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Old Sep 17, 2006 | 05:04 PM
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Took my car to the track yesterday and got a 7.43 @ 97 mph with a 1.73 60 ft. on a 100 shot & ET streets. I was leaving the line at around 4000 rpm. I didnt want to go any higher since my car still has the 10 bolt. The car bogged off the line pretty bad. It was around 90 degrees here yesterday. My car is currently a cam only with 3.73 gears, pacesetter LT's ported throttle body & MAF. oh yeah 100 shot. I'm thinking a cut out, ASP, 410's, and more nitrous before the end of this year. Last year I ran my car with the same set up with a B1 cam instead of the MS4 in 50 degree weather and the car went 7.61 @ 92 with a 1.61 60 ft. I am VERY pleased with the power improvment with the MS4. Here is a video of a couple of runs I made during the day.

http://s55.photobucket.com/albums/g1...t=411video.flv

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Old Sep 17, 2006 | 05:44 PM
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very nice! thats a whole second off my 1/8th... dam i cant wait to get my ms4 in! any dyno numbers? or idle vids?
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Old Sep 17, 2006 | 07:12 PM
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very nice! thats a whole second off my 1/8th... dam i cant wait to get my ms4 in! any dyno numbers? or idle vids?
I haven't had the car on a dyno since the swap. As for the idle vid I don't have one but if you watch the video I posted above you can hear my car at idle in the back ground as the white 02 Mustang is making a pass.
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What did the car run on the motor?
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Old Sep 17, 2006 | 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris81
What did the car run on the motor?
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Old Sep 17, 2006 | 09:41 PM
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What did the car run on the motor?
I only made 1 pass without nitrous. 8.01 @ 90 mph with a very poor 1.9 60 ft. The car fell flat on its face on the no nitrous run, I definitely need more gear with the new cam. I raced a 2000 SS with a Procharger and he was running 7.40-7.50 @ 90 mph all day. My cam only car had the same MPH as the procharged car. Like I said I'm very pleased with the MS4 results and would recommend it to anyone looking for a comparable camshaft.
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If you watch the second video of my car it ran a 7.54 @ 93 with missing 3rd gear. So the car could have possibly gone 7.20s-7.30s on that pass if I wasnt such a non driving fool.
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dude i run 7.7x and trap 87-88 with the stock heads and cam in an automatic...is that thing tuned properly?
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dude i run 7.7x and trap 87-88 with the stock heads and cam in an automatic...is that thing tuned properly?
It was 90 degrees when I ran and like I said the car fell flat on its face when I took off, not enough gear or launch RPM. I kindof short shifted that run also. I too got decent times from my car before either cam or headers but it was cold as **** outside. On radials it made one 8.20 @ 90 pass. As for the tune it's a mail order from PCM's for less.
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Originally Posted by s346k
dude i run 7.7x and trap 87-88 with the stock heads and cam in an automatic...is that thing tuned properly?
Did you have exhaust, gears, converter? I was rowing my own gears.
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yes, all of the above. but the trap is what gets me. an ms4 cammed stick car should REALLY out-trap me, et just shows how well the car is set up.

in 94* weather with the humidity @ 100+% the car still ran high 87 eting 7.7x/7.8x, i have yet to make a pass in weather cooler than 85*. da was like almost 3,000ft.

just seems low on power...i would point at the tune, you need a REAL tune, man.
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Old Sep 17, 2006 | 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by s346k
yes, all of the above. but the trap is what gets me. an ms4 cammed stick car should REALLY out-trap me, et just shows how well the car is set up.

in 94* weather with the humidity @ 100+% the car still ran high 87 eting 7.7x/7.8x, i have yet to make a pass in weather cooler than 85*. da was like almost 3,000ft.

just seems low on power...i would point at the tune, you need a REAL tune, man.
It did trap 90 mph shifting at about 6300. I would like to have it dyno tuned. The car has a bad problem of dying on initial start up after a heat soak. Sometimes it's so bad I have to clear flood the engine to get it to start.
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I'll go to the track again soon and post some more engine only times. I know the car can get much better than 8.0s. The other day I really didn't care what the car ran without nitrous. I rarely ever run it at the track without spray. The ***** addictive, once you use it you don't want to go without it.
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We just want to see some numbers out of the MS4 N/A is all. That at least shows how good the cam is working and with so little info/track results out there, it's getting lots of praise...

BTW, congrats!

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Old Sep 18, 2006 | 09:42 PM
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I am hoping for sub 7.5X with my same setup + Cam and tune and I am going with the MS3. Am I outta my mind?
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Originally Posted by kruthes1
I am hoping for sub 7.5X with my same setup + Cam and tune and I am going with the MS3. Am I outta my mind?
MS3 is a nice cam. It has prooven itself well out there and has some nice track results to show...

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Originally Posted by 02NITROUSLS1
Took my car to the track yesterday and got a 7.43 @ 97 mph with a 1.73 60 ft. on a 100 shot & ET streets. I was leaving the line at around 4000 rpm. I didnt want to go any higher since my car still has the 10 bolt. The car bogged off the line pretty bad. It was around 90 degrees here yesterday. My car is currently a cam only with 3.73 gears, pacesetter LT's ported throttle body & MAF. oh yeah 100 shot. I'm thinking a cut out, ASP, 410's, and more nitrous before the end of this year. Last year I ran my car with the same set up with a B1 cam instead of the MS4 in 50 degree weather and the car went 7.61 @ 92 with a 1.61 60 ft. I am VERY pleased with the power improvment with the MS4. Here is a video of a couple of runs I made during the day.

http://s55.photobucket.com/albums/g1...t=411video.flv
Great times! My car is tuned and its a heads and cam car and it ran 7.86@91.3 on motor with a 1.87 60' and 7.33@100 on the 100 shot on drag radials with a 1.79 60'. The spray times in sig are on et streets. So I would so to be a cam only car untuned with the 10-bolt your car runs goods. Props man!


BTW my car ran the same exact time on motor with the 10-bolt. Its got a 9" now!
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Old Sep 19, 2006 | 10:24 PM
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Thanks guys.. more track times coming soon.
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Old Sep 20, 2006 | 05:55 AM
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My MS4/PRC vette runs like a bat outta hell on the last 1/8th, but the first 1/8 seems duplicate of my old MTI C2 cam/Heads setup. I'll have N/A #'s in the next weekor two, but on a 100 shot ran 7.0's at over 100mph (first time to track on drag radials).

More seat time and you'll pull some good times
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Man, I wish F-bodies were as light as vettes.
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