Well....
stock xcept a hurst shifter. I know i know, its not 100% stock, but i just wanted to let everyone know i had a shifter. Everything else is completely stock!

Made a series of Runs...
but the best E.T. was
60ft....2.08
330ft...5.56
1/8et...8.37
1/8mph...88.84
1/4ET....12.73
1/4MPH...111.05

Best MPH was...
60ft.....2.15
330ft....5.63
1/8et....8.46
1/8mph...88.41
1/4et....12.83
1/4mph...113.27
Odly enough, this was my VERY FIRST run in the ZO6. I completely forgot to look at the tach during 2nd gear and banged the rev limiter hard (i can laugh about it now..haha) My shifting was not as precise as the latter runs.

Cars got 1K miles on her, I would like to bring the E.T. down to about 12.35 in good weather with a 2.0 sixty foot. Just need more practice!

 

Congrats!! Aren't these cars fun. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

 

SSBoy

I don't mean to be rude, but I'd be pissed if I spent $50K+ and got a 12.7s ET. I know it's more of a road course car. Still high 12's for that much money is not impressive at all. Bone stock f-bodies have run 12.7's. There's a post going right now where a guy ran 12.43.

Just my 2cents. Don't think I wouldn't trade my Z28 for a Z06 in a second though. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

 

Good deal SS!

Drop that 60ft to a 1.9x and you wil be sub 12.5's all day long.

12.43 for a stock F-bod is pretty damn good??? especially if it was on stock tires. I wil admit I have yet to see a stock f bod cut that good of a time yet (sure an auto with a t/c can do that but it's not stock)a lot of factors come into play driver, weather, traction....

I was never able to cut better than a 13.2 in my 99ss when it was stock. (granted the newer ones are quicker with the revised cam and ls6 intake).

When my FRC was stock I cut a 12.9 the first time out. If I had it all to do all over again I would dump the SS in a heartbeat (and maybe try to pony up the extra $$$ for a z06) and get the vette. Hopefully this post doesn't turn into the standard my $xxx car with $xxx in mods beats your $xxx car.

It's all about what the person wants, there are some situations where I would prefer to have ny old SS over my my FRC (payment time!)

 

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by camaro_ls1:
<strong>SSBoy

I don't mean to be rude, but I'd be pissed if I spent $50K+ and got a 12.7s ET. I know it's more of a road course car. Still high 12's for that much money is not impressive at all. Bone stock f-bodies have run 12.7's. There's a post going right now where a guy ran 12.43. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Apparently you dont understand the concept of driver error? You cant jump all over SSBoy about wasting 50k just becayse he didnt manage a perfect run his FIRST TIME out. The way he drove the car has NOTHING to do with the worth of the car, get a clue. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />

Give him some time to perfect his shifting, and he'll probably bust an 11.9 or better... Then he'll run over to the skidpad and pull a full 1g or greater. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" />

 

a 100% stock, Fbody turning 12.4s? Thats rather hard to believe...12.7s are the fastest times ive seen around...if someone's cutting a 12.4 w/ a 100% stock Fbody, he'd probably cut a 11.5 w/ a ZO6.

Good times for a first time out man! Put some more miles on the car, dont rape her quite yet <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_tounge.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

 

Those times are fine, and there is nothing wrong with the car. It just a matter of seat time... Let me cite my own example. From 12.7 to 11.933...

In just about any conditions a Z06 can run in the lows 12s with no sweat. In my first trip to the track I went a 12.7.

My car was dyno'd with 1100 mile son it at MTI it dyno'd 358 corrected HP. I have made 4 dyno pulls on the car two pulls on two separate occasions. The highest corrected number was 359 and the lowest was 357. So, my car isn't some factory ringer. It makes the same number everyone elses does.

Anyway, here is a logbook of my passes in my car. From the first to the fastest...

Here is a copy of my first post on the car.

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First Pass
I took my '02 Z06 to Houston Raceway Park to put some initial baseline passes last night. I picked it up Saturday, and had put 1100 miles on the car and made the first oil change, so I felt now was the time to go make the first shakedown pass. Due to oil downs and an emergency page from work I was only able to make one pass. But I was impressed.

