clutch problems
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Staging Lane
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From: ft benning, ga
clutch problems i just had a spec stage 3 clutch put in the other day. what im asking is this, should the clutch actuator keep going out? (its already been replaced twice.)
or do i need to find another dealership that knows how to put a clutch in? it just makes me so mad because for a couple of days it works fine, then all of a sudden the pedal stops feeling so stiff. also, is it the clutch that makes the car vibrate when i ease off of it? or is it possibly put in wrong? thanks guys
or do i need to find another dealership that knows how to put a clutch in? it just makes me so mad because for a couple of days it works fine, then all of a sudden the pedal stops feeling so stiff. also, is it the clutch that makes the car vibrate when i ease off of it? or is it possibly put in wrong? thanks guys
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Originally Posted by ls1aholic
i just had a spec stage 3 clutch put in the other day. what im asking is this, should the clutch actuator keep going out? (its already been replaced twice.)
or do i need to find another dealership that knows how to put a clutch in? it just makes me so mad because for a couple of days it works fine, then all of a sudden the pedal stops feeling so stiff. also, is it the clutch that makes the car vibrate when i ease off of it? or is it possibly put in wrong? thanks guys
or do i need to find another dealership that knows how to put a clutch in? it just makes me so mad because for a couple of days it works fine, then all of a sudden the pedal stops feeling so stiff. also, is it the clutch that makes the car vibrate when i ease off of it? or is it possibly put in wrong? thanks guys
In short though, no it shouldn't be going out on you, thats unacceptable.
The chattering when you take off is a result of using an unsprung/sprung uck'ed metalic disc, they all do it. Some worse then others.
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I just had a 3+ installed last week. I opted not to install the Mcloed master cylinder, due to pedal feel. I did opt to install an 01 and up slave cylinder, they are supposed to have larger openings. Sounds like you made need to use the Mcloed. I am curiuos on the outcome so I will keep a close eye on this post.
FWIW, I avoid the dealerships like the plague. Try to find a local mechanic that specializes in LS1's and hopefully Corvette's. I found my shop at the local track.
FWIW, I avoid the dealerships like the plague. Try to find a local mechanic that specializes in LS1's and hopefully Corvette's. I found my shop at the local track.
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Staging Lane
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From: ft benning, ga
thanks for the advice. its just so frustrating to not have the clutch feel i would like. its kinda spongy. not stiff at all and sometimes its hard to get into gear at high rpms.
I replaced my clutch with a ram stock replacement clutch I had to change my slave twice my pedal kept getting softer by the day.My problem was that one of my cluth slave bolts tread was completly gone.I thought the bolt was tight but I guess when I started driving and pressing the clutch pedal it would get loose and fall out.So my slave was slightly grinding on my input shaft causing a small crack thus leaking fliud.So by each passing day the pedal would get weaker making less preassure on each shift...
Originally Posted by ls1aholic
its kinda spongy. not stiff at all and sometimes its hard to get into gear at high rpms.
SPEC ******* SUCKS.
In my opinion and several others. Ditch the brand, regardless of failure or success with it, and buy any other brand. Now 3 south florida vettes were totaled due to their failures.
1.420rwhp 2000frc vette Stage 3
2.480rwhp 2005 C6 Stage 5
3.500rwhp 2006 C6 Z06 stage 3
They all failed and were installed by seperate well known places.
I don't recommend them.
In my opinion and several others. Ditch the brand, regardless of failure or success with it, and buy any other brand. Now 3 south florida vettes were totaled due to their failures.
1.420rwhp 2000frc vette Stage 3
2.480rwhp 2005 C6 Stage 5
3.500rwhp 2006 C6 Z06 stage 3
They all failed and were installed by seperate well known places.
I don't recommend them.
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My buddies Spec 3 clutch was totally gone in 2000 miles and that was professionally installed with proper breakin. He eventually went with a Mcleod twin disk setup, he never looked back. His car was only a full bolt on, G5x3 cammed with a 75shot of spray.
There is a few places around here that swear by Spec, other's that only put spec 3's in car that are only stock to slightly modded. Otherwise they put in the Mcleod twin disk and their adjustable master cylinder.
Sounds like you have aproblemwith either air in the system or you need to get what ROJO99 said. the adjustable master cylinder. btw, stay away from dealerships, they only know how to replace with stock OEM parts and will rip you off when it comes to performance parts and prices. Find a reputable performance shop that specializes in vettes.
There is a few places around here that swear by Spec, other's that only put spec 3's in car that are only stock to slightly modded. Otherwise they put in the Mcleod twin disk and their adjustable master cylinder.
Sounds like you have aproblemwith either air in the system or you need to get what ROJO99 said. the adjustable master cylinder. btw, stay away from dealerships, they only know how to replace with stock OEM parts and will rip you off when it comes to performance parts and prices. Find a reputable performance shop that specializes in vettes.
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i burned up my spec 3+ within 5k miles of VERY easy driving breaking in my drivetrain. no slipping, no excessive glazing at all.
they sent me a brand new one and it was out of spec (no pun intended
) and didnt work when i tried to install it so i sent it back, got another one and sold it.
bought a mcleod street twin and i have never been more happy with a clutch. thing holds killer power and doesnt slip. has lasted me almost 10k miles already with no slipping.
they sent me a brand new one and it was out of spec (no pun intended
) and didnt work when i tried to install it so i sent it back, got another one and sold it. bought a mcleod street twin and i have never been more happy with a clutch. thing holds killer power and doesnt slip. has lasted me almost 10k miles already with no slipping.
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Staging Lane
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From: ft benning, ga
thanks for all the input guys. ill start by bleeding out the system i guess. maybe the new slave cylinder. i will always swear by spec though. its the only clutch i have ever had all good experiences with.
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exactly why i do all my own work.
next time you should attempt it yourself...its not that difficult
http://www.cajundude.com/dopeinstall.doc
next time you should attempt it yourself...its not that difficult
http://www.cajundude.com/dopeinstall.doc
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I'd suggest you owners who drive these cars aggressively start looking after your clutch fluid like its key to everything the car does...cause it is.
Cliff Notes:
(1) Aggressive launch and repetitive high-rpm shifts produce heat that can exceed 400 degrees. Fresh brake fluid in the clutch hydraulics handles that for a short time and then degrades. Once degraded, the fluid in the slave, which sits in the caldron called the bell housing, boils. When that happens you get pedal woes.
(2) Simple fix. Always, always keep your clutch fluid fresh, with ZERO murkiness.
Longer version is here: Taking Care of Your Clutch
Ranger
Cliff Notes:
(1) Aggressive launch and repetitive high-rpm shifts produce heat that can exceed 400 degrees. Fresh brake fluid in the clutch hydraulics handles that for a short time and then degrades. Once degraded, the fluid in the slave, which sits in the caldron called the bell housing, boils. When that happens you get pedal woes.
(2) Simple fix. Always, always keep your clutch fluid fresh, with ZERO murkiness.
Longer version is here: Taking Care of Your Clutch
Ranger