Roger White

My 02 Vette A4 3.15 geared vette ran a 12.73 @ 107 mph with only a conical K&N filter only.

I'm not sure but most 01 and up Vettes are faster. (Edit I see yours is a 01.)
Try swapping cars cause a equal modded car should result the same, I'll bet the vette by a nose.

<small>[ March 20, 2003, 04:12 PM: Message edited by: Roger White ]</small>

RamAirTransAmer

c5 vettes are a dime a dozen around here... my ws-6 with zo6 rims gets WAY more looks than any stock c5

J-Rod

I had a choice on what I wanted to buy. I chose the C5 simply because it is a better all around car. That is not to slam F-Body owners. But, if you look at the engineering of the two cars, there is no comparison...

My Vette weighs 3021 without me in it and a light load of fuel. It dyno'd 358 stock, and 372 with the factory lid off.

It has run a an 11.596@118 on Et Streets and the lid off, and 11.933@114 on the stock radials with the lid on.

Show me a Camaro that can run those times...

My Vette is faster, lighter, better handling, and will stop quicker than an F-Body. And yes, it cost more. I accepted that when I bought the car.

F-Body's are cool. I have thought about picking one up from time to time, and I may at some point. But, until you've owner a Vette don't knock em. I have had the opportunity to spend some time behind the wheel of a 98 Camaro. It was a cool car. But the Vette is simply light years ahead...

For the record I own a
67 Camaro SS350
72 Nova
87 GN
02 Z06

Ling_650vette

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Who ******* gives a **** already?

So what who gets more looks, so what who's faster...its not like we're drivin riced out Integra's or Civics hoping our "phat rides" win the "best of show award @ NOPI"

Like what you like, and enjoy your vehicle..hell, its yours, you paid enough for it to do whatever you want to it, so enjoy the SOB.

Only thing this post is getting us, is an agreement to disagree. Everyone has a "my XXXX beat XXXX" story to tell, so its pointless, as we've all seen by now. Corvette faithfull, Fbody faithfull, theres no point in arguing...lets just agree to disagree, and **** off the Blue Oval ****. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_images/icons/tongue.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[evil]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_devil.gif" />

JetBlack98Z

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Nicely Sayed Ling !!!
Im all with ya man !!! <img border="0" alt="[burn out]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_burnout.gif" />

Steve-0

vetteemt

First I own both a F-body 98 Camaro SS and a 79 Corvette. If you check out the corvette forum there are lots of corvette owners that own f-bodies too and vis versa. To the C5 faithful yea they are nice but an old school corvette will get more looks then a new one. Lets face it when most people think of a Corvette most picture a vette between 63-82. Why because when growing up that was the vette you saw driven down the street or sitting next door in the driveway.

For performance yes the C5 is better in braking and handling, but they are equal in straight line performance. Tho the C5 holds an edge because of areos and weight. But if you think about it when there was a F-body to buy new, it would cost around $30K. Where a C5 will run you around $50K. For $20K more I’d hope to shout that the car better be a better performer. Also to that point if you took a F-body and sunk $20K into it would be able to run easily with a new C5 all the way around. Also its a PITA to get 4 people in to a Corvette, where its just a pain to get them into an f-body.

Its also sad to see Corvette owns thinking that they are better then everyone else because they own a vette. Also its sad to see everyone else assume that Vette owners are just stuck up and know nothing about cars.

Really it boils down to that both cars have strong followings. Both cars have there advantages and disadvantages. Also aren’t we all made by that same company? We all love to be on the street and beat a Viper or some ricer thats thinking his coffee can exhaust instantly put him in the 10’s. Oh and don’t forget about the Blue oval boys there are fun to play with too.

So instead a fighting among our selfves shouldn't we be working how to improve our cars performance. Both F-body Ls1's and Corvette Ls1's like the same mods and both having a big after market keeps the prices down on parts too.

In a nut shell "Can't we all just get along?" <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />

<small>[ March 25, 2003, 04:11 AM: Message edited by: vetteemt ]</small>

Ling_650vette

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Sorry if i came across as an ******* in my previous post...its just this is turning into a pissing contest, and not an actual discussion. Agree to disagree and move on...

Dean-o

Okay, quick list before I speak, I have owned:
1967 Camaro RS
1971 Camaro SS
1985 Camaro
1996 Camaro
1997 Camaro Z-28
1999 Camaro SS (my current car)
1969 Corvette conv.
1972 Corvette conv.

I am 41 years old and love both cars, when my SS is paid for in another year I will either buy a new vette or another 69 Stingray.... sigh, the memories. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
My son said to give him my car and get an old man car. I said "what is an old man car" (he's 21), and he said "a vette". And I thought to myself, hell yeah... I want an old man car. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
So the perception is that the cheaper f-body is driven by younger less experienced drivers. And I can sympathize with that, although I may be an exception. But I long for another Corvette because my 69 Stingray was true love and I don't know if I will ever own a car that I love as much.
That car was my woman and my baby.
So I say, drive what turns you on, and know that they are from the same family of vehicles and should be acknowledged as such.

Dean <img border="0" alt="[USA]" title="" src="graemlins/patriot.gif" />

BayouVette

Quote
hate to say it but I would say my WS6 gets more looks than C5's any day.

I'm not saying the ws6 is better, I'm just saying that it has better looks with the aggressive hood and everything else.
Quote.

You obviously dont have a vette or never been in one.

The Juggernaut

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by J-Rod:
<strong> My Vette weighs 3021 without me in it and a light load of fuel. It dyno'd 358 stock, and 372 with the factory lid off.

It has run a an 11.596@118 on Et Streets and the lid off, and 11.933@114 on the stock radials with the lid on.

