Yank's 4L80-E for the c-5 /c-6 is ready
05-12-2006, 01:19 PM
#41
11 Second Club
iTrader: (3)
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Covington, LA
Posts: 687
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by GTFORMULA
Well I just talked to mike and the price for this is about $10,500. I could not believe it when I heard that . I think Ill pass and stick with my 6 speed. I could never pay that much for a tranny but thats my opinion and if you got the money and want the best than be my guest.
Mike
05-12-2006, 01:30 PM
#42
On The Tree
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Milwaukee WI
Posts: 180
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
If you are making the power that this trans can hold than I would think you are better off with 10,500 tranny than one you constantly have to put $$$ into. that and not having to worry about who is going to tow your car home from the track when it does go.
05-12-2006, 03:52 PM
#43
TECH Resident
iTrader: (94)
Join Date: May 2003
Location: port st lucie florida
Posts: 990
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I agree if you have that kind of money for a trans then get it .For the normal working class person that wants a good trans this is out of the question. Any reasonable person knows 10 grand for a tranny is too high for everyone. Im not saying its not worth the money its just that no normal person could afford that.
05-14-2006, 11:00 PM
#44
True, its silly expensive, for the the few guys that are running solid 9's in full weight cars and don't want to rebuild AT LEAST ONCE per season, and very possibly be stranded at the track, this is a viable option. I spent $3771 plus my core on a Rossler tranny, it broke, and I had to spend more money at RPM for a rebuild. I still have a 4L60E, with all of its inherent weaknesses, and have WAY over $4000 in it....If I had the option a couple of years ago, I would have gone with the newly released 4L80E kit from Speed Inc. for F-bodies (NOTE: THIS IS NOT FOR C5, ONLY YANK SELLS THIS KIT).
For big power and reliability, there are guys over at corvetteforum that have literally over $100K in their cars, and are getting pretty tired of breaking tranny's or not being able to use all their power. For them, $10K is not out of the realm of possibility for the peace of mind of not breaking at the track and having a very streetable package.
SDB
P.S. I live in Ft. Wayne, and Dynotech has a miserable reputation here locally, somehow they do have a rep on corvetteforum, but not locally. I know of four people locally that have pretty bad experiences with this shop. I have done no business with this company, but have heard and seen the horror stories. His comments on this thread are pretty much how he talks to his customers AFTER he has their money and gives them their cars back.
For big power and reliability, there are guys over at corvetteforum that have literally over $100K in their cars, and are getting pretty tired of breaking tranny's or not being able to use all their power. For them, $10K is not out of the realm of possibility for the peace of mind of not breaking at the track and having a very streetable package.
SDB
P.S. I live in Ft. Wayne, and Dynotech has a miserable reputation here locally, somehow they do have a rep on corvetteforum, but not locally. I know of four people locally that have pretty bad experiences with this shop. I have done no business with this company, but have heard and seen the horror stories. His comments on this thread are pretty much how he talks to his customers AFTER he has their money and gives them their cars back.
05-17-2006, 02:00 AM
#46
Originally Posted by Runwhatchabrung
are you serious ten grand for that tranny? What i sit made of gold. Please explain if true....
If you were making the horsepower you would think it was worth it.
05-18-2006, 08:28 PM
#48
On The Tree
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: PNW
Posts: 160
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by blown2kss
There is a lot to this kit, and it is a lot of money. But it will cost more in about a month. The price is going up to $13,000 after the initial 30 days.
It's a catch 22 on a special build like that.
They could produce them cheaper if they could sell more.
They could sell more if the price was cheaper.
But putting up the capitol investment for 100 - 1000 trannies to get the cost down would be a risk.
05-22-2006, 01:25 PM
#49
A couple of thoughts:
6 years or so ago Mike built me a TH400 conversion for my 99 twin turbo ls1 f-body ( the original Incon prototype car, FAST ORANGE)
THE th400 kit back then cost me over 4000.00 with everything and everyone said you are crazy for spending 4k for a th400 kit. 5 years later everyone is jumping at the chance to spend 4K once to keep from having trans rebuilds all the time.
I now have a 660-700 rwhp c5 m6 and here are my 2 year costs from wear and tear from racing.