The Z06 to me did not feel as fast as the clock showed when I picked up my timeslip. I think this is because the power comes on very smoothly and across more of the band than other small block cars I have driven. After just playing around on the street I figured the car to be a 12.90/107-108 ride bone stock, just by the seat of the pants feel.

I had driven a 98 Z28 with 400 miles on it (back in 98) and it went 13.09/107 bone stock. I was impressed then by the way the LS1 revved. The Z06 felt faster, but I wasn't sure how much. I went conservative on the first pass and left at 1100-1200 rpm since I didn't know how the car was going to hook on the stock radials.

I was racing a 2000 6speed TransAm on gas. My car bogged coming out of the hole since I left so easy, and the TransAM totally killed me. He missed third gear, and I was able to make up some ground, and he ended up beating me by about 2 car lengths.

When I picked up my timeslip I was fairly amazed. While it is obvious that there is a lot of room for improvement, as evidenced by some of ya'lls times, I felt alot better about the purchase of the Z after this.

3/OCT/2001

60' ... 2.159
330 ... 5.610
1/8 ... 8.355
MPH ... 90.69
1000 ... 10.716
1/4 ... 12.716
MPH ... 111.41

Just in looking at the 60' times. I feel confident that I can get the car to a 1.8 - 1.9 60' time. Which would indicate to me that the car should go 12.20-12.30 bone stock. I am sure that there is some more time once I get a better feel for the shift points. The car seems to pull all the way to the rev limiter. I found last night playing around on the street that it was real easy to bump into the rev limiter.

All in all though, I am fairly pleased with what I have seen so far.

10-04-2001 09:54 PM

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Here is my second trip to the track about a week later. It was hot outside, but I am also still getting a feel for the car.

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Drag Racing part Deux
I was tempted to drive to SA and watch the Viper vs. Vette show, but instead decided to go to HRP and flog my '02 and do some much needed testing.

I managed to get in 5 passes in 2 hours. The car at this point is bone stock down to the stock paper air filter. I had intended to have a light load of fuel, but instead ended up having a full tank of gas.

My first pass was at around 7pm and the last was at 9:15. Temperatures ranged from 82 down to 78 and the humidity was high +90% (In short, the air sucked). I really was more concerend with working on my 60' times rather than quarter mile times, as I knew the car would probably drop off from the last time I ran it. I also intended to play with shift points, etc... and see what did and didn't work.

My first pass ever in the car a few weeks ago was leaving just off idle and resulted in a 2.15 60' time and a 12.77@111 the air was cooler and the humidity was lower, hence the higher trap speed.

Best pass last night was a 2.041 60' time 12.667@110

Most everyone I talked with complained about the air quality, and how slow their cars were running. I raced a supercharged 93 mustang who beat me by two car lengths. He went an 11.88 @114 and complained because his trap speeds are sometimes as high as 121. I think he was ready to burn his car. He pulled me over and asked what my time was. I think he was mad because our race was so close, and he didn't pull on me on the big end. The he spotted the badges on the side of the car and went "OH, so thats a Z06, not just a regular 'vette" then he didn't feel so bad and put the can of gasoline and the ligher away and went to go get back int he staging lanes. I was playing with shift points on that pass and only went a 12.95 @110. Since he only beat me by 2 car lengths, I can only imagine how he would have felt on the next pass when the car went a 12.667 which would have put me one length in front of him. (I hate seeing mustang owners cry....)

Anyhow, a couple of observations. I am still working on getting a feel for the clutch. Best results so far have been to leave around 2000 rpm, slip the clutch and roll into the throttle. I am easing into the clutch too fast at this point and bogging the car on the leave slightly. I feel if I can control the release better, I can drop the 60' times significantly.

Leaving between 2500 and 3000 on the stock radials tends to lead to too much wheelspin for me.

If you are going to run your car at the drags shut off Active handling completely. I had mine in Performance mode. While doing my burnout the car moved a little sideways and the active handling kicked in ( I guess it thought I was in a slide) and shut down my burnout.

