FLeXNuTZ

Is there really all that much difference between them? I know that the '01-'04 Z06 will run the 1/4 an average of 12.4@116 or so and as fast as 11.8@119 with an excellent driver. I've heard times of 11.7@125 for the new Z but I don't know where those numbers came from.

I got on kbb.com and priced a '04 Z06 with 10,000 miles on it and its private party value was right around $41,500. I've heard some people say that the new Z06 has been going for around $85,000 with a MSRP of around $66,000.

As far as handling goes I don't really know much about the two cars but I assume the new Z06 isn't all that much better than the C5 model in the twisties.

As far as looks goes I'm not sure I like the C6 Z06 more than the C5 model. What do you guys think? I personally think that the performance and cosmetic differences between the two isn't worth $40,000+. Hell, the '01 Z06s are in the low $30,000 range now, aren't they?

TransAm52804

It's faster, quicker, lighter, more powerful, handles better, and has upgraded technology and parts compared to the C5. Also read up on the actual skeleton of the car and you'll realize why the car is so much more expensive.

In some areas, it's a bit better than the C5; in other areas, it's MUCH better than the C5.

Also, with your dragstrip comparo between the two, look at the speeds. While their times are SOMEWHAT close (a C5 ZO6 hitting the 11's is about as common as an Fbody hitting the 12's... stock of course). Motor Trend actually got the new Z to do 11.5 @ 127 (you'll obviously see better times from more drivers once the car is out with the public... I'd expect to see low 11's become the norm for this car on street tires). The C5 runs mid-high 110's, while the C6 runs mid-high 120's: obviously it's hindered by lack of traction but pulls like a **** up top and had the speed/power for 10's EASILY on a pair of DR's.

Plus it's a brand new car: obviously it's gonna be more expensive. And with it coming out, it kinda drops the price of the C5's since the C6's are the "new thing" overshadowing the C5's to the public.

Give it a while for the hype to die down, and the price will come closer to MSRP.

But yes, basically everything about it is more advanced and more upper-scale (in terms of performance and tech). The C5 ZO6 is an affordable sportscar. The C6 ZO6 is an affordable supercar.

Ling_650vette

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Couldnt have said it any better. Where the C5 Z06 used innovation, the C6 Z06 expanded on it. Not only in the LS7 but in the body, in the chassis, in the suspension - everything! While no car really is 100% perfect, the C6 Z06 definatley ranks high in that category. People will bitch about the interior, and its "hard to distinguish" looks from a coupe C6 but ya know what - thats just secondary IMO. The car is a super car threat.

The hype will be there for awhile w/ this thing. The 85k pricetag is ludacris, even for a brand new first year car (unless its some joe-schmo dealer w/ only 1 allotted). People are buying these things near MSRP in some cases, so if you know how to play your cards you can get a deal.

And the looks alone arent worth the increased price but the better suspension, engine, interior (somewhat), engineering etc are. Its the total package thats worth more, not just the looks. While some 01s are in the mid/high 20s now, the C6 Z06 has more stock potential than the C5. Both of them are amazing cars and are showing that GM can compete in this arena, although (IMO) they have been showing that since the latter days of the C4 platform.

FLeXNuTZ

I know that the C6 model is a brand new design but I didn't realize it was that much more technologically advanced. I haven't done much research and I figured that the '01-'04 was just bolt-ons and a cam away from being right there with the C6 model. So basically the new Z06 is more stable at high speeds, grips the corners better, has a navigation system, and its drivetrain is more advanced? I'm sure there are other goodies it has that the C5 models don't also. I don't know though, I bet the C5 Z06 will still be attractive to a lot of people. Its still pretty rare to buy a stock car that will run mid to low 12s.

ROCNDAV

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I thought the C5 did 10.9 in the 1/4?

It has carbon Fiber body panels (even the floor is a c/f and blasa wood sandwich).

I didn't care for the C6 Looks at first (I like the C5 look better). The C6 looks too much like its trying to be a Ferrari. But I was driving next to a C6 the other day, and although it has subtle differences form the base model, it does look better.

My first thought as I drove up from behind was "now that C6 actually looks good", then I saw the wide 19x13" rear wheels and new it was a Z06, then I confirmed the badge. The rear fenders look like they are bulged out a bit (kind of like a TA versus a Camaro). 14" rotors, Ti Rods...the new C6 Z06 kicks ***.

RyanJ

Lets see. Every single thing on the C6Z is better than on the C5Z. Everything. Body, interior, options, engine, suspension, tires, wheels, etc., etc. And I have a feeling people will be going DEEP 11's stock once we get some drivers out there. They've only been on the streets a month or two.

