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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 07:02 PM
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Dopey because their opinions differ from yours. Which proves my point perfectly. Popular and right aren't the same...

So, uh, what about those engines with cylinders removed/added that can't survive? Or did you intentionally not bring that up again?
Old Nov 13, 2007 | 08:29 PM
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We need more pics of this beast.
I didn't see any glue on the intake, maybe this guy made a mold and cast one out on his hobby bench.
This guy deserves some credit for his work.
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Anyone remember the Caddy 4.1L? The displacement on demand feature they used to have? LOL.
It wasn't the 4.1 it was the 6.0(362ci) 8-6-4
The 4.1 had enough problems. Along with the 4.5 and 4.9 later engines.
Pure junk
Old Nov 13, 2007 | 08:30 PM
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Nope, I was right. I haven't seen one example yet of any sucessful production engine that has been considered high quality yet...

Some one off stuff that never made it big was all I saw so far. Pretty pathetic if you ask me...
Old Nov 13, 2007 | 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Gen3Benz
It wasn't the 4.1 it was the 6.0(362ci) 8-6-4
The 4.1 had enough problems. Along with the 4.5 and 4.9 later engines.
Pure junk
They tried it once years ago, before the 6L. I believe it was on the 4.1L or something even before that...

Pure junk was all that came out of GM from 77-87, with the GN being almost the only bright spot..
Old Nov 13, 2007 | 08:42 PM
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qspres, what do you consider a "high quality" motor? and what can you back up the GN statement with?
Old Nov 13, 2007 | 08:43 PM
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He's just spewing bullshit now. I think it's time to ignore him like he ignores the facts that I brought up.
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QSPres do you feel better about your self now? You have a vast knowledge apperantly to share yet you just bitch and moan on here. And hate on everything, the guy did somthing different, cool to see and it works.

I wouldnt do it, but glad to see there is people out there trying things and making them work..
Old Nov 13, 2007 | 08:55 PM
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the sooner we learn stop feeding the troll the better. Where did this guy come from anyway?
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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 03:42 AM
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Originally Posted by QSPres
They tried it once years ago, before the 6L. I believe it was on the 4.1L or something even before that...

Pure junk was all that came out of GM from 77-87, with the GN being almost the only bright spot..
Clearly, the '84-'88 Fiero was junk, too, right? Rolling bonfire! That came outta GM too. And no, Lotus didn't design the suspension, that was speculation and rumor. The suspension was GM-designed too. Bump-steer was eliminated in '88, and the '89 prototype was gearing up to be one of GM's best accomplishments before it embarrassed the (then) prototype ZR-1 around the track with two less cylinders and about 50 less horsepower. Nevermind the fact that the chassis only weighed 600 pounds, yet was one of the stiffest of the mid-engine vehicles of that decade, besting even Ferrari's 308GTB and 328GTS.

But - that's neither here nor there. That is one seriously nice V12 LS1. I wouldn't mind hearing the exhaust note.
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QS Pres. What makes you think you are fit to run your mouth like this? Unless you are an engineer, which I you are not...because coming from someone who is in the process of getting their degree to be an automotive engineer.....no engineer talks like that.

You seem to be spewing crap from everywhere. 1/4 of the 6 and 4 cylinder American designed motors are just v8's with cylinders hacked off.....I know this for a fact, my professor designed some of them =]

So....that's your cue to shut it.
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Originally Posted by Ravant
Clearly, the '84-'88 Fiero was junk, too, right? Rolling bonfire! That came outta GM too. And no, Lotus didn't design the suspension, that was speculation and rumor. The suspension was GM-designed too. Bump-steer was eliminated in '88, and the '89 prototype was gearing up to be one of GM's best accomplishments before it embarrassed the (then) prototype ZR-1 around the track with two less cylinders and about 50 less horsepower. Nevermind the fact that the chassis only weighed 600 pounds, yet was one of the stiffest of the mid-engine vehicles of that decade, besting even Ferrari's 308GTB and 328GTS.

But - that's neither here nor there. That is one seriously nice V12 LS1. I wouldn't mind hearing the exhaust note.
You just made me remember, I want a Fiero.
Old Nov 14, 2007 | 05:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Schitzo
the sooner we learn stop feeding the troll the better. Where did this guy come from anyway?
Apparently he's an expert in engine design and manufacture.
Old Nov 14, 2007 | 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by blueeyeddevil141
Unless you are an engineer, which I you are not...because coming from someone who is in the process of getting their degree to be an automotive engineer.....no engineer talks like that.


LOL. Just use that on your resume and you're assured a job at GM or Ford.... Simply brilliant deductive powers! LOL
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Originally Posted by blueeyeddevil141
You just made me remember, I want a Fiero.


And I need not say anymore about your sense of style or taste...........
Old Nov 14, 2007 | 06:21 AM
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That is definatley en engineering marvel. I agree I wouldn't waste my time or money on it, but then again I don't have the know how to do it. Makes me wish I'd gone to SEMA. I just help turn some wrenches on a 620HP (flywheel), pump gas, turbo LS1 fiero, thing was awesome and has been surprisingly durable. I'll see if I can dig up the pics I have of it.

Also QS, get whatever crawled up your rear out. While I don't share your opinion I can appreciate it but enough with the juvenile, meaningless, negative comments. If you don't like late model GM stuff because it is all crap then go hang out on www.ihategmcarscausetheyareallcrap.com , not on a GM tech board.
Old Nov 14, 2007 | 06:32 AM
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ive seen these before. like 3 years ago my friends gm parts ware house has had these heads on the shelf. he useually buys scrap from gm but everyonce in a while gets good parts.
Old Nov 14, 2007 | 06:42 AM
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This is really a great achievement, I wish I had the time and money to build something unique like this gentleman did. And QSPres
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Here's how the conversation went down when GM approached Lotus to design the Plastic Fantastic suspension for them.....


GM: Hey, we know you build $80,000 (at the time) supercars, but we want you to design a suspension for our $12,000 car.

Lotus: .....................

GM: Are you still there?

Lotus: Umm, yeah.... Hold on a moment and let us connect you to our intern department.


I guess GM guys shouldn't feel bad, I believe Subaru had Lotus attempt the same thing. It was **** too..........



The same brilliant minds that made the deal with Opal recrently where no matter how bad the company was doing, at any time the owners of Opal wanted, they could force GM to buy their company for a predetermined amount of money and GM would HAVE to buy it....


Enough said?
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Wow Pres I see how you get your post count up. Go into a thread and be a total dick and add one line insults over and over and over. What a waterhead!
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My post count is "up"? Its minescule compared to some of these clowns...


When I start lying, then have a problem with what I type. Sometimes the truth isn't popular, but it's still the truth...



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