I played with the shift points and this is what I was able to determine.

Hitting the rev limiter at all seems cost about .1 seconds in a pass. So if you hit the limiter at all figure it costs you about this much. If you hit it in both the 1-2 and the 2-3 figure .2

Short shifting the car is quite detrimental to quater mile times. I played with a couple of different shift points and found that it seems to run best if you stretch them out right to the limit, but not past.

Third gear seems to be the killer. The car really seems to pull best in this gear. On one pass I short shifted third gear to fourth at about 5000. The car dropped to 13.33@108. I tried 5500 and the car went a 12.95@110. So, my advice in this department is to watch the tach in 3rd gear. The car seems to hang a bit at the top of 3rd, but hold 3rd as long as you can it is woth some E.T. I went all the way to 6000 on the 3-4 and the car went a 12.667@110.

I ran these passes with minimal cooldown and in bad weather to see how it should fare on the street. It appears to me that currently the only real problem in the car so far is with its drivers inability to 60'. So, I think I am going to borrow at set of 16" E.T. Streets for the next go around and see what the car can do if traction is not an issue.

10-22-2001 07:38 PM

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Here is my third trip to the track with the car. It ook around 10 passes at the strip to get the lanches figured out.

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12.350 @ 114 - Bone stock
I went out to HRP Friday night and made 4 passes on the car. As per the advice of Ranger and some of the other folks I dropped the air pressure in the rears to 22.

My first pass was right off the street with no cooldown. 2.20 60' with a 12.88@111

I used the heater to bring down the motor temp (it goes right down to 190).

Next pass I brought the revs up more, and worked on slipping the clutch a little more. 1.97 60' 12.41 @ 112

Next pass I cooled the car again to 190 went up to around 2800-3000 and bogged it slightly coming out off the hole ( still working on the release) the car went a 1.92 60' 12.35 @ 114

Last pass I blew the release and ended up with a 12.88 @ 111

I was impressed however that there is 3-4 mph on the big end depending on the launch. I am interested to see how a lower 60' time helps the cars mph.

Anyhow, thanks to Ranger and everyone else who is posting hints here. My quest is to get it into the 11s with no mods. I may try it first on some drag radials, just to see if it can be done, and then work on doing it on the stock radials.

Anyhow, take care.

11-19-2001 06:09 PM

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Next I mounted up a set of ET Streets and took the car to the track in this case, the car finally went into the 11s. Using the ET streets helped me in learning what the cars limits were, and actually helped me do a LOT better on the radials.

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11.960 @ 113.52 Bone Stock
Well, I went to HRP this evening on my new ET Streets. I made about 8 passes. There was about 6" of rain yesterday, so the track had been prepped right before rans began. I left at about 3500 and bogged the car and went a 12.22. I went to 4000 and the car bogged and went a 12.10. I was hot-lapping the car and my temps were in the 205 range. I continued to increase the launch rpms until I launched at 5200 rpm and came away with a 1.75 60' 11.96@113.52 I was warned by tech that one more 11 sec pass and I would be kicked out. I cooled the car to 190 degrees and went to launch the car at 5500 rpm. It resulted in a 1.69 60' time. But, I hit the rev limiter and blew the run. I came away with a 1.697 60' 11.98@112.54. Had I not blown the shifts I feel confident it would have been an 11.91 pass.

And as the title says, the car is bone stock no mods, no filter, no nothing. Just tires...

I will have a scan of the timeslips ready in the next day or so, and I will post them also.

12-15-2001 03:21 AM

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Next I decided to go out an work on the radials again. As you can see the ET Streets helped my skills on the stock radials.

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12.181@112.21 on Radials
Well, I had a chance to go out to HRP Sunday for some "instant green" racing.

My car was on Empty, so I debated on whether to go run on the ET streets and run a light fuel load, or whether to top it off for some ballast and run on the stock radials.

Since I had managed to run the 11.96 on the ET streets the last time out, I decided to go work on my radial tire skills.

I was late getting out there, and the track was packed. I was only able to get three passes in.

