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11-14-2007, 08:20 AM
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11-14-2007, 08:26 AM
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And I'm sure you're some type of expert with the history of General Motors and all. It's hilarious how you go claiming it's "truth" after you make up rediculous dialogue between two companies. Your word means just as much as my 3 yr old niece's concept of life. I hate to say it, but the "truth" is that nobody cares what you have to say, buddy. Get outta here.
11-14-2007, 08:41 AM
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If you didn't care, you wouldn't post.
Nice try, but its juvenile....
Everything that I have said has been accurate. If you don't think that "conversation" I typed wasn't really, really close to what happened when GM DID say that to Lotus, you're either too young to know how the world works, or just simply nieve.....
Nice try, but its juvenile....
Everything that I have said has been accurate. If you don't think that "conversation" I typed wasn't really, really close to what happened when GM DID say that to Lotus, you're either too young to know how the world works, or just simply nieve.....
11-14-2007, 08:44 AM
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All you have to do is run your current engine without oil for a few minutes to get familiar with the sound of an engine eating itself up....
If you want to hear how an unbalanced, non-engineered motor sounds, then I suggest you get on down to SEMA and see if you can even get the owner to start that thing.
So far, none of these so called "defenders of the product" even knows if it runs or not. Not one of them has even heard it. THINK ABOUT THAT......
11-14-2007, 09:39 AM
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All you have to do is run your current engine without oil for a few minutes to get familiar with the sound of an engine eating itself up....
If you want to hear how an unbalanced, non-engineered motor sounds, then I suggest you get on down to SEMA and see if you can even get the owner to start that thing.
If you want to hear how an unbalanced, non-engineered motor sounds, then I suggest you get on down to SEMA and see if you can even get the owner to start that thing.
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11-14-2007, 09:48 AM
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QS, i'm still waiting...give me one valid reason why you think what you say is truth...I gave you a few valid reasons to disprove you...and I know you can't argue them.
11-14-2007, 10:02 AM
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No give me a reason why everyone here should believe your unproven facts against mine, after speaking to a man who had part in designing some of these "horrible motors that sucked" yet...are still commonly seen....
11-14-2007, 10:33 AM
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WHY IS EVERYONE ARGUING WITH HIM???? Like someone else said...stop feeding him. I wanna learn more about this motor...dont know about the rest of you. I dont understand why someone that enjoys this sport, and obviously likes LS1s, would be acting like that, but alittle bit of tact goes a long way in life.
Even if it isnt the most reliable thing in the world, its still f'in cool!
Blocks put together seems like the hardest part. Intake can be glued and shaped. Heads...as long as you drilled and tapped the coolant passages and linked them, couldnt you just lop off the last clyinder worth of head? Everything else seems not too outrageous. Except for figuring out how to build the crank/cam...thats beyond me.
Someone should have told this guy to post on LS1tech with pics and vids and explainations!!! Figues it went unnoticed at SEMA. Wasnt all blinged out with 3 turbos and red flags saying "Look what I bought!"
J.
Even if it isnt the most reliable thing in the world, its still f'in cool!
Blocks put together seems like the hardest part. Intake can be glued and shaped. Heads...as long as you drilled and tapped the coolant passages and linked them, couldnt you just lop off the last clyinder worth of head? Everything else seems not too outrageous. Except for figuring out how to build the crank/cam...thats beyond me.
Someone should have told this guy to post on LS1tech with pics and vids and explainations!!! Figues it went unnoticed at SEMA. Wasnt all blinged out with 3 turbos and red flags saying "Look what I bought!"
J.
11-14-2007, 11:19 AM
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Why would he post when the motor is no good? There's a reason why it was sitting in a corner without any fan fare.
80% of what shows up at SEMA from "little guys" never makes it to market. 40% of what the big guys bring either never gets seen, or doesn't do what they say it will...
These children just don't have any of those life experiences.... Yet.
80% of what shows up at SEMA from "little guys" never makes it to market. 40% of what the big guys bring either never gets seen, or doesn't do what they say it will...
These children just don't have any of those life experiences.... Yet.
11-14-2007, 11:26 AM
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No one is saying this is a new engineering feat, we are simply saying it's awesome, and seems interesting. While you with your obvious vast knowledge in engineering (yes...sarcasm) are trying to say it sucks basically.
11-14-2007, 01:11 PM
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QSPres you could have googled it youself, but you must need to be proven a dipshit:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Falconer+V12
Airplane racing and marine racing.
And if it was such a piece of ****, why did GM hire Ryan Falconer to build one of his V12 motors for Conan?
http://www.vettextc.net/NCM/Conan-V12.jpg
http://www.trombinoscar.com/c4/ct900402.jpg
That car was in the Corvette museum for a couple years. In case you didn't know, they don't let self destructing turds in the museum.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Falconer+V12
Airplane racing and marine racing.
And if it was such a piece of ****, why did GM hire Ryan Falconer to build one of his V12 motors for Conan?
http://www.vettextc.net/NCM/Conan-V12.jpg
http://www.trombinoscar.com/c4/ct900402.jpg
That car was in the Corvette museum for a couple years. In case you didn't know, they don't let self destructing turds in the museum.
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11-14-2007, 01:24 PM
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LOL. You wanted me to waste my time on that?
Really, then why did they let that turd in? That's what every Corvette up untill recently was...
If you want us all to be impressed, perhaps you should have said Toyota or Hyundai hired him as an engineer....
Really, then why did they let that turd in? That's what every Corvette up untill recently was...
If you want us all to be impressed, perhaps you should have said Toyota or Hyundai hired him as an engineer....
11-14-2007, 01:28 PM
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And just so none of you who don't want to waste your time with this BS artist and his postings, this Flaconmer guy has his blocks MADE as V12's.....
They aren't two 400's welded together. While the PROTOTYPE might have been, there's a very, very good reason why they don't do that anymore...
Some one please e-mail Flakener and ask him how many revisions the block, crank, oiling system, and coolant systems have gone through since the original POS...
So far, none of these so called "defenders of the product" even knows if it runs or not. Not one of them has even heard it. THINK ABOUT THAT......
Truer words haven't been seen on this post yet..
They aren't two 400's welded together. While the PROTOTYPE might have been, there's a very, very good reason why they don't do that anymore...
Some one please e-mail Flakener and ask him how many revisions the block, crank, oiling system, and coolant systems have gone through since the original POS...
So far, none of these so called "defenders of the product" even knows if it runs or not. Not one of them has even heard it. THINK ABOUT THAT......
Truer words haven't been seen on this post yet..
11-14-2007, 01:28 PM
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Now you trully are not even making sense.
Did you read the multiple threads on that google search praising the durability and power and winning ability of these motors??
If you are not impressed with what resides in the Corvette Museum you are truly hopeless.
Did you read the multiple threads on that google search praising the durability and power and winning ability of these motors??
If you are not impressed with what resides in the Corvette Museum you are truly hopeless.
11-14-2007, 01:31 PM
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Falconer didn't manufacture his own blocks and heads for some time after doing the SBC based V12. His company had to make money by, uh, winning races to build the equity to manufacture their own engine.
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