Quickest Stock Internal M6 LS1?

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Old 03-28-2012, 09:39 PM
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His problem is keeping it in first lol.
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Originally Posted by spook99maro
His problem is keeping it in first lol.
thats only happen one time robby at least I can hit second gear without bouncing it off the rev limiter lol
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Lol just gotta give u some **** man. that 2nd problem is fixed now.
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Originally Posted by fly pantera
ia hvnt done any testing but i do read alot on various forums and the more experience guys that drive manuals prefer stiffwall slicks over regular slicks.almost all choose slicks over et streets,also hoosiers seem to be stickier and lighter
Ive read that about the hoosiers also, i started to buy a set but wanted to go with what i knew worked for me. Did not want to have problems at the first race this year but that happened anyway lol.
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Bought me a valve spring pressure tester and seen how bad my springs are. All the exhaust springs are good but the intake springs range from 58-65 on the seat to 200-207 open. Hope this is causing my problem.

What do you guys think if i put a new set of stock springs in, would you guys still consider that stock internal. I need new rings or a piston too lol won't be changing that tho.
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well sweiser has ls6 valve spring in his motor so if its ok for him to do it and still be a bolt on car then I think its ok to do it
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I ran the MT ET Drag 28 x 10.5's.... One of the reasons I think my shitbox ran so well is because of the tire/gear combo. When you run the taller tire, there is more sidewall to absorb the initial hit, the sidewall wrinkles and dampens the shock to tread / track.

When I tried the 28" tall tires the first time, I did it with 4.10 gears... And every time I launched the RPM would drop too low and it would bog badly. I tried 4.30's and it got better, but just wasnt solved. 4.56's and the shock to the tires was less, it would bite, and the RPM's wouldnt drop into bog.

After about 20-25 runs the sidewall would "loosen" up, and wrinkled too easy, causing them to absorb less shock which got transfered to the track resulting in spin.
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Anyone else tried a vic jr. or am I the first? Getting ready to build a boosted 370 so threw the vic on for now. If you have was it better or worse for ur et
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Originally Posted by black and pink z28
well sweiser has ls6 valve spring in his motor so if its ok for him to do it and still be a bolt on car then I think its ok to do it
Thats not quite stock internal. Is that why he's not on the list? Was wondering about that.
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Idk if thats the reason or not but his hot rod mag feature definately states ls6 valve springs where installed.
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Originally Posted by spook99maro
Idk if thats the reason or not but his hot rod mag feature definately states ls6 valve springs where installed.
Yup, I've got LS6 springs and valves. I bent all the stock intake valves last summer and had a set of 243's that I robbed the stuff off of. I'm not on the list because I've never submitted a time slip or even posted in that thread. I just have it in my signature.
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This whole debate about stock stuff. LS6 springs are stock. Just didnt come from the factory in the ls1. Stock parts is stock parts. Right?
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Originally Posted by Zmg00camaross
This whole debate about stock stuff. LS6 springs are stock. Just didnt come from the factory in the ls1. Stock parts is stock parts. Right?
I think that's their point. Since they didn't come stock on an ls1, then it technically doesn't count as "stock internal". If you were gonna let anything made by GM count, then you could use the 243 heads too and have it count.
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Originally Posted by SWeiser31
I think that's their point. Since they didn't come stock on an ls1, then it technically doesn't count as "stock internal". If you were gonna let anything made by GM count, then you could use the 243 heads too and have it count.
Ok I guess. But this is valvesprings lol. But either way you guys can fly with stock parts.
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Originally Posted by Zmg00camaross
Ok I guess. But this is valvesprings lol. But either way you guys can fly with stock parts.
Definitely not disagreeing with ya. I didn't see any performance gain from it.
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i believe there was a red z28 from tx that is a member here,he was gutted and had ls6 springs and he was not allowed to be on the list,if i remember right he was trapping 121
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Originally Posted by SWeiser31
I think that's their point. Since they didn't come stock on an ls1, then it technically doesn't count as "stock internal". If you were gonna let anything made by GM count, then you could use the 243 heads too and have it count.
Yeah the idea is completely stock, original parts. But I don't agree with the spring thing either. With cars this old you should at least be able to get some fresh springs when you run them this hard. Either way, you've got one of the fastest si M6's, different springs alone aren't going to change that.
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I ordered a new set of stock springs, after seeing one sit at 58 pounds on the seat makes me worry alot. I guess the only reason i have not slamed a valve into a piston is the fact that its a stock cam.

I agree with you guys on the springs, i do think it should stay with the stock spring specs but i don't think an ls6 spring or anything with more pressure would make more power at all, if anything i would think more pressure would make a little less power.
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Originally Posted by ATwelveSec02Z28
I ran the MT ET Drag 28 x 10.5's.... One of the reasons I think my shitbox ran so well is because of the tire/gear combo. When you run the taller tire, there is more sidewall to absorb the initial hit, the sidewall wrinkles and dampens the shock to tread / track.

When I tried the 28" tall tires the first time, I did it with 4.10 gears... And every time I launched the RPM would drop too low and it would bog badly. I tried 4.30's and it got better, but just wasnt solved. 4.56's and the shock to the tires was less, it would bite, and the RPM's wouldnt drop into bog.

After about 20-25 runs the sidewall would "loosen" up, and wrinkled too easy, causing them to absorb less shock which got transfered to the track resulting in spin.
I had the bogging problem with the 26 inch tall tires and 4.10's, mine would drop to around 3000 rpm but i was still 60 ft ing in the mid to low 1.6's. I switched to a gto t56 and completely got rid of the bogging problem but i was still 60 ft ing in the mid to low 1.6's.
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The 28's and 4.56 gears are the perfect combo for my car. Shift at 6 and trap at 6200. It still bogs, but the 2.66 low gear sucks for launching. When the tranny breaks, something with at least a 2.97 low will go in.


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