The first pass I launched the car at about 3000 Rpm and slipped the clutch. The clutch seemed to stick at about 3/4 of the way when I released it. It popped loose towards the top of 1st gear. I had not encountered this before in the Z. I hope this was a one time event, but I will be keeping an eye on this.

The launch RPM seemed to be low, and the car didn't move as hard as I wanted. Also, as usual on my first run, I banged the rev limiter twice. Usually my first run is a total blow off run , and then I get settled down and actually drive like I am supposed to. Instead of like a total goober. The timeslip reflected this.

60' - 1.947
330 -5.233
1/8 - 7.967
mph - 91.13
1000 - 10.298
1/4 - 12.280
mph - 112.35

I decided to weigh the car with a full ( and I mean completely FULL) load of fuel. The car weighed 3150 without me, and 3338 with me.

The next pass, I was in the lanes, and the guy in front wanted to race me. He was driving a mid 90's white Mustang LX. So, I said sure. He also said that he owned a WS6. He and his friends were nice, and we talked for a few minutes.

We staged the cars, he staged last and they dropped the light on us. He got me out of the hole by about a car length. I launced again at around 3000, since I didn't want to go up in smoke against a rustang.

The car launched about the same, maybe a little less. But, the car started to spin towards the end of of 1st and bumped the rev limiter. I had to chop throttle and shift It also wheelhopped a bit as it went into 2nd. By this point I was 1 to 1 1/2 car lengths behing the mustang. In 2nd nothing changed drastically. But when I stuck it in 3rd, the tables turned. I went from 1 length behind to 3 lengths in front. As most folks have noted the car really works in 3rd gear. I was happy that I beat him, but it was definitely not the best pass I ever made.

60' - 1.973
330 - 5.366
1/8 - 8.120
mph - 90.54
1000 - 10.463
1/4 - 12.445
mph - 114.32

The final pass was at the end of the night. I had hot lapped the car back around, and the temperature was around 205 degrees. I went to pull up, to do my burnout, and watched the car in fron of me leave. It was some silly kid in a 85 LX. He spun hard leaving and got completely sideways at the 330' mark and stopped inches from hitting the wall head on. He also took out the timing markers as he slid sideways. This idiot was spinning when he left and should have chopped throttle long before he got sideways. His car was drifting all over the place and probably ran all of a 15.1. They got on the radio after his little stunt and had someone go find him, and throw him out of the track.

Anyhow, they got the track cleaned off, and put in a new reflector, and I finally got to make my pass. They let me make my last pass by myself. I decide to try and raise the launch rpm, since I the night was over. I launched at about 4200. The car launched much better this time. I was able to keep my revs in the 5000 range all the way through 1st. The car didn't feel like it was spinning at all in 1st. The pass felt good all the way until I got to the 3-4 shift. I got greedy trying to stretch 3rd and bumped the limiter. I knew it cost me some time and mph.

Anyhow, I picked up my slip, and I was happy to see that the car had improved.

60' - 1.903
330 - 5.165
1/8 - 7.873
mph - 91.54
1000 - 10.200
1/4 - 12.181
mph - 112.21

Looks like the rev limiter was worth at least 2 mph and I would guess probably a tenth of a second. Anyhow, I am going to try and go next time and see if I can get those radial times into the magical 12.0 - 11.99 range.

Last edited by J-Rod on 01-29-2002 at 08:12 AM

01-28-2002 06:34 PM

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I went out the next weekend and made my fastest pass to date. 1.85 -60' / 11.933@114.52. I have since gone faster in the 60', but I am having clutch problems (not with it slipping, but with the pedal sticking to the floor). Until that is resolved, I probably will not be getting into the 11.80's. But anyway, my goal for the next few months is to get into the 11.80s or faster on the stock radials.

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11.933@114.52 Bone Stock on Radials
Well I went out to HRP this evening for a little instant green action. It was cold and windy tonight the weather shows 7mph, but, think it was closer to 10-15. The temperature was between 48 and 51 degrees when I got there and went down to 45 when I left.

