High Rise Spoiler for Convertible Trans-Ams... Who is ready to buy?
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High Rise Spoiler for Convertible Trans-Ams... Who is ready to buy?
Based off the success of another enthusiast from a different forum, 2KBirdman, we're building a Trans Am High Rise Spoiler for a Convertible for a customer of ours.
We may make a few revisions (carry an inside line of the spoiler all the way to the side pieces instead of "blurring" them out) but for the most part it will look like this (AGAIN, this is the work of 2KBirdman, pics just used for reference and admiration)...
Best I can tell Birdman spent around $1000 just in body work. I believe it as you have to reform the entire trunk.
IF there is enough interest (we're talking 10 people ready to pay in advance, after they see the plug but before production starts, a discounted price) we'll mold it and make it.
This is just a feeler thread as there's really no way of knowing what something like this will cost. Can we make it one piece and still pull it out of a mold? Will it have to be two piece? If so will it still work and look right? Etc...
We're doing this either way for our customer but before we ship off was seeing if there was any interest in making a mold.
My best GUESS on price $1000-$1200. You have to understand it's a trunk (so complicated top and bottom mold) AND a Trans Am high rise spoiler (complicated top and bottom mold with lots of hard contours to get a mold to release off of) and on top of that we're trying to have one piece that does it all lol.
SO, is there even TEN convertible guys who WANT this part to exist let alone TEN who are willing to spend that on it?
Let me know...
We may make a few revisions (carry an inside line of the spoiler all the way to the side pieces instead of "blurring" them out) but for the most part it will look like this (AGAIN, this is the work of 2KBirdman, pics just used for reference and admiration)...
Best I can tell Birdman spent around $1000 just in body work. I believe it as you have to reform the entire trunk.
IF there is enough interest (we're talking 10 people ready to pay in advance, after they see the plug but before production starts, a discounted price) we'll mold it and make it.
This is just a feeler thread as there's really no way of knowing what something like this will cost. Can we make it one piece and still pull it out of a mold? Will it have to be two piece? If so will it still work and look right? Etc...
We're doing this either way for our customer but before we ship off was seeing if there was any interest in making a mold.
My best GUESS on price $1000-$1200. You have to understand it's a trunk (so complicated top and bottom mold) AND a Trans Am high rise spoiler (complicated top and bottom mold with lots of hard contours to get a mold to release off of) and on top of that we're trying to have one piece that does it all lol.
SO, is there even TEN convertible guys who WANT this part to exist let alone TEN who are willing to spend that on it?
Let me know...
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Well, I agree this is one of the better looking attempts at doing this that I've seen, maybe the best. However, I do agree that if the inside line of the uplift portion was kept "crisper" (not "blurred") right up to ~1/4" of where the deck lid meets the fender "winglet", it would be about perfect.
That said, its unfortunate that its taken 13 years after these cars ceased production for something like this to become available. Had any one of the various aftermarket hood companies been producing this since about a year after the first 'verts hit the market, I would've snatched one up for sure when I purchased my car or shortly afterwards when the "excitement factor" was still peaking. Because had that happened, whoever produced such a product certainly would've taken better advantage of the economies of scale and been able to produce it much more economically. I'm not being critical of 6LITEREATER, I'm just stating what I think is pretty obvious: Its going to be much harder to rally 10 people to put money down on something like this in 2015 than it would've been in 1995.
You don't mention what % of the ~$1000-1200 cost you are asking to have put down. You'd get quite a few more folks putting down a $100-$150 "deposit" than paying in full up front.
That said, its unfortunate that its taken 13 years after these cars ceased production for something like this to become available. Had any one of the various aftermarket hood companies been producing this since about a year after the first 'verts hit the market, I would've snatched one up for sure when I purchased my car or shortly afterwards when the "excitement factor" was still peaking. Because had that happened, whoever produced such a product certainly would've taken better advantage of the economies of scale and been able to produce it much more economically. I'm not being critical of 6LITEREATER, I'm just stating what I think is pretty obvious: Its going to be much harder to rally 10 people to put money down on something like this in 2015 than it would've been in 1995.
You don't mention what % of the ~$1000-1200 cost you are asking to have put down. You'd get quite a few more folks putting down a $100-$150 "deposit" than paying in full up front.
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Well, I agree this is one of the better looking attempts at doing this that I've seen, maybe the best. However, I do agree that if the inside line of the uplift portion was kept "crisper" (not "blurred") right up to ~1/4" of where the deck lid meets the fender "winglet", it would be about perfect.
