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Old Jul 5, 2008 | 10:35 AM
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That **** looks good Jamie. You seemed to have figured out how to wedge everything into place all the while making it look straight out of the factory !!

I too am a bit concerned with your power steering resevoir location, but I am sure you gave its location plenty of thought. With the power steering fluid cooler she might be ok.

I have to repeat myself, the install looks great. Now lets get some numbers outta that bitch...........................
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Working on it guys.

The tank for the power steering went there due to the lack of room to put it anywhere else,... also due to the fact that it needs to be mounted HIGHER then the pump. It should see little heat in the location that I have it. For now, it will work and allow me to put some miles on the car. At some point, I will buy a custom, thinner/taller tank that'll fit somewhere near the factory location was.

Like I said, for now it'll work. My biggest concern is trying to keep my belt from wanting to ride off. Not soo sure about my alternator bracket. As I believe thats the culprit. That, and I have gotta figure out why it's not chraging.

Those two things, are the biggest concern,.....the cosmetic stuff can wait till later, and miles have been put on the car. I believe my smoe issues have been solved with the thicker weight of oil but, without putting more miles on it, I don't know.

Keep you guys posted,....
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Good luck on the smoking issue. Hope its nothing.
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Working on it guys.

The tank for the power steering went there due to the lack of room to put it anywhere else,... also due to the fact that it needs to be mounted HIGHER then the pump. It should see little heat in the location that I have it. For now, it will work and allow me to put some miles on the car. At some point, I will buy a custom, thinner/taller tank that'll fit somewhere near the factory location was.

Like I said, for now it'll work. My biggest concern is trying to keep my belt from wanting to ride off. Not soo sure about my alternator bracket. As I believe thats the culprit. That, and I have gotta figure out why it's not chraging.

Those two things, are the biggest concern,.....the cosmetic stuff can wait till later, and miles have been put on the car. I believe my smoe issues have been solved with the thicker weight of oil but, without putting more miles on it, I don't know.

Keep you guys posted,....
check the wiring coming from the starter solenoid to the ALT. Had the same problem putting my car back together. looking real good, I admire your dedication, keep it up.
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Very nice. Your PTK is what I plan on doing this winter. It's way to hot to work in the garage when it's 114 outside. Where did you find a PTK kit. Been looking at the ebay clone but not ready yet to pull the trigger. Keep us posted as to your progress. Also, polt a pic of the alternatere installed.
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Good luck on the smoking issue. Hope its nothing.
Thanks but,...I think it is one.(still smokes). Although I haven't driven it yet,..it does at idle.

I'll worry about that last.

I'll keep you posted on that bud.
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Thanks man, I talked to Nick Yoskin(seemingly the most knowledgable PTK person that I have heard of) this evening for a bit on about my car, and some issues with it. He told me one of my wires where incorrect, so, tomorrow i'll rewire that, and see if my chareing situation changes,..i'm sure it will based on his insight. Big thanks to that man. Also, while I was trying to get my car to "burp"....since it was getting up to 250degree's@ idle,......I ended up having my serpentine belt come apart. Unbelieveable. I was off two ribs(somehow the belt walked off 2 ribs on the power steering pulley, and the crank pulley). I figurerd i'd let it ride on those two ribs like that for 5 mintues but, the belt thought otherwise, and came apart.

Sucks. I'm soo sick of spending 40 bucks on belts,....since my blower purchase last year, I think I have been through and tried 20 belts. Not to mention the guess work that went into fitting a belt for the current setup. A little discouraging to say the very least. Actually, very. As a result,..i've been narking at my girlfirned for the oast hours for no real good reason. ***** got me in a pissy mood.

Anyways,...her and I are cool(choked her).... went to go and fire up the car again, with the 2 ribs missing at the belt, and the car refused to fire. I got some random codes(weird,..reduced engine power, etc). Soo, tomorrow,...i'll throw another tune in the car, start fresh,...re-wire my alternator, and see if I can get my cooling system to work. At the moment, it's not(burping, therefore, attempting to overheat).

Oh, yeah, also my alternator bracket, appears to be sagging. Looking at nick's bracket, I can see I am missing an outrigger if you will, that bolts to the front, upper portion of the cylinder head. I have no other choice but to try and make this piece from sctratch.....since nothing is available.

I just love the guess work(not really). Thankfully, about 3-5(probably more but thats what you'd think when trying to get answers about this setup).


sighhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh........ i guess all in all, it's been a long day, i'm tired of spending money, tired of aggrivation, tired of my nagging *** girlfriend.....tired of this bastard ***** car. Sometimes, I hate to say it, you just wish you could throw it on someone else and say, here ******, fix it.

turns out, i'm that ******. I have no choice but to snap out of the boo hoo's, be a man, and fix my ****(lol....i'm tryin to be tough dammit).