LC2nLS6

The new Z06 is NOT lighter than my '01. I don't know if they weigh the new cars with gas or what, but my '01 Z06 weighs 3000 #'s +- 10#'s w/ about 1/8 tank of gas. I've seen the new ones reported to weigh more than the base C6 at 3140# and change. '01 Z06's weigh less than '02-04 models because GM added more stuff to it, such as thicker front glass to support the new for '02 HUD's and more safety metal in the doors IIRC and some other stuff I don't remember. The wheels on the 01's were forged and then they went to spin cast which should weigh the same but maybe not. z06vette.com prolly has the answers.

Other than that the new Z06 will flat out tear it up...

JBsC5

Yes! The new C6 Z06 is really that much better than a C5 Z06 and I dig my car.

There is no comparision...The C6 Z06 really is that much better. Its the total package.

Its a lot of money! No question about it but it is worth it for the new C6 Z06.

Its that good.


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2001 ZO6 TTP 224/224 114lsa Cam Pkg 396rwhp 380 rwtq, dual crane valvesprings, Halltech Tunnel Ram, FLP headers, ASP 25% Pully, 3.73 Getrag Rear,2004 Z06 shocks,Shaner S2 TB,Hurst

Racie

I love my ZO6, but yes there is that much difference between these cars. You'd betta bring more than your A game when pull up next to one....

marcus769

I agree..

Everything about the Z06 (to me) is better from an outside point of view. I dont own or have never owned either one, but have drivin an 04 Z06 for a few miles and throughly enjoyed every second. I subscribe to all the car mags, and have grown to learn from their expert opinions. Motor trend's test of the 2006 Z06 shows almost a second quicker than the above listed times for the C5Z. The car in Motor Trend for those who have not read is 11.5 @127.1 mph. 3.5 0-60mph. Almost a full second in the quarter mile, and you want to compare? There is no comparison in performace stock vs stock. When the C6 was first released, i didnt really see a whole lot had changed at first glance, but after attending the Corvette/SSR sales training session in Milwaukee, i realized the C6 is a whole new car... Almost everthing you could imagine changed. The C6 is a complete package, and the Z06 is just simply AMAZING!

itsfast

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I love the overall performance of the new Z's, but I am still not sold on the C6 look. But then again, for a $65k+ MSRP(and that's what you can buy it for), it's a hell of a buy. Long live the 427!!

Now if they can figure out what's going on with the leaking tranny's....

cantdrv65

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There really is no comparison between the two cars. A c5 Z06 and a regular C6 you could compare, but a C6 Z06 is better in ever single category...

Dean-o

Differences?
Let's see... aluminum frame, magnesium engine cradle, 427 deck honed motor with titanium rods and oversized titanium valves in racing heads, exhaust with butterflys to open up during wide open throttle, carbon fiber front fenders and I think fender skirts, dry sump oiling (usually only on race cars), huge 6 piston brakes up front and 4 piston in the rear with individual pads for a total of 20 break pads, 325 rear tires on aluminum rims, etc. , etc.

Get the idea?

Ling_650vette

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I didnt think the fender's or anything were CF on the production car, just the C6-R?

But there is no comparison. Both cars are phenominal, and proved yet again Chevy/GM can build a hellacious car with "dinosaur" tech that can whallop the competition in every category. But where the C5 Z06 left off, the C6 Z06 is just beginning.

z06matt

Is that all? j/k

When are you getting a new Z06?

way2go

We all like certain generation or year Vettes. I just do not like the look of the C6. Mouth like a Viper,etc.etc. Z06 C5 has the look I like best.

Ling_650vette

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Ive never understood the Viper comparison with the C6. If anything, it looks like a 360 Modena in the front end IMO.

seabirdak

both are great cars!

Rhino21149

I agree, except for the styling, but then it took me 3 years to get used to the C6, so maybe the C6's long wheelbase look, and the new ZO6's bulgy rear fenders will grow on me.

It seems to me this thing really boils down to how much you spend for your speed. The new ZO6 lists at $65 and will probably not seel at MSRP for quite some time. For that you can buy a really good 04 ZO6 and a lot of aftermarket equipment.

As illustration: compare two road tests: both done by Car anddriver magazine. their recent test of the latest ZO6 (11.7@126) and a test they did of a standard C5 with a Magnusen SC kit on it (an early non-intercooled one) in the March of April '02 issue: 11.7@127. These are rather consistent tests by the same magazine and emphasize the point. An '04 ZO6 with a Magnusen and brake/wheel/other upgrades would cost about $50K and perform roughly as good as a stock new one. You would not have the glamour of the new, but you'd have the fun of customized your own unique ride, and $15k left over.

2MuchRiceMakesMeSick

they do look similar




I know which one I like better