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Old Sep 6, 2005 | 02:10 PM
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If I may answer for him, it's an FRC, so it's a M6.
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Old Sep 6, 2005 | 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Slow Vette
is ur vette a A4 or M6?


sorry,...FRC, M6(6 speed only)
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Old Sep 6, 2005 | 09:51 PM
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so if i hold the button down for 5 sec it will put in comp mode all the time or just till the emgine is turned off? will it say something on the dash screen thanks
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Old Sep 6, 2005 | 10:56 PM
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so if i hold the button down for 5 sec it will put in comp mode all the time or just till the emgine is turned off? will it say something on the dash screen thanks
yes, it will stay in that mode until u shut the engine down and yes, it will say "competitive Driving" on the dash screen. just hold the button down till it says competitive driving. damn i wish i had a M6
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Old Sep 7, 2005 | 01:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Slow Vette
yes, it will stay in that mode until u shut the engine down and yes, it will say "competitive Driving" on the dash screen. just hold the button down till it says competitive driving. damn i wish i had a M6
Or you can get a Laptrak, that'll put it in comp mode everytime you start car automatically.
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Old Sep 7, 2005 | 05:28 AM
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Personally, I think this IRS business is bullshit. I've seen a LOT of dyno runs and have never witnessed much of a difference between the two cars (F vs. Y bodies). I've also owned both a 1999 Camaro SS and a 2000 Corvette. The 'Vette was about equal to the SS both on the dyno and at the drag strip when bone-stock. The only real difference I noted was that the C5 was a stronger top-end car when stock than the SS was and that it took to mods better and got faster at a quicker pace than the SS did with the same or similar mods. I attribute this to weight and aerodynamics.

If you go to a Corvette Challenge drag meet sometime you'll see that the C5's IRS doesn't seem to be handicapping any of the cars there. Also, keep in mind that the 'Vettes that once terrorized the streets in the '60's were also equipped with IRS and it didn't seem to hurt them much either.
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Old Sep 7, 2005 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by XTrooper
Personally, I think this IRS business is bullshit. I've seen a LOT of dyno runs and have never witnessed much of a difference between the two cars (F vs. Y bodies). I've also owned both a 1999 Camaro SS and a 2000 Corvette. The 'Vette was about equal to the SS both on the dyno and at the drag strip when bone-stock. The only real difference I noted was that the C5 was a stronger top-end car when stock than the SS was and that it took to mods better and got faster at a quicker pace than the SS did with the same or similar mods. I attribute this to weight and aerodynamics.

If you go to a Corvette Challenge drag meet sometime you'll see that the C5's IRS doesn't seem to be handicapping any of the cars there. Also, keep in mind that the 'Vettes that once terrorized the streets in the '60's were also equipped with IRS and it didn't seem to hurt them much either.
would TMS handicap them??
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Old Sep 7, 2005 | 01:40 PM
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Yes, TMS is a performance hindrance.
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Old Sep 7, 2005 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by NOSjohn
Yes, TMS is a performance hindrance.


...on any car.
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Old Sep 8, 2005 | 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Slow Vette
would TMS handicap them??
Yes, absolutely. However, TM is given to cars in different doses by GM. I know that the GTO's got clubbed with TM, but I'm not sure what the differences are between F and Y bodies, if any.
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Old Sep 8, 2005 | 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by XTrooper
Yes, absolutely. However, TM is given to cars in different doses by GM. I know that the GTO's got clubbed with TM, but I'm not sure what the differences are between F and Y bodies, if any.


F and Y bodies both have TM. ALot of people didin't know F-bodies did, hell, I didn't know until a couple of months ago.
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Old Sep 8, 2005 | 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Slow Vette
i don't get why C5's put down less power, on the dyno, than LS1 F-bodies stock for stock or with minor bolt-ons? i mean is it in the tune, that they get from the factory and if thats true, than why would GM do this to C5's?
I thought it was the electric seat wouldn't let me push the pedal to the floor!
I am only 5'6". Less power due to IRS but < weight and better Aero= more topend.

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Old Sep 9, 2005 | 05:05 AM
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Originally Posted by V-seriesTech
F and Y bodies both have TM. ALot of people didin't know F-bodies did, hell, I didn't know until a couple of months ago.
I'm aware of the fact that F and Y bodies have TM. I've owned both. My point was that I don't know how much or how aggressively the TM has been applied to them. The new GTO's got a major dose of TM from the factory which is one of the things that has been hurting them at the drag strip.
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Old Sep 9, 2005 | 10:29 AM
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I believe it's Cartech that has a fix for TM on the GTO.
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Old Sep 10, 2005 | 04:29 PM
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are there any more little secrets like the 5 sec button that us new owners need to know abouit? ican tell a big diff with the comp driving on!
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Old Sep 10, 2005 | 09:29 PM
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Keep in mind that there are two TMS, one for the engine one for the tranny (auto).
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Old Sep 11, 2005 | 11:53 AM
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is this button the one thats in the center console
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Old Sep 11, 2005 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by TigerSharkVette
is this button the one thats in the center console
Yup, press it down for 5-7 seconds and you'll be in competitive driving mode.
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Old Sep 12, 2005 | 09:45 PM
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What year did the competitive driving mode come out? Also whats this i hear TM in 6-speed cars? Isnt TM only in the auto f-bodies and auto y-bodies.
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 05:46 AM
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Competitive driving mode was present right from the very start...TM in the six speeds is basically the Torque limit value that is present in the torque management segment of the programming...It does not pull timing at shifts, like the auto's do, but the if the PCM calculates that the engine is making more torque than the factory programmed value, it will pull timing until it's calculation is safely below the set point...

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