Anybody have some experience with a Spec 3+ with the Aluminum pressure plate? Wondering if it is really worth the extra 200bucks? I cannot find any info on how much lighter it is from the regular spec 3+ clutch& pressure plate, anyone know? Thanks!!!

 

I had a Spec Stg 3 on my Cobra and it chattered a bit, otherwise it was ok. Although I have heard a lot of horror stories about the Spec clutches. I just went with a Mcleod twin for my FRC and a steel flywheel. Ive had some lightweight flywheels before that I didnt care for especially for drag racing. I would guess if it's lighter it would be 4-5lbs, but that would be a guess im sure someone will chime in.

 

Spec stg3 clutches chatter (the car shudders a bit) when you start out in 1st gear.

I'll never buy one...

 

I know the Fidanza flywheel is about 11-12 lbs lighter than the stock 24 lbs flywheel but I was wondering about the aluminum pressure plate option. That could be another 5-10 lbs maybe??? Anyone know the exact number???? The lightweight pressure plate is like having a lightweight DS. The spec 3+ is supposed to be little to no chatter because it has an improved design over the reguar spec 3. As for drag racing, I know several people still pulling 1.4x 60' with an aluminum flywheel so it's not as bad as you think.

 

I had a Spec Stage 3+ with the Aluminum Flywheel in my C6. The Chatter was not too bad. But I dumped the clutch at 3500 and BOOM. No more clutch.
I had made a few gas passes on it and then I did the Cam and Fast intake, kooks, and allot of other stuff. It did not last very long after that.

 

Well Ive had a aluminum flywheel before on my Evo (dont remember how much it weighed but it was pretty light) and I hated it. It would rev up so quick that it was hard to keep at a certain rpm when trying to launch. I'll never buy another.

 

guess I'll just get a regular pressure plate since no one really has experience with an aluminum one...

 

I Had A Spec 3 With Alum Pp In My 408 01 Zo6 Chattered And Shuddered Like Crazy Cold... Got Better When Hot But Not By Much

 

Do you know how much lighter it was than the regular pressure plate? How long did your clutch last?

 

anyone else with some experience? (good/bad)

 

Yes, they have cut two cars nearly in half(spec products).

highly suggest staying away from the product due to the lack of quality and LACK of proffesionalism(doubt I spelled that right) from them. They LIE through there teeth...actually, JEREMEY@ SPEC LIES THROUGH HIS TEETH.

Stay away.

They have ruined,...in my area code,..
1)FRC
2)C6 Z-51
3)C6 Z06

All three cars totaled.

Save yourself the time and aggrivation, and buy a different product. A NEW different product.

 

^ I remember the photos... luckily the shrapnel missed your legs.

I'll never put a spec clutch in my car...

 

Yup...I remember everyone that was there,...was looking at me...in shock....walking around me,...(i was like wtf are you doing)...they were checking to see if I was bleeding anywhere..since there where chunks of metal(aluminum from the bell housing and some iron from the PP) in my car.

To top it off, I was recently linked to a site by a member....here is EXACTLY WHAT JEREMY FROM SPEC WROTE....


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« Re: h one iWhich Clutch is better ACT or EXEDY (180sxfaktory) 7:13 AM 7/11/2007

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I think you all have the SRT guy pegged. As for the Corvette, let me provide a little back story. The car in questions was purchased as a flood vehicle (Hurricane Katrina). It sat submerged in salt water for 3 weeks. After being purchased it was cleaned up a bit and then put back on the road. The owner of the car is a GM tech that proceeded to beat the car to pieces...literally. When the transmission was removed the clutch was found to be corroded (like the rest of the car). Everything was rusted to the point of compromise.
At any rate, like so many folks, this gentleman only told part of the story and I wanted to make sure you guys knew the rest of it. Let me know if you have any further questions. Thanks!!!




