop the $500-600 they charge to move the shifter forward. (I plan to do this once I can drive the truck to them up in TN).
And thanks guys for the info. We are a NAPA direct shop so I will hit them up and see what they have.
#19
also, just because a number of yall are looking in here, is there a difference between a vette and SSR T56 besides the vettes is mounted in the rear? My trans is from an SSR and my engine had a manual stock so Im trying to figure out if anything will be off because of gear ratio difference in the tranny.
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