Current Temp: 45 °F
Wind Chill: 41 °F
Wind: north at 7 mph
Humidity: 58%
Dewpoint: 31 °F
Barometer: 30.46 " and rising

The wind was blowing straight down the track, so you were running into a headwind.

My first pass was my usual blow off pass. I launched to hard and the car spun. 2.218 60' - 12.571@113.61

My next pass felt pretty good. Not great, but good. The car launched ok, I hit the rev limikter in 1st, but the rest of the pass was pretty solid. I got pulled over at the timing stand.

60' - 1.915
330 - 5.130
1/8 - 7.777
mph - 93.56
1000 - 10.055
1/4 - 11.992
mph - 114.73

Ok, I was given the warning and sent back to tech for the usual "Don't do that again". Ok, sure

I tried to cool the car down since there wasn't much of a crowd, and I could almost drive right up to the line. I decided that if the pass felt the least bit off, I would abort it, and see if I could get a "good" run in.

I made two more passes. One felt good, but the clutch stuck to the floor again and didn't come off until the car hit the rev limiter in 1st.

It was a 1.919 60' 12.324@93.61 on the brakes hard.

The next pass I had the car cool, and then something screwed up on the far end, so I had to sit there with both bulbs on and staged and let the car get hot, and the tires get cold. The car spun so I just coasted down the track.

I brought the car back around the coolant was at 194. The car launched pretty hard for radials, and bumped the rev limiter in 1st. The pass felt solid, so I stayed with it.

When I got to the timing stand I got the usual grief. I went through all the hooplah, and picked up my slip.

60' - 1.852
330 - 5.055
1/8 - 7.709
mph - 93.32
1000 - 9.992
1/4 - 11.933
mph - 114.53

So, I guess its time for a cage either that, or I get 1 or 2 passes per trip to the track.

Anyhow, I met another new Z06 owner Brutus0725 he just traded in his 2000 coupe for a 2002 z06. He was out there with paper tags and running some 12.3s. Which I thought was good for a new car with limited seat time. He was really cool, and I had a good time talking with him. Anyhow, I was pleased to see the car picking up still.

And as always, the car is 100% bone stock down to the paper air filter, and these passes were made on the stock radials.

02-11-2002 02:18 AM

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So, I guess in closing all I am trying to say is that all that it really takes to go in the low 12 or high 11s is a little practice and some decent weather...

 

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> camaro_ls1
Member # 2673 posted October 28, 2002 03:36 PM
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SSBoy

I don't mean to be rude, but I'd be pissed if I spent $50K+ and got a 12.7s ET. I know it's more of a road course car. Still high 12's for that much money is not impressive at all. Bone stock f-bodies have run 12.7's. There's a post going right now where a guy ran 12.43.

Just my 2cents. Don't think I wouldn't trade my Z28 for a Z06 in a second though.
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Ride in a zo6 and you will see that you get what you pay for. I thought that my dad was an idiot for paying that much for a car that is as fast as my cammed camaro, its so much smoother and just as fast, its amazing!

 

Wow...
Haven't checked this post in a day, and got some good replies <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

thanks everyone for your replies....(good and bad)

Camaro ls1,
like i said in my original post, this was my VERY first time out with the Z. I'll admit, those times are "okay" but they will be improved with better driving and more practice. As far as 12.43 goes for that Z, thats one hek of a time!!! Cant aruge with that

Cutting sub 2.0 sixty foot on poorly prepped tracks can be very difficult, and thats why my E.T. suffered.

The car has less than 1k miles, so adding a few more miles on the car can't hurt, will probably only help actually.

I didnt buy the car just to drag race it. Hek, you outa see the way it handles <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> I've never been in a car that handles so well... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" />

Im just out to have fun in the car, and what i run is what i run

Jack

<small>[ October 30, 2002, 12:18 AM: Message edited by: SSBoy ]</small>

 

I understand completely. Like I said, my intention wasn't to flame you at all. I said that I would be pissed if I spent all that money and only ran a 12.7. I am fully aware of the Z06's capabilities and they truly are a badass car.