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Old Jul 20, 2010 | 01:55 PM
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I was curious if people were running flywheels or flexplates with their setups?

We had an Fbody flywheel so we used that! I'm guessing it will help to keep the boat accellerating out of the hole when pulling a heavy skiier/wakeboarder with all the weight/stored energy from the stock steel flywheel.

I have a heat exchanger already for the transmission and engine oil cooler. Wondering if I should run a second cooler for the engine coolant as I plan to go with a closed system.

Will post more pics tomorrow. We modified the engine mount adapters to move the boat mounts further forward.
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Old Jul 21, 2010 | 06:51 AM
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I love it man, more vids of it running.......please!

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Soon!

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BAD ***!! Glad to see its all running well, now stick some turbo's on that sucker.

BTW had fun talking to you on Power Tour. (silver T/A)
Hey bud! Thanks! I would love nothing more than to put a set of twins on this biotch
It was great talking to you and your wife on powertour. Hope y'all had a safe trip home.
PM me that website address you told me about. I looked but could not find it.
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Old Jul 21, 2010 | 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by gnx7
I was curious if people were running flywheels or flexplates with their setups?

We had an Fbody flywheel so we used that! I'm guessing it will help to keep the boat accellerating out of the hole when pulling a heavy skiier/wakeboarder with all the weight/stored energy from the stock steel flywheel.

I have a heat exchanger already for the transmission and engine oil cooler. Wondering if I should run a second cooler for the engine coolant as I plan to go with a closed system.

Will post more pics tomorrow. We modified the engine mount adapters to move the boat mounts further forward.
I would go with a flexplate. A flywheel will actually make the engine less responsive and slower to accelerate. Mine revs SO quick with just a flexplate. You're not shifting gears on the water so you don't need the extra mass imo.
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Old Jul 21, 2010 | 07:58 AM
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I'm running a flexplate also.
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Old Jul 21, 2010 | 04:45 PM
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Water jacketed aluminum lowers/risers, marine style starter, marine style alternator ordered today.

I purchased another set of lowers/risers to get a better deal. I have no use for them. PM me if interested in them and more details. They are designed for LS style engines and are a bolt on affair. I hope to get them by Monday at the latest.
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Old Jul 28, 2010 | 04:21 PM
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They arrived yesterday. I actually sprayed water in them to see the path it would take. There was also a bit of sand casting left in them from the foundry. I have a 2nd set as mentioned for someone else taking on a project like this.


These can be run on either side as shown by the ports drilled/tapped on top of the lower manifolds.




Here are the risers!



In the risers you can see a water jacket exit on the bottom side....

Here is another one on the top where the bulk of the water exits from the entry port located at the front of the riser. It has the main opening and also one on either side of it that flows water as well.

What it looks like combined.

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Old Jul 29, 2010 | 05:52 AM
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Those look pretty good man. I would love to see them bolted up to the engine to see how far away they are from the valve covers/coils. That is the primary reason I didn't use those manifolds on my jet. Those might be the hot ticket for a sterndrive setup though.
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Old Aug 3, 2010 | 01:28 PM
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Now that I've got one boat swapped to an LS...it's for sale so I can do it to my new boat! I've now got a 21' Liberator tunnel hull cat style jet boat with a BBC that's just begging for an LS1. So...if anyone wants one of these already swapped, shoot me a PM or see the ad in the Texas classifieds section.

And GNX, sent you a PM about your manifolds.
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Old Nov 19, 2010 | 07:15 PM
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you ever get the tune squared away on this? any GPS numbers?
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Old Nov 20, 2010 | 03:01 AM
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**** yea. I seen 72 on gps. Runnin hard runnin strong in da great white nort.
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Old Nov 20, 2010 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Compressor Surge
**** yea. I seen 72 on gps. Runnin hard runnin strong in da great white nort.
great number! i watched this all on performance boats, now i am coming over to the darkside.
couple questions.
are you running saddle tanks? i am trying to figure out how to do a return line
where did you end up mounting the computer and electronics to keep it dry?
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Old Nov 22, 2010 | 07:56 PM
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great number! i watched this all on performance boats, now i am coming over to the darkside.
couple questions.
are you running saddle tanks? i am trying to figure out how to do a return line
where did you end up mounting the computer and electronics to keep it dry?
Thanks dude. No im not running saddle tanks...got one up in the bow. Ran the return to the fuel filler neck. I struggled with the best way to do that for a bit too.
The ecm and fuel pump are mounted on the side panel of the engine compartment behind the seat. No real worry about keeping them dry. The ecm is a sealed unit that is typically mounted under the hood anyway, and the fuel pump is often submerged in the fuel tank.
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Old Nov 22, 2010 | 08:50 PM
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I have saddle tanks and have been thinking on this also. I think I'm going to weld a -12 fitting to the rear lower area of each tank, run a line from one ank to the other with a T in the middle for the return. If I don't do this I'll run 2 pumps 1 from each tank, 2 FPR's, a return to each tank, and a one way valve before both fuel rails and a crossover line between the rails. This way if a pump fails it should pressurize both rails before shutting the furthest valve allowing the engine to still run. Overkill, maybe but theres nothing like having a back up Plus this way I don't have to mess with the tanks.
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Old Dec 13, 2010 | 02:08 AM
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So i have a question for you guys here.. ( im on PB forum too same name)
Is a front drive LS the same block design as a Rear drive LS engines bell housing the Same ?
I been seeing some good deals on LS4's outa impallas and grand prixs..

I have a 72 Avenger same kinda boat as Compressor Surge..
and looking to swap to an LS before next boat season..

Not sure weather im keeping the FI, or gonna carb it yet.
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Old Dec 14, 2010 | 03:55 AM
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[QUOTE=Chris1530;14230421]So i have a question for you guys here.. ( im on PB forum too same name)
Is a front drive LS the same block design as a Rear drive LS engines bell housing the Same ?
I been seeing some good deals on LS4's outa impallas and grand prixs../QUOTE]

Yep, they all are the same. As far as bellhousing is concerned.
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Old Dec 14, 2010 | 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Lucky#13
Originally Posted by Chris1530
So i have a question for you guys here.. ( im on PB forum too same name)
Is a front drive LS the same block design as a Rear drive LS engines bell housing the Same ?
I been seeing some good deals on LS4's outa impallas and grand prixs..
Yep, they all are the same. As far as bellhousing is concerned.
No, they are not. The LS4 uses the FWD bolt pattern, which is completely different from the RWD pattern used on other GM products.

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Old Dec 14, 2010 | 09:35 AM
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So theoretically it would work you'd just have to make a new rear mount?
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Old Dec 14, 2010 | 04:48 PM
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i think ill just a rear drive 5.3 or 6.0 LS

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Old Dec 14, 2010 | 06:37 PM
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That'd be my recommendation.
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Old Feb 28, 2011 | 12:43 PM
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Heya Mr. Compressor Surge,
I was wondering if you could give me an idea as to the basics of what you deleted, and what you left in your harness ?.
thanks

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