That said, its unfortunate that its taken 13 years after these cars ceased production for something like this to become available. Had any one of the various aftermarket hood companies been producing this since about a year after the first 'verts hit the market, I would've snatched one up for sure when I purchased my car or shortly afterwards when the "excitement factor" was still peaking. Because had that happened, whoever produced such a product certainly would've taken better advantage of the economies of scale and been able to produce it much more economically. I'm not being critical of 6LITEREATER, I'm just stating what I think is pretty obvious: Its going to be much harder to rally 10 people to put money down on something like this in 2015 than it would've been in 1995.
You don't mention what % of the ~$1000-1200 cost you are asking to have put down. You'd get quite a few more folks putting down a $100-$150 "deposit" than paying in full up front.
That said, its unfortunate that its taken 13 years after these cars ceased production for something like this to become available. Had any one of the various aftermarket hood companies been producing this since about a year after the first 'verts hit the market, I would've snatched one up for sure when I purchased my car or shortly afterwards when the "excitement factor" was still peaking. Because had that happened, whoever produced such a product certainly would've taken better advantage of the economies of scale and been able to produce it much more economically. I'm not being critical of 6LITEREATER, I'm just stating what I think is pretty obvious: Its going to be much harder to rally 10 people to put money down on something like this in 2015 than it would've been in 1995.
You don't mention what % of the ~$1000-1200 cost you are asking to have put down. You'd get quite a few more folks putting down a $100-$150 "deposit" than paying in full up front.
The deposit would be the full amount for the same reason. Not going to invest in a mold that we'd need to sell 30 products at a higher price than the one posted to even break even if there aren't 10 guys ready to pay in full at a discount.
Everything we've looked into we're talking THREE pieces... Trunk. Spoiler. (as they can't be grafted together like that and come out of a mold) AND remake the brake light since we can't find a source. IT won't be cheap but we were looking at this and the Sunoco wide body as us closing the books on this chapter in 6LE. We REALLY want to see them all done but if no one is going to buy them then there's no point lol.
We will be doing the one off for the customer still though.
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Very surprised at the responses in here. I think it looks amazingly well done and is a great idea. If my Vert was a TA, I'd be all in but unfortunately it's a Camaro and my Bird is a T-top.
Sorry to see you leave the 4th gen market 6LiterEater, but I don't blame you one single bit. Time for you to go off and make some real money with the newer stuff!
Sorry to see you leave the 4th gen market 6LiterEater, but I don't blame you one single bit. Time for you to go off and make some real money with the newer stuff!
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So what all is involved with buying it? Are you going to send a new deck lid, or would someone have to send you theirs for you to reshape? Whats the time frame you are looking at for deposit, production, and shipping times?
Very interested because this is something I have wanted since I got the car.
Should call it the /birdbath mod
Edit: can you post some side by side pics of this vs a traditional high rise spoiler? The only thing that looks kind of funky to me from the pics is the slope under the spoiler.
Very interested because this is something I have wanted since I got the car.
Should call it the /birdbath mod
Edit: can you post some side by side pics of this vs a traditional high rise spoiler? The only thing that looks kind of funky to me from the pics is the slope under the spoiler.
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So what all is involved with buying it? Are you going to send a new deck lid, or would someone have to send you theirs for you to reshape? Whats the time frame you are looking at for deposit, production, and shipping times?
Very interested because this is something I have wanted since I got the car.
Should call it the /birdbath mod
Edit: can you post some side by side pics of this vs a traditional high rise spoiler? The only thing that looks kind of funky to me from the pics is the slope under the spoiler.
Very interested because this is something I have wanted since I got the car.
Should call it the /birdbath mod
Edit: can you post some side by side pics of this vs a traditional high rise spoiler? The only thing that looks kind of funky to me from the pics is the slope under the spoiler.
Right now we're still waiting on a piece then McNord's going to get started for the customer and we can post pics. If people like it we'll pop off a mold then get it all going...
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If production is approved
I have wanted a the high-lift TA spoiler on a convertible for years! Please let the forum members know if this goes into production. My car is 15 years old, and could use new paint anyway.
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Zero... ish lol.
It is for an uber patient customer with overlay issues so he is just supplying the parts and McNord is doing the work for no charge.
If people like it we'll mold and offer it for sale and give the customer a free production piece. If not McNord is making sure it is road worthy and will be sent back to the customer.
It is for an uber patient customer with overlay issues so he is just supplying the parts and McNord is doing the work for no charge.
If people like it we'll mold and offer it for sale and give the customer a free production piece. If not McNord is making sure it is road worthy and will be sent back to the customer.