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« Re: h one iWhich Clutch is better ACT or EXEDY (Meng1988) 2:38 PM 7/11/2007

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The pics make it pretty clear that the unit came apart...but the reason behind this is the corrosive effect of the salt water on the metal components of the assembly. I can further explain this if need be...but I think it is pretty obvious that salt water and metal don't mix. The entire assembly was rusted over. At any rate...that is the story. Let me know if you have any further questions.
As far as bashing, I don't take it personally. Everyone is entitled to an opinion...my only hope is to provide you all with information when needed. We sponsor these forums and have lots of dealers that play a part here. At the end of the day, I am an enthusiast just like each of you...so thanks for having me. Let me know if you need anything else.




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« Re: h one iWhich Clutch is better ACT or EXEDY (Jeremy@SPEC) 10:42 AM 7/29/2007

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Quote, originally posted by Jeremy@SPEC »
I think you all have the SRT guy pegged. As for the Corvette, let me provide a little back story. The car in questions was purchased as a flood vehicle (Hurricane Katrina). It sat submerged in salt water for 3 weeks. After being purchased it was cleaned up a bit and then put back on the road. The owner of the car is a GM tech that proceeded to beat the car to pieces...literally. When the transmission was removed the clutch was found to be corroded (like the rest of the car). Everything was rusted to the point of compromise.
At any rate, like so many folks, this gentleman only told part of the story and I wanted to make sure you guys knew the rest of it. Let me know if you have any further questions. Thanks!!!



Why Hello there Jeremy from SPEC. Yeah, i've got some guestions...since you just dug yourself a deep one by typing what ou did...

My name is Jamie, AKA V-SeriesTech...I am the FORMER OWNER of the WHITE CORVETTE.

I gotta ask you, where EXACTLY do you pull this information from?

The car, was mine, for some time. I didn't buy the car as a flood car, it was a MINT condition car that I bought from Morrison Motor Co. They only sell MINT CARS. http://www.morrisonmotorco.com if you'd like to check out what they have.

The clutch was a spec stage III. The car, at the time made 420rwhp on motor. It was fine....no problems, no concerns.

The car, since you think it was in a deluge,..was involved in a CRAZY rain storm street flood. That did happen. The Water, **FRESH WATER** was up to the center of the wheels, barely seeping inside the doors. barely.

The car could not be started, due to PCM/BCM failure. The car was fixed by myself, and other G<M tech's, as per my insurance company. Car was alive and well. A few hundred miles were put on it.

Then one morning, I started the car, let it idle at work for about 15 minutes, and then went out for a quick spin before I got busy with my workload(it was about 7:30 am.).

Went up the street, got on it. Made the U turn. Laid into it in first gear,..spun tires(street tires),...hit second....car skated accross,...never lifted,...shifted rapidly to THIRD gear...now WOT....on the throttle.....at the TOP OF THIRD GEAR AT AROUND 5700RPM's THE PRESSURE PLATE CAME APART AND WENT THROUGH MY HOOD, WINDSHEILD, ALL OF MY LINES/FUEL/HYDRAULIC/ETC, ETC. I was able to muscle the car, now moving at over 100 mph with no clutch pedal, nopower steering, no power brakes since my PCM lines were severed in half. The car was a BALL of smoke, from the interior back....back about 70 feet(think CHALLENGER spaceshuttle explosion)...(yeah, that bad)....and I cut to the left to try and make a turn at around60 mph,...and coasted to a stop useing my emergency brake.


I still have my FLYWHEEL, PRESSURE PLATE(in pieces), and clutch assembly from your company. I ASSURE YOU THAT IT IS NOT AT ALL OXIDIZED, rusted, or anything else that you'd like to pull out of your *** to place the blame on.

My dealings with your company, are far from over.

Oh, whats that, you guys only know about MY CAR?...lmao.

Well, guess what SPEC lovers, my good friend 2005 C6 Corvette, lol,..mint condition, bought a BRAND NEW SPEC stage 5, and had it installed at a local Corvette **GM** dealership.

Roughly 1000 miles later, on the street one night,...he was doing a pass,....first gear, no problem, second gear, no problem,...third gear, at ROUGHLY 5500RPM's....the piece of **** pressure plate CAME APART and ripped the car in half, just like mine, except this one caught fire, and we were able to put it out with swamp water. The car, is now gone and totalled.