Anyways,......so yes, here is the list the to do's:

1)buy my 1 billionth belt(gotta wait to payday)(yes, i'm broke)
2)re-wire my alternator(which means remove fuelrail).
3)fix/fab up a bracket for my alternator, to help with the twisting load from the tension of the belt(sucks ***, cause I gotta make something)
4)left turbo,..smoking at idle.
5)fix my gages(they keep blowing fuses)
6)get my two NACA ducts from my buddy, so ican cut my hood and insert them in.
7)slit my wrists,...cause I know theres gonna be more stuff to do.

I am dedicated, and I thank you for noticing that but,...it's starting to get to me. Tired of spending money,...and for the past 5 months, I have worked on the car every single weekend....every weekend. Spend hundreds on fuel alone(probably closer to the thousands now)....and still,...I haven't completed the task. Now I have little things that keep popping up,...that shouldn't be popping up. This is the reason alone, why I don't get excited about ****(vacations, new cars) until I have it or it's done,...or I am there. Only then do I get excited,...cause things can always, or should I say, do always go wrong, big or small. This is many things,..as small and girlie as they may seem, is going to be a pain in the *** to get right. It's not like you can just go out and by something and make it right,....

Ha, besides that, i can only work on the car after hours, which means I have a window from 5:30-8:30pm to work on the car. And at the end of the day , after working on problem cars ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL DAY long,...it kinda sucks to have to go and work on YOUR own multiple problem car. Ya know what I mean?



Anyways, again, sorry for the sorrow and the little crybaby session,...like I said, it's been a long day. I'm sure tomorrow will be a better day, and i'll maybe climb one more step,....either that,...i'll take a few more backwards.

kepp you ladies and gents posted, don't worry, i'm not giving up. I'm gonna go play some forza or call of duty right now,.... blowing **** up always makes me feel better.

Peace out. And thanks "always in boost".... I do appreciate it.

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Originally Posted by Donsz
Very nice. Your PTK is what I plan on doing this winter. It's way to hot to work in the garage when it's 114 outside. Where did you find a PTK kit. Been looking at the ebay clone but not ready yet to pull the trigger. Keep us posted as to your progress. Also, polt a pic of the alternatere installed.


hey man. I would highly recommend starting to wrap up, or relocate ANY AND ALL of your water hoses, or electrical componets, as they are gonna see some SERIOUS HEAT. Seriously, start getting everything preped, and ready to go.

I'd move battery to the trunk, etc, alter radiator cradle/hoses, figure out what your gonna do about the alternator, find a bracket, or have one made. Your probably better offf having a custom bracket made. I don't know if the Ebay kit comes with it but,..make sure it's a sturdy bracket,...consider a AFTERMARKET HOOD,...not needed, as I at the moment, still run a stock hood but, I will insert NACA ducts above the air filters(I do not know yet of heat, and what it will do to the stock hood, I recommend some silver/gold heat wrap. I still need to get some cash together and buys some sheets of that. I have 250 ft of header wrap, wrapping the headers, and entire downpipe sections, and custom midpipes, which stop right before my trans. So, conisder that.

What else....... you could buy your soon to be homemade vaccum lines from a local hardware store,...bring the size hose you need(or just remove your vaccum line off you intake and bring it in) so you can make all the fittings. Probably cost 8 bucks, total.



I bought my kit used, from a forum member. I'd recommend him again for future purchases but, he had one, and it was installed on his personal car. From what I have read/heard, there isn't much around for sale. I have no idea aboutthe ebay kit but, i'd honestly love to know/see a car that has it, and runs well with it. That'd be cool. If you purchase one, I wsh you the very best.

I think this kit is wicked, I really do. I can't wait to see it perform, regardless of platform, if you look at the turbo manifold setup/layout, and compair it with other RACE CARS or CUSTOM built twin turbo kits, you'd probably agree that it's damm near identical to all the top dollar custom kits for ANY style of car with a race inspired twin turbo application.

That said,...I would honestly like to look into a SINGLE TURBO setup, like the one the "crazy chris" has on his FRC vette. I say that cause i am thinking of HEAT issues. now, I have no experience other then what I have posted, which is merely "idle" style stuff, or that one time that I did have a little ride up the street and back(1 mile round trip if that). i am just saying, alot of time has been invested into this kit,...all the pipeing, etc. And there are, other options,....thats all. I think I will be very happy with my setup when it's done,. and headache free,....and i'd recommend it to someone that feels they have the skill and time but, just explore all options, and be prepared for trial and errors.