Show me a Camaro that can run those times...

</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">This camaro can run those times.Without the bigger
cam,better flowing heads,and gearing ratio.
You have a point about the vette being a better
all around car,especially the Z06.
Not even a comparison. <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />

vertvett

this hole thing seems to be between the havs and the havenots. a vette and a fbody all move pretty good but they are worlds apart. if you dont know the derfencn then FORGETABOUTIT

unit213

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by vertvett:
<strong> this hole thing seems to be between the havs and the havenots. a vette and a fbody all move pretty good but they are worlds apart. if you dont know the derfencn then FORGETABOUTIT </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">What are these Corvettes you guys keep talking about? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" /> Oh ya, now I remember I see them all the time when I look in my rear view mirror. <img border="0" alt="[jester]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_jest.gif" />

Just kidding. I'm probably getting one in a month or two. It's common knowledge that 'vettes and f-bodies are not on the same level even though they have the same powerplant.

Ling_650vette

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Just agree to disagree and move on...

The pissing contest has gone on long enough

IronDonut

The Vette' guys didn't get jipped at all. You should feel happy that GM decided to install the powerplant designed for a $50k car in your $25k car. With that said just about everything about the Vette, Chassis, looks, brakes, suspension, everything is better on the Vette. You get what you pay for.

FYI: I own neither a Vette or F-Body, I'm building an LS1 conversion.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by I8COBRA:
<strong> You LS1 C5 guys got jipped <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">

IronDonut

Oh god. Where do I start with this?

20 years from now you will look at the C5 and say "thats a nice looking car." The Firebird? Overstyled crap which is the norm from Pontiac.

The only reason that you get more looks in the WS6 is because most of the people that look at it probably have a hope of affording it therefor they look at it. With the Vette, likely there is no hope so they don't give it a second look.

I don't think there is any question which one that most performance buffs would lean toward if cost were no option.


</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by BayouVette:
<strong> Quote
hate to say it but I would say my WS6 gets more looks than C5's any day.

I'm not saying the ws6 is better, I'm just saying that it has better looks with the aggressive hood and everything else.
Quote.

You obviously dont have a vette or never been in one. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">

DG Gordon

I have had 1 z-28 2-SSs a Cobra and other 5.0 stangs and a TA. I now have a Vette and I love it. However it is not as fast as either one of the SSs. But it is a far better car no doubt!

2000LS1Z28

The way I look at it is an F-body is an F-body and a Corvette is a Corvette. Even though they share the same power/drive train, I look at them as two totally different cars. Like someone else said, you get what you pay for with each of these platforms. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

As to which one looks better, well thats all about personal preference/perception.

And we all know what they're capable of, so please stop arguing this point.

Have a good day guys,

Mike

2002 M6 Z28

vette

Well I need to put in my two cents worth.. I am older than anyone who posted their age.. I own a vette.. 2000 Hardtop It has a lot of HP It has a cage.. 5 point harness... I will use that power any time I can safely.... I love my vette, but there is some very nice Camaros,Pontiacs and such..I just like my vette better..

The Juggernaut

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Corvettes are slow
F-bodies are quick. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />

This isn't even a comparison.

Drive a Z06,drive a camaro.

NO ONE is going to say "I like the Camaro better" <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
If they do,they've probably suffered some kind
of head injury. <img border="0" alt="[jester]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_jest.gif" />

Jpr5690

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being the owner of an 02 ta i have had this same argument with my self and others many times . here is just wah i came up with for points in either directions my sitiuation was i has about 30k to buy a car and i have access to auctions so i can get whole sale used cars my decsion ultmately was to buy a new T\A instead of an c5 the reason i did this was i am quite obessvie about my car and wanted the car from 1 mile not some golfers lease throw away. now that being said from a drag point of view imo your best off buying a raged out 98 and just striping it down and buliding it up i say this beacouse retail you can spend like 6 k on the car and just dump the rest of your cash into a asome street machine. i mean imaging it i bought my car for 6k i would had 24k to dump into bulding the meanist street maching ive ever seen. conversly if i was one who was looking for lux and status symbols then a vett would shine more to my liking since most upper class view the f-bodys as a lower income car. (o yea if i was looking for mostly status then id but a used m3 instead of a vett) now that said to compare a used vett to a new T\A is bs compare a used vett to a used ta and you will see for drag the the f body is a better deal primarily beacouse their so cheep and that would leave a good deal more money for mods. the only reason i see to buy a used vett over a used T\A is if your track racing and need that ira then the vett would excell. As far as resail value it is a blaten LIE to say vetts hold their value better a 2 year old vett has lost almost half its value retail and much more black book while a two year old fboys has usally only lost about 1\3 its value. to prove this open a autotrader and look at a 00" vett they sell for about 30k while their stickered above 50k in most cases while i got into my ta for 27k and WHOLESALE(black book) its still worth over 20 k simple math will tell you this the misconseption stems from the substantial intial drop in the vetts value beacouse so many buy these cars after a lease turn in they percive the car as holding its value better from the time they bought it beacouse the previous owner took the big hit when he sold a 3 yr old car. from what ive seen hp they cars are almost dead equil (nothing a good set of tires or a good driver couldent deal with) BUT the vett has a better suspension in its stock GM presented form. Additonally the vett is lighter which would allow it to net better et's. next on ther interrior they both have cheep interrior but its very easy to change it and imo almost any stock interrion on a domestic car is lacking taste. (nothing some leather and cust. fiberglass cant solve) finally, as far as luxery goes yes the corvett has a few more features but if comparing new to new id rather have 20k in my pocket or in my engine beacouse as features go a SLP 427 and and a 200 shot of nos will scare away even the meanist zo6 or viper nevermind a little c5