2 clutches @ 1200.00 each plus labor total cost approx $ 3200.00
DTE brace $ 600 installed
m6 rebuild / upgrade plus labor as it went out after the new clutch was installed
total cost w/ labor 2,000.00
So im close to 6K and will never stop spending money so long as I drive the car hard.
With this 4l80 setup you change the fluid once a year and after 3-4 years it has paid for itself easy.
If I hadn't just spent 20K building my new setup I would be doing this conversion as we speak. Hell I may do it anyway because I hate breaking parts even more than spending money.
Great job Mike and I will be calling you soon as Im pondering this conversion for my FRC and Im also thinking about buying my Orange car back from Eddie I just cant decide if I want/need that Camaro in my life again.
6 years or so ago Mike built me a TH400 conversion for my 99 twin turbo ls1 f-body ( the original Incon prototype car, FAST ORANGE)
THE th400 kit back then cost me over 4000.00 with everything and everyone said you are crazy for spending 4k for a th400 kit. 5 years later everyone is jumping at the chance to spend 4K once to keep from having trans rebuilds all the time.
I now have a 660-700 rwhp c5 m6 and here are my 2 year costs from wear and tear from racing.
2 clutches @ 1200.00 each plus labor total cost approx $ 3200.00
DTE brace $ 600 installed
m6 rebuild / upgrade plus labor as it went out after the new clutch was installed
total cost w/ labor 2,000.00
So im close to 6K and will never stop spending money so long as I drive the car hard.
With this 4l80 setup you change the fluid once a year and after 3-4 years it has paid for itself easy.
If I hadn't just spent 20K building my new setup I would be doing this conversion as we speak. Hell I may do it anyway because I hate breaking parts even more than spending money.
Great job Mike and I will be calling you soon as Im pondering this conversion for my FRC and Im also thinking about buying my Orange car back from Eddie I just cant decide if I want/need that Camaro in my life again.
05-22-2006, 08:21 PM
#50
Originally Posted by 2002_Z28_Six_Speed
You guy realise how much stuff comes in the kit, right? It is more than just a ''gold trans."
If you were making the horsepower you would think it was worth it.
If you were making the horsepower you would think it was worth it.
Point blank there is no way on gods green earth that id spend that in a trans.
05-22-2006, 09:39 PM
#51
This is for the C5 guys who are making real power, 700 rwhp or more and are tired of spending $3000 on clutch, install three times a year. They are tired of spinning tires on each shift, and want the ease of an auto but also OD. For someone who has $100K in their car, another $10K is not that much. I spent nearly half this much on building two 4L60E tranny's so far....it is a great option for the people it is geared toward...the C5 crowd who have $50K plus in mods to their cars....
SDB
SDB
05-26-2006, 12:53 PM
#54
9 Second Club
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 407
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by Yank
Gear ratios of the TH400 and 4l80-e are the same.
stock is 2.48 1.48 1.1 .75 OD
The TH400 base unit is 12 lbs more than the 4l60-e and the 4l80-e is 50 lbs over the 4l60-e or 38 more than the TH400
stock is 2.48 1.48 1.1 .75 OD
The TH400 base unit is 12 lbs more than the 4l60-e and the 4l80-e is 50 lbs over the 4l60-e or 38 more than the TH400
Would the extra weight put more stress on the rear from a structual standpoint ?
05-26-2006, 01:11 PM
#55
Also the 2.48 first gear will help traction and the closer gear set will keep the engine in the power band.
The extra mass comes from, the structure of the trans. case, the strong cast iron front transmission pump (4l60-e is alum.) billet adapter plates and larger internal structure of the 4L80-e's parts
Note: transmission/ diff/ is tied to the frame so it will not weaken the rear diff. case and allows the twisting motion to transfer to the chassis not the differential housing
The extra mass comes from, the structure of the trans. case, the strong cast iron front transmission pump (4l60-e is alum.) billet adapter plates and larger internal structure of the 4L80-e's parts
Note: transmission/ diff/ is tied to the frame so it will not weaken the rear diff. case and allows the twisting motion to transfer to the chassis not the differential housing