If you have any questions, or need help, or whatever, give me a shout here, on this page, or send me a pm anytime. It's all good. By that time, i'll be a pro at this. Either that, it'll be big cubes and a nitrous monster.

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Old Jul 7, 2008 | 09:46 PM
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hang in there man, hope you have a daily driver.
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Don't go slitting your wrists just yet J Dawg. You are going to need your hands to finish the project. What do you think is causing the car to smoke ?? Again stay at it man.
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Originally Posted by ♠Nightmare♠
hang in there man, hope you have a daily driver.
Yeah i'll be fine bro. Just aggrivating sometimes. I have a 94 STS riddled with problems but, it has ac, limo tint, and only breaks everyother week soo, i'm fine with the driver.

The vette:

I ended up, that next day, on my lunch break making a bracket, which i'd say is 90% done. I really don't have the cash to invest in the car this week, so I am taking a break. Besides that, it's like 200 degree's in our shop all day, plus at the end of the day, sun is shining right through my bay doors,...which makes me wanna dip outta work asap.

I'm doing a nitrous kit on a C6 for some extra cash this weekend,....i'll continue the project after that.
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Originally Posted by allngn_c5
Don't go slitting your wrists just yet J Dawg. You are going to need your hands to finish the project. What do you think is causing the car to smoke ?? Again stay at it man.


I have my ideas but, I need to drive the car first to see how much it smokes, if it'll clear up, etc.
Old Jul 9, 2008 | 06:36 PM
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Well I have an extreme case of the vette blues. When I was 8 I helped restore the family vette. 72 with a 383 stroker, and a 4 speed. Almost 20 years later I am still head over heels for vette's. Right now in my current situation I can not afford one. I have been sticking to Fbody's and fox stangs for years now and still dream about one day owning the vette of my dreams.

I know how bad I want a vette and I know much I can not afford it at this moment. This has always made me stay clear of this forum, and always kept me from registering and reading CF. So I have been in here the last 2 days reading like crazy and not helping my sick for vette addiction. I came across this thread a few hours ago and read all 10 pages word by word, and drooled pic by pic. By page 8 I had my fingers so far crossed that I was going to read up to a happy ending and see some sweet pics/video's it's not even funny. In a way I was let down, but in all reality happy I can give you some feedback before it is done. Maybe give you some motivation.

From the start that alternator bracket was a pain in the ***. Months later for you, and minutes later for me here, it is biting you in the ***. Glad you are making a new one and getting that all worked out. I love your detailed post, the only 2 pics left of your woman, display of passion, relentless dedication, and shop full of cool cars. It is definitely cool for someone like me who can't quite get anything I want yet (but like your self I will drag and fight until the day I have it) to be able to watch someone with similar passion build the car of their dreams. Congrats on that man!

I had a situation with a car crash a few months back that your story reminded me of. I was on work in Philly driving the company truck from the job site to the hotel. Worked real late. It was like 11pm and I was totally exhausted. The trailer decided it didn't like us anymore and wanted to part ways. I came unhitched, went under the truck, flipped and the sleeping crew over, and we all went tumbling down the highway. None of us got seriously hurt, but it sure did make the grass greener the next day. Scary **** man!!!


I see you talking abou that blue vette a lot and mentioning video's. Got any links to the video's? That thing sounds like a beast.


Good luck on the rest of the build and I too hope the smoke is nothing major. I'll be here waiting for you to finish it up! I want video's of it! Preferably with your old lady in them too haha, but for real, I want to see the car go!!!!!
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Is this still a stock motor?

If so, what the hell was the point of the swap? That procharger had more than enough muscle to send your engine right through the hood if you wanted. You cant turn the wick up on this thing, you'll insta-fry the motor. I dont get the point of all the hassle to ditch 600 supercharged hp, to make 600 turbocharged hp with a little more torque.
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Is this still a stock motor?

If so, what the hell was the point of the swap? That procharger had more than enough muscle to send your engine right through the hood if you wanted. You cant turn the wick up on this thing, you'll insta-fry the motor. I dont get the point of all the hassle to ditch 600 supercharged hp, to make 600 turbocharged hp with a little more torque.
I would think that he did because turbos generally have more HP and TQ under the curve than a centrifigal SC.
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Sure, but between 5-6.6k which is where you typically see most action, youre really splitting hairs when it comes to power under the curve.
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Sure, but between 5-6.6k which is where you typically see most action, youre really splitting hairs when it comes to power under the curve.
Most turbos start to come on around 3K and pull like a freight train.

Another advantage of turbos is to have multiple boost settings (low / High) that most centrifigals can't do because they lack a waste gate.

