Killemall

Im sure most of us have read about it by now..Whats your opinion on the new snake?

CarsRFun

pics.. links... vids...
this thread sucks!

T-maxx

I don't think the new Viper is getting the 600hp power bump. Please post if you know anything different. The C6 Z will be king of the hill for a bit longer

SAM98WS6

http://www.planetsrt.com/general/2008_srt10_viper_to_pack_600_hp_001030.asp

its about time...for a while i thought Dodge was being GM and not a trend setter....the big question is $90k for a 600hp Viper or $100k+ for a 600hp Vette? I think id spend the extra chump change on the vette...

Chicago Crew UnderBoss

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Love the new VIPER with its 600 N/A ponies. Car is BAD AZZ in my opinion but I pretty much love any american muscle car capable of low 11 high 10 sec 1/4 mile ets stock from the factory with a warranty!!

T/A KID

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06 Z06 will still take the 600 hp Viper. First off the 06 Z06 is makeing 450 to the wheels in factory form, so with a 12 percent drivetrain loss its making at least 520 or more at the flywheel. Its going to take more than 80 hp to make up for the weight difference, 50/50 weight distribution, aerodynamics , and so on. Z06 weight is 3100 pounds and the Viper with the new and improved model in 08 will be at least 3500 pounds. The stock Z06 goes 10s if you put a sticky tire on the back. The 600 hp viper will get close.

This reminds me of the 500 hp Shelby GT (Cobra) versus a 400 hp C6. The corvette wins.

Camaro Junkie 1

I respect the Viper. But never liked the way she looked.

tigertank

like TA KID SAID PLUS THE INTERIOR COMFORTS OF THE Z06 VS VIPER THEY STILL DONT KNOW HOW TO PUT NAV AND OTHER COOL GADGETS DODGE NEEDS TO GO RIDE IN THE NEW Z06 THEN GO REDO THERE CAR

V8_Club

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Looks Sweet. Love the new hood. NA power levels from the factory are getting to new heights these days.

bfhawki

You have to respect any of the car makers that will put anything out like these cars with this kind of horsepower. I remember the early 70's when all the powers that be, just killed performance car with low compression and all the smog crap. It is fun to have a choice again to be able to go buy a factory hotrod again!!

Killemall

It takes a viper gen 2 or gen 3 490 rwhp to run dead even with a bone stock C6Z06...

So a gen 2 needs to add 80 rwhp while a gen 3 needs to add 50 rwhp to run dead even with a C6z06...

A 500 rwhp gen 2 or gen 3 Viper will pull a stock c6Z06...

600 crank HP minus the typical 9-12% drive train loss that the Viper has done for the past 14 years means that the new 2008 Viper should dyno from 525 -550 rwhp...

gen 1 400 HP vipers dynoed 365 rwhp on average..9% drive train loss

Gen 2 450HP vipers dynoed 410 rwhp on average...9% drive train loss

gen 3 510HP Vipers dynoed 440 rwhp on average...12% drive train loss

C6Z06 505HP dynos 455 rwhp on average....10% drive train loss

So at a 12% loss the 08 600HP Viper will dyno 528 rwhp ( about 30 more rwhp than it needs to pull a C6Z06)

at a 9% drive train loss the 08 600HP Viper will dyno 545 rwhp and give the Ford GT a very good run from 0-200 mph

cantdrv65

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Great bench racing calcs, but the C6Z06 beat the Ford GT and Viper in a very recent issue of motortrend. Weight matters....Add the fact that both will have 600hp and the vette wins easily in every category again.

The Viper will be more bang for the buck if the 600hp Z goes near 100k....I REALLY like that price.

DocT

I think I like this one a little better!

check it out!

http://www.planetbowtie.com/general_...v_1_000944.asp

mdhmi

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Looks like a pretty sweet ride. I'd be curious to see how the 08 Z compares..

allngn_c5

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I just read the new Motor Trend article about the 600 hp Viper. Bore was increased 1 mm to increase displacement to 8.4 liters. New ignition, new intake, better valvetrain allowing a 6400 rpm vs the old one set at 6000 r's. Not much else other then a revised air box. Just checked the article Re-Worked heads, larger valves, 23% more flow on intake, 12% more flow on the exhaust. A new dual disc clutch pack. Upgraded Venom Computer is faster and connects to OBD II. Lighter weight lifers, compression is increased from 9.6 to 1 to 10.2 to 1. 8.4 liter 600 hp 560 tq @ 5000 rpms. Lots of new little go fast innovations.

allngn_c5

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Sorry my last post is little unorganized. Tried to report the article from memory, and too lazy to retype. LOL. Hope the post helps.

pdd

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first the vipers dont make 500RWHP. were do you get this crap from. everything ive ever read had a bone stock 06 c6z smoke the 06 510hp vipers . even the shitty rags. since the viper is a fat pig, even with the new 600hp viper, i bet will run even with the feather light vette c6z. will see

~JOSHUA

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The SS Zo6 is forcasted to have 650+ hp- SS > Viper

The 600hp Viper still looks like a new dodge stratus.

If I sold my soul... the Blue Devil would get my cash.

Drewstein

Out of 8.4 liters I'm not impressed. I'd much rather buy the Z and throw a cam and headers in it and have a much faster, more luxurious, and better sounding ride for less. The Z can cover this number N/A no problem with less cubes and less weight.

allngn_c5

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How much power do you think the Viper would pick up if you threw a cam and headers on ?? The best thing about the Viper is the AMAZING abount of Tq it makes all the way from idle. Now if Dodge can put it on a diet it might beat the almighty C6 Zo6................