Thats my friends car,...and I am MORE THEN PISSED OFF ABOUT THAT. Again, your company hasn't heard the last of this situation,...as I still POSSES the entire clutch assembly for that car as well. Your FAILED PRODUCT.

Oh wait,...lmao(not funny)...you guys want more? Are you ready Jeremy?

How about the 2006/07 BLACK C6 Z06 that JUST BLEW UP A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO? It's a local car, at a local shop...your company is WELL AWARE of it, cause SPEC, General Motors, Allstate, and the shops insurance company are ALL INVOLVED, and YOUR COMPANY ALREADY DEEMED IT WAS NOT INSTALLER ERROR.

Therefore,..your guys product, just ri=uined ANOTHER CORVETTE IN MY AREA CODE.

I am in contact with the owner of the speed shop, and I in contact of the owner of the black Z06, and I am in contact with my friend and his 05 corvette,...and obviously myself. We have ALL OF THE FAILED PRODUCTS,...all of them. I'm sure you'll have your chance to inspect them as well at some point. I also have all the sheared bolts,... and pictures to boot.

So you all know, I have recieved MULTIPLE PM'S FROM OTHER TECH members, saying they have had identical problems.

Jeremy from spec, your lucky nobody got there legs cut off. And your lucky that these Y-body cars(corvettes) have a frame rail that runs along the inside of the car. My frame rails were indented over two inches, on each side. If they were not there to stop the inpact from your FLYING pressure plate, i am sure my leg or legs would be gone.


Your product is a failure, your parts were all installed by CERTIFIED Technicians, that do this stuff every single day.

Since you should know, your company has cost us, all of us, alot of money, and alot of lost time. I personally did my best to fix my friends black C6, which I did,...at his expense, and my free labor. COst the kid over 11,000 in MY COST(discounted) and my FREE LABOR.

I will never stop with you people,...and I am saving/printing your post, regarding my "KATRINA CAR"

lol.

You guys,...are amazing. In all honesty, how do you do it man? Do you sleep well at night knowing that your product is likely to fail in any RANDOM car across the US? Honestly.

anyways,...to the board members here, and across the world,..I strongly recommend you STAY AWAY FROM THE SPEC PRODUCT!!!!!!!! I URGE YOU NOT TO BUY THEM. Tell your friends, and tell your worse enemies. This is like an EXPLOSION GOING OFF IN YOUR CAR AT TIME OF FAILURE.

Since our problems, I have removed for FREE, any and all SPEC PRODUCTS that I have installed in customers cars, at MY OWN COST/EXPENSE.

Now, if YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS JERMEY, feel free.

As far as the SUBMERGED FOR 3 WEEKS in SALTWATER...that was classic. You should write GOSSIP colums man. Honestly. I like the little touch that it was "cleaned up a bit, and put on the street"

As far as "me" personally beating on my car,..thats correct. I beat the **** out of all of my cars. It's my choice, it's my car, my life. I maintain, and build up my car, as well as MULTIPLE CUSTOMERs cars. I have ZERO FAILURES. ZERO.

...and, aren't your clutchs supposed to be able to handle,..."hard driving"....I mean,...are you serious? Have you ever read your advertisements?

Curious to your response, and what other fabrications of my life and story you could come up with in your head.

J




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Sorry for the rant but,...people gotta know...and I gotta tell you....reading his post again...only ENRAGES me.

Stupid mother ******. My car NEVER saw saltwater. Let alone, sat for three weeks.

 

Lol, well reading that has me sold. I'll never buy a Spec product ever again.

 

oh wow!!!!!!!!!!

 

Now I'm scared to death about my Spec 3+ I just bought for my 600 rwhp vette...

 

Yep, my buddy had a Spec 3+ in his cammed sprayed t/a and his lasted only 2500 miles and one trip to the track. Nothing but JUNK!!!

spend a little more money and get the Texralia oz700 clutch for your car.

MATTDZ28, with that much power get the top dog, Mcleod twin disk with the adjustable master cylinder. That spec 3 will by gone very fast.

 

+ 1, thats what I just got for my FRC