You also have variable boost controllers that can be controlled by gears, etc to help get the power down instead of spinning your wheels.
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Most turbos start to come on around 3K and pull like a freight train.
Depends on the setup. And besides, I was referring to power under the curve in full throttle/race conditions, where you will never end up at 3k.

Another advantage of turbos is to have multiple boost settings (low / High) that most centrifigals can't do because they lack a waste gate.

You also have variable boost controllers that can be controlled by gears, etc to help get the power down instead of spinning your wheels.
Right, except that he cant HAVE a high boost setting at this stage unless he wants to grenade the motor? Thus rendering the EBC pointless?
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Originally Posted by 508Stroker
Well I have an extreme case of the vette blues. When I was 8 I helped restore the family vette. 72 with a 383 stroker, and a 4 speed. Almost 20 years later I am still head over heels for vette's. Right now in my current situation I can not afford one. I have been sticking to Fbody's and fox stangs for years now and still dream about one day owning the vette of my dreams.

I know how bad I want a vette and I know much I can not afford it at this moment. This has always made me stay clear of this forum, and always kept me from registering and reading CF. So I have been in here the last 2 days reading like crazy and not helping my sick for vette addiction. I came across this thread a few hours ago and read all 10 pages word by word, and drooled pic by pic. By page 8 I had my fingers so far crossed that I was going to read up to a happy ending and see some sweet pics/video's it's not even funny. In a way I was let down, but in all reality happy I can give you some feedback before it is done. Maybe give you some motivation.

From the start that alternator bracket was a pain in the ***. Months later for you, and minutes later for me here, it is biting you in the ***. Glad you are making a new one and getting that all worked out. I love your detailed post, the only 2 pics left of your woman, display of passion, relentless dedication, and shop full of cool cars. It is definitely cool for someone like me who can't quite get anything I want yet (but like your self I will drag and fight until the day I have it) to be able to watch someone with similar passion build the car of their dreams. Congrats on that man!

I had a situation with a car crash a few months back that your story reminded me of. I was on work in Philly driving the company truck from the job site to the hotel. Worked real late. It was like 11pm and I was totally exhausted. The trailer decided it didn't like us anymore and wanted to part ways. I came unhitched, went under the truck, flipped and the sleeping crew over, and we all went tumbling down the highway. None of us got seriously hurt, but it sure did make the grass greener the next day. Scary **** man!!!


I see you talking abou that blue vette a lot and mentioning video's. Got any links to the video's? That thing sounds like a beast.


Good luck on the rest of the build and I too hope the smoke is nothing major. I'll be here waiting for you to finish it up! I want video's of it! Preferably with your old lady in them too haha, but for real, I want to see the car go!!!!!


Wow man. I can tell you can feel where i'm coming from. I appreciate you read all those pages like that. Posts like this,...are encouraging enough for me to wake up out of my "cryin"....and get back to wrenching. My bad for the let down man,,...I hope this is just the midway part of the story,...maybe the slight incline,....before the big huge nasty decline. I'm hoping so. One way or the other, i'll get there. If it takes a little longer, so be it.

I too, once dreamed of owning a vette,...for most of my life. Never really thought i'd own one to be honest. Still find it kinda funny,...me...owning a vette. Would of never believed it ten years ago. So,..if I can get vette,...i'm sure alot of people could man. This is my second(1st one totaled)...and I picked it up for ten grand less almost then my first, and it's the exact same car. 14,000 is what I paid for it. It had no damage, other then bumper dings. Alot of time went into making it how it is but,..it's do-able. It'll happen.

Your accident story is errie bro. Reading it, I was trying to put myself into that senerio,...how i'd wake up. Was it on the first roll,..when it was over,..etc. Crazy. Happy to hear your all alive and well. Things happen soo quickly,...makes you really appreciate all thie things in life,...that we normally don't soo much think about. Been trying to see my aging grandparents alot for example,....getting old. Never know what tomorrow will be ya know?..... crazy times these days are.

I saw the "picture girl " today. lol. crazy chic,...and i'll leave it at that,...lol.

I'll try and get some shitup,...and i'll try and make sure we incorporate something vagina based.

Again, thanks for reading all my bullshit bro....I wish you the best.

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Depends on the setup. And besides, I was referring to power under the curve in full throttle/race conditions, where you will never end up at 3k.



Right, except that he cant HAVE a high boost setting at this stage unless he wants to grenade the motor? Thus rendering the EBC pointless?
I don't know, there are some guys running around with 12 pds of boost onstock motors, personally I think they are crazy.

Centrifigal power curve is linear and controlled more by RPM whereas turbos hit the magic spool spot and jump up like a skyscrapper.



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