Quest for a 9 second 346 6 speed with nitrous continues...

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Old 06-18-2005, 10:08 AM
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Default Quest for a 9 second 346 6 speed with nitrous continues...

Last night we headed down to MIR for a street car race. Sam and I met up with Bruce Row and a couple of other F-body/Y body guys to take advantage of the night. The air was crisp but the track prep was minimal. There was about 8 million imports and a handful of 9 second trailer queens. I was soo confident that my car was going to run the big number I failed to check the little things. First run, lined up and did a nice burnout. You could tell that there was zero track prep as the car glided across the launch pad. If I had walked the track like I normally do I would have chosen a different tire pressure. Lined up the the car in the best groove and staged. Lights came down and I took a deep breath almost sure this was going to be the run. Lights dropped, revs creeped up to 6000, engine is screaming. Clutch slips out and the nitrous comes on. The car spun violently to about 300', 2nd gear came around very quickly. 60' 1.55(normally 1.40) Run the gear out and tried shift to 3rd and had a brain fart. Missed 3rd gear big time. Finally got the tranny into 3rd and ran it out. 10.3 @ 135. We went back to the pits to take a peek at the data acquisition because the car felt really soft. The timing was only 22 degrees where I normally run 26-28 and the air to fuel was 10.0:1 on the big end.

We made a tire pressure change and removed 10% of fuel and waited for the next round. There was still questions about why the car was soo rich but we lined the car up again. Did a decent sized burnout to heat up the M/T. Lined up in the groove and staged again. Lights came down and slipped the clutch out @ 6200 on the spray. Tires spun again to a 1.49 60'. Hit the gears and ran it out. 2nd gear went quick and once it was in 3rd I noticed it was surging slightly. Hit 4th and still surging. 10.2 @ 135. We get back to the pits and pull the data acquisition soft ware up to see the air to fuel was still 10.1-9.9. I hit the purge to check the nitrous lines to see that the bottle was basically empty. Stupid me forgot to fill the bottle. Oh well, I guess it will have to wait until next week. See you guys soon.
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Get that DAMN 60' to sub 1.4 & thats it..NINEs

keep us updated man !!

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Old 06-18-2005, 10:24 AM
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I'm with ya. Usually my 60s are 1.40 to 1.41.
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i know you forgot to RE-Fill your bottle but Don't forget the video next week
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Nice! No doubt deep single digits once that nice fall air gets here
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damn man sounds like a frustrating time, good luck next time out.
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I know the pain. 9's are NOT as easy as some people believe. Everything has to be almost perfect. Good luck next week.

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Thanks guys! Going 9s in a 346 C5 with only a 150 shot has proven to be somewhat of a challenge. Looking over the logs friday I was shifting @ 7700 RPM's and looking at the A/F and comparing it to other runs where the bottle had 4-5 passes on it, its got alot to pickup.
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7700 WOW thats nice for a hydralic roller
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You'll get there Phil. Hate to say it but the best thing about last night was the bikini contest. Damn, 500 cars on a Friday night, everbody was lucky to get 2 passes. Not sure if you get another cool night like that, until this fall.

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talk to Brian at TEA - he has done it.
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I have talked to Brian numerous times about my setup. He orginally built my heads. There is no comparison in our setups. Apples and oranges
Auto to 6 speed
250 shot to 150 shot
28" tire to 26" tire
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Originally Posted by Phil99vette
Thanks guys! Going 9s in a 346 C5 with only a 150 shot has proven to be somewhat of a challenge. Looking over the logs friday I was shifting @ 7700 RPM's and looking at the A/F and comparing it to other runs where the bottle had 4-5 passes on it, its got alot to pickup.
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Man I have to get down there and see this thing


Any chance your going to make it to any of the EFA events at MIR this year?


I'm have the same trouble getting into the 9's with the 150 shot

Sweet car
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Man, why don't you guys bump your 150's up a tad bit, and cross into the 9's. I sure wish I had this problem, as I am still trying to get out of the 11's.
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Wayne,
Getting off of work is tough but I am gonna try my best. Bruce was telling me about your car yesterday, sounds pretty sick. My last pass had less than 2lbs of nitrous in the bottle!
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Phil. How are you getting your car to rev to 7700 rpm's? On mine, 6900 is about the max. To ensure to finish the 1/4 without bouncing off the rev limiter, I'm having to step down to 3.73 (from 4.30) on 30" Hoosiers - setting up for the 200 or 250 shot. Is you engine a forged bottom-end?

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Keep with it Phill ! Just check your bottle next time. 7700 with a hyd,somebody has done his homework.

Yea 9's in a 6-speed isn't as easy as everybody thinks.
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nitrous like the rpm if you cna get it up there. Good job with it Phil!

Still same cam? Im surprised it wants to pull to